Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Shooting and Hunting => Topic started by: Tracker0721 on August 07, 2016, 10:49:07 am
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I'm in a mad dash to get my arrows ready and thought it'd be cool if we all share what our set up will be this year. Bow, arrows, quiver, knife, heck moccasins. Post it ladies and gents! I'll post up mine once I finish a couple more arrows.
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I'll be hunting with the bow I got from Simon in the Invitational Bow Trade. I haven't determined which arrows yet but it will either be sourwood shoot arrows, Hill cane arrows or poplar arrows. My hunting quiver is a GFA style I made from an old Selway bow quiver. My moccasins will be LL Bean 14" Maine hunting boots. I'll get some pics when I decide on the arrows.
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I don't know yet. Our season opens next weekend and I'm probably leaving for Alberta.Got my Work Visa Application. ::)
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This is a oregon white ash bow that I built about 20 years ago, 50lbs at 26" , the arrows are dowels that dad bought probably 20 years ago and they are fletched with turkey, I will put zwickey broadheads on and make sure they shoot good. The quiver is elk hide. I have been shooting this bow alot this year , it is the only shooter I have that is a selfbow in a hunting weight. It feels good to get arrow tuned to this bow again.
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I'm very impressed and admire those selfbow makers that have bows still flinging arrows after years of shooting......
DBar
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I'm still working on my hunting gear, but it will be a r/d Osage and gray dogwood shoot shaft arrows with stone points. I'll post some pictures when I'm finished
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OK here goes....The gear here is for an ambush type hunt.Blind or tree stand.Safety harness/Leafy suit/camo gloves/camo face mask/grunt,rattlers & doe bleat/latest favorite bow/black or fisher coonhide quiver & dogwood arrows/armguard shooting glove for bow hand/& my brain tan possibles bag.
I keep my clothes in a barrel with sage and golden rod plants 100% of the time.The clothes for a stalk type of hunt are different.Tighter fitting so to speak.Main concern is to break up my outline,but have shot a few just in regular flannel shirts and jeans too.The key is to sit still.
Photobucket for some reason is not transferring my pictures to this forum at this time.
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OK here's some pics.
(http://i920.photobucket.com/albums/ad41/Beadman1/DSCN1318_zpsuvvl97jb.jpg) (http://s920.photobucket.com/user/Beadman1/media/DSCN1318_zpsuvvl97jb.jpg.html)
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And of course here comes Beadman with his badass set ! That looks amazing .
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Excellent gear you got there Ed, but what are the kittens for? ??? ::)
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bait!
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Those are highly trained hunting kittens, old world technique, very effective...
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I'm not sure if it's bad ass or not but it works for me till something better comes along....lol.If a person wants to be serious about this hunting good gear is a must.I'm waiting to see someone post an all brain tan leather set up.That would be cool for sure.No need for scent covers with that set up.
Those little cats are my mouse extermination factors.I used to have a mouse problem here.No more!!!Over 2 dozen cats live here.Started with one momma cat 2 years ago.Heck of a mouse catcher herself teaching her kittens and their kittens etc.They got the rabbits disappeared too.They can be a pain though getting into things like Robins' flower pots and the garden.Gotta take the good with the bad in this case.
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My rig has been the same for a couple of years, osage static, 56@25", chundo arrows, woodsman broadheads, cat quiver.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v181/ekrewson/hunting%20stuff/static%20hunting%20rig_zpsvzg5agi9.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/ekrewson/media/hunting%20stuff/static%20hunting%20rig_zpsvzg5agi9.jpg.html)
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Mine is still a work in progress. This is what I'm planning on using so far. My HHB ironwood bow still not quite finished but close enough I could go to the woods now. Three red osier shafts one obsidian point, Two flint river all spine and wieght matched and my prototype mink quiver that I actually really like but could use a bit of refinement. Looking at Ed's I can see enough to keep Santa and my birthdays used up for a few years nice well thought out and used equipment Ed.
Bjrogg
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Eric....Looks deadly and useful for sure.
bjrogg....Like the primitive look man.More so than mine.I usually take at least 3 arrows with me.Using zwickey or stoss arrowheads though......shame .....shame.I read crookedarrow made his gilley suit out of burlap.That's cool too.My santa claus is me or the ups man.
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Thanks for the nice words Ed that means a lot to me from a guy who makes brain tanned hides and clothing
Bjrogg
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Here is mine, Yew bow 62 t-t 52@26 /Osage 64 t-t 50@26, 6 sour wood shafts trade points and also
6 maple footed shafts 200 Ace heads all the arrows that I am using this year come in a something over 600 grains, and lots of other stuff for the day pack. ;) :)
Pappy
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Some of the shafts and heads.
Pappy
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Looks good Pappy.Using the king and queen wood for hunting.Nice arrows too.
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Thanks, Yep, if fact that is their names, Osage is king /Yew is Queen. ;) :) The shafts turned out a little heaver than I like, I prefer 525 to 575 grain but I think these will work ok they came in closer to 650-675.
Pappy
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55# straight up 65" ntn osage bow I just finished up a few weeks back. POC arrows with single bevel Grizzly heads. I use a Cat quiver Mini quiver.
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Looking good Chris....I like those cat quivers too.Deadly combo there.That's some dark osage already.I've gotta try those grizzly points sometime.I bought so many other like zwickey and stos earlier I've go to use up yet.
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Good looking set up Pearl, that should get it done. :)
Pappy
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Thanks guys. I like a long, simple bow for hunting. No overlays, or any glue for that matter on this one. The bow is stained that color, it was electric yellow before.
Ed the Grizzly heads are nice to sharpen, I suppose that could be said for any single bevel. Make a burr from the beveled side and dust it off on the back side. Pretty simple to get sharp. I haven't shot a deer with them yet, same reason as you. I have Eskimos I really like and always use. This year I'm changing that.
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I use to use the Grizzly several years ago, that do a good job. Like most any good 2 bladed head, if you do your part they will do theirs. ;)
Pappy
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Nice looking gear guys.
Do you guys pay attention to the fletchings when you use single bevel points? Right vs. Left according to which side the bevel is on the point? Someone pointed that out to me at mojam, something I had never thought of before.
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I do, but I doubt it matters. Seems like one of those things overbearing glass guys would come up with because they get bored with their store bought gear :)
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He was a wheelie bow shooter. ::)
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Most don't know, they just repeat what they hear or read.
Think of it this way. On a double bevel head lets say your bevel wasn't even side to side, one was longer than that other. Bet it still flies perfectly.
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Just shoot em to see how they fly closes the door on that.
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Single bevels rotate as they pass through game, so if you mismatch your fletches and single bevels your arrows will have to stop rotating when they hit the animal and starts rotating the opposite direction as it passes through. That is the reason I have heard to match your fletches and bevels.
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Also what I heard bubbles, made sense to me
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Ever try twisting an arrow through a deer's body? I promise you my bow wont be doing any of that. It will rotate in flight, impact and stop rotating immediately, then push on straight through.
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Sorry, just repeating information I've heard. Here is my source:
From "why single bevel broadheads" by Ed ashby
During the last 25 years I've intensely studied broadhead
design, and how it affects a hunting arrow's terminal
performance in tissues; field testing hundreds of different
heads in real tissues, dissecting wound channels and looking at
results. It's taken me that long to fully comprehend the 'how
and why' of single-bevel broadhead performance, and the numerous
and remarkable advantages it offers the bowhunter. The most
obvious functional difference between single and double-beveled
broadheads is the rotation single-bevels induce as the broadhead
penetrates.
Everyone knows that arrows rotate in flight, because of the
effect of the fletching. Few, however, give arrow rotation any
thought beyond that. And why should they? When using a double-
beveled broadhead all arrow rotation stops at impact and, unless
the broadhead is deviated in some way by impact with a hard
tissue, such as bone, the arrow penetrates straight through an
animal without any rotation. Examination of entrance and exit
wounds, and the intervening wound channel, confirms this.
During flight the typical arrow makes one complete
revolution (360 degrees) in about 60 inches of travel. Several
times I've measured the rotational rate exhibited for one
specific single-bevel broadhead design; the Modified Grizzly.
It's the broadhead I use for most of my hunting. Its single-
bevel edges induce one complete revolution in just under 16" of
soft-tissue travel (through 'pure meat'). / end quote
As I pull my single bevel heads out of foam targets I can feel them rotate as I pull them out.
With slower self bows it probably doesn't make a huge difference during flight to mismatch your bevels and fletchings, I agree with that. But that doesn't change the fact that a single bevel wants to rotate a certain way when it enters an animal.
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I could see a slight possibility of this being a real consideration and certainly didn't put any research into having never shoot a metal broad head only stone, but I think it's probably way more important that arrow inters clean well tuned to the bow. No sideways flight. At least at speeds my bows shoot.
Bjrogg
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Hopefully we aren't muddying up this thread too bad.
Sooooooooooooooooooooo many variables not included in that excerpt. I should have kept my mouth shut and just kept my thoughts to myself. My apologies.
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I think it would be pretty cool to see someone test this in a block of clear ballistic gelatin, would be pretty obvious pretty fast on slow mo playback if the rotation mattered. Not debating the topic anymore, just saying it would be really cool to watch that experiment, lol.
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Yea I believe your right bubbles,or Ashby is so to speak.Sounds like he's watched the arrow fly on slow mo.The grizzly head is hard to beat.Having the reinforced center spine on them helps to keep the point from curling too when hitting bone with it's chisel point.I gave a stoss broadhead to an Amish once to use.He shot a compound of course.He showed me the broadhead later with a curled point from hitting bone.A stoss broadhead's spine is reinforced too but has a fine sharp point on it.I've seen ribs busted up through deer from good stone points though too.
Hunting hogs with grizzlies makes sense.
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Sorry for the hijack, just regurgitating what I thought was an accepted view on the single bevel idea. Now, I wanna see some more hunting rigs! I'll post mine when I get back from my travels.
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The hijack was probably my fault. Carry on
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Here's this years kit. Rawhide backed osage 62"ntn 50#@26". POC shafts with Ace broadheads. 1 poplar selfnock shaft with turkey feathers and a Bear greenie. A GFA style quiver i just made, that sweet knife Pappy made( i was lucky enuff to win at Elm Hall). Prolly gonna throw in a couple obsidian pointed arras as well. This is just the business end of my gear.
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This is what I carried while hunting in Colorado back in 2010. The PA Magazine in the pic has the article I wrote about making the bow I took in 2006 in the same area. I usually hunt light but have most of the bases covered.
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/PatBNC/ColoradoElkHunt2011078.jpg) (http://s5.photobucket.com/user/PatBNC/media/ColoradoElkHunt2011078.jpg.html)
This yer I'll be carrying the bow I got from Simon in the bow trade. I have arrows that shoot well from it but I may make a set just for it.
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/PatBNC/DSC00133_zpseg1nfobg.jpg) (http://s5.photobucket.com/user/PatBNC/media/DSC00133_zpseg1nfobg.jpg.html)
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I think I got that PA mag somewhere here Pat.Nice looking set up.