Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Primitive Skills => Topic started by: Zuma on August 05, 2016, 10:00:26 pm
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Any one want to bring some dried clay
to my place sometime soon can pm me
if they want to fire it.
I need to fire these before I build any more.
I can do surface kiln or pit firing.
Zuma
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beautiful !!!!!!! In the museum at Top of the Rock ,You need to see the pottery. They even have primitive looking tea pots.
I love the pottery.
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That looks quality Zuma, be good to see how they come out post firing too. 8)
Ruddy.
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Your really getting me interested in the pottery Zuma. I might have to do a little more research on it really cool stuff as usual.
Bjrogg
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Thanks Dog :)
I love to see recovered ceramics from digs.
I was introduced to it by a good friend.
Dayton F Statts. RIP
Ruddy, Thanks I'll keep you-all posted.
If successful. >:D
BJ If there are any questions or ideas we
are sure to help you out. To bad your not closer.
You, I think would fit right in. ???
Zuma
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Thanks Zuma I'd really like to meet you guys sometime. Maybe I'll make it to Flint Ridge sometimes. It sure is nice sharing time and stories on this site.
Bjrogg
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Really pretty stuff you built there Don.
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Well, it must be because of the real pretty
James River mud you gifted me Tom???
Zuma
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Put it in the freezer until I get there.... >:D
I made a couple also and need to pit fire them. I can already see another addiction starting. I need enough pots to put all my points I make in.... ;D
Really nice pots you made Don!
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Thanks NC
It would be an honor if you would
make the journey to fire up with us.
With Letchworth, Flint Ridge and all
it may take a bit of time to nail down
the date. But we will make it happen.
But we should try to do it interim if a
firing is going to happen at House MT
in Oct. Mid Sept.???
Zuma
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A couple more :D
Zuma
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Nice Zuma. Are you using that pinched rim method for making them? When you fire them ABO do you start small fires all the way around them building up fire until it completely covers them?
Bjrogg
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Those are cool looking Don. Looking forward to seeing them when they come out.
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Nice Zuma. Are you using that pinched rim method for making them? When you fire them ABO do you start small fires all the way around them building up fire until it completely covers them?
Bjrogg
When we fired the pottery at House Mt we did it pretty much that way BJ.
I am trying a pit fire this time at home. I'll post some pics.
Thanks Eddie, I'll keep you posted.
Zuma
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The top bowl looks super. I have got to learn this .
Dog
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Thanks Dog
The weather has been messin with me.
Covering the pit for fear of rain. Then
not having the burn as hot as I want.
Oh well the lightining sent me running.
I hope it all pans out by morning.
Zuma
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Well the storm hooked right around me :)
Big time lightening and rain.
I had to much fuel in the pit and had to
remove some after uncovering the pit in the morning.
I lined the pit with fire wood. (bad idea)
The lack of air stifled the burn but sure blackened the pots.
I used a bed of hay in the bottom to lay the pots on.
I filled them with horse apples and a little straw.
I covered the pit with fire wood logs.
I then covered the logs with small to big branches
and lit er up.
Zuma
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more
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Âwesome! I like the neck vessel in the first pic a lot! What's the clay?
I'd probably not fire with clouds like these hovering in...
Cool to see your pit, thanks for the nice pics. Always love to see your pottery here.
Think I'll get a kilnload together by autumn, I hope.
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Thanks Jodo,
Here is what I wound up with--
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Sweet!
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Gotta love it Zuma. You're really giving me the bug.
Bjrogg
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those look amazing 8)
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Thanks gents :)
First pic is shell tempered
The other two are sand. Mason sand not creek sand.
I also was suprised to find other things as I dug. >:D
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They look excellent, nicely done Zuma 8).
Ruddy.
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Thanks Ruddy
I wish you could carve a dragon on one for me :laugh:
Zuma
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A few more trinkets for the pit. lol ;D
Zuma
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Splendid mask Zuma, and faithfully reproduced 8). Really hope that fires well.
(I like those Shaman spirit masks, I got a pic of one in a book of Native American art that I really like.)
Best of luck with that lot, interesting to see how comes out.
Ruddy.
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Thanks Ruddy :)
Any Chance you could post the mask you
have in the book? I'm looking for more to do.
thanks Zuma
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Hi Zuma,
Having trouble locating the book which i have somewhere in storage, but found it online and found a pic of the mask I mentioned after some searching. It is a carved Iroquois false face mask. ( I made a couple of inspired versions to ward off bad spirits, although of my own design, just as well as I read it can be seen as disrespectful of Iroquois culture/medicine, in air dry modelling clay quite some time ago :)) There is an interesting read on the Iroquois 'False Face Society' on wiki., from what I understand copying one is a big no no as they are seen as living spirits used for important good magic. Just discovered this myself so I thought I'd mention it.
Here's one of the book(Native American Art, Ketchum, William C) and a pic of the mask.
Ruddy.
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I am enjoying this post Zuma,I have been doing a little pottery lately. I tried fiber temper (Spanish moss) pit fired and turned out OK. Now i'm making a few bowls and if it ever dries out down here I'll fire it. Looks like you have this down I like the varieties of shapes and sizes .Keep showing us your craftiness and maybee it will rub off
Bone
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"just as well as I read it can be seen as disrespectful of Iroquois
culture/medicine,Just discovered this myself so I thought I'd mention it."
Yikes! :o The one I made is most likely Iroquois related.
I hope the tear on it's cheek will void the copy rights.
I built my house on a Indian camp site, so I don't need any bad mo-jo.
Thanks for the info Ruddy. I will dig into it. I can see why that
particular mask is memorable.
Thanks Rog, :)
Glad you like playing in the mud too.
Some photos would be great.
I recently did one with grass fiber but I fired it in the kiln
since I only had one pot ready. It's very delicate and came
out pretty nice and light weight. Err except for the dorky face. ???
But that's how they did them on the upper Delaware River.
Zuma
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Here's what I have been working on, different clays and tempers I might run them up to a freind and have him fire them. My yard is still a frog swamp
Easy on the hee bee gee bees, things are tough enough without that
Bone
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All you guys got the some really great stuff posted on here
Bjrogg
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Rog,
They are great. I love the SE incising / stamp :)
Let us know how things turn out.
Sorry about your yucky weather.
Hope all turns out ok.
BJ do we need to send you some clay
and a kick start >:D lol
Zuma
Oh I fired these little buggers in total
reduction, sand tempered.
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I've sure been thinking about it Zuma, but go a lot of coals in the fire right now. It sure looks like an interesting hobby
Bjrogg
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very good stuff and alot of inspiration!!