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Title: stoned elm
Post by: jamie on March 04, 2008, 09:34:59 am
heres another i finished up ths morning. elm again. really like this stuff. my favorite of the white woods. 64" ntn. 50@26. 1 1/4" wide 1/2" or so nocks. done with stone tools. bow had 1 1/2" of deflex in one tip and and 2 1/2" in the other so i steamed and bent the tips. not primitive , did it on the stove. bow has taken about a 1/2" of set since finishing. recovers though after being unstrung for the night. each end of the bow had a kink in it that gave the bow a lot of the original deflex (pics below). still some cambium on it . every now and then a piece cracks off and scares the bejesus out of me. i went with narrow tips on this one rather than the typical wide tips found on most woodland bows. found it didnt take that much more time to reduce em. hardest part of this bow was removing the bark, or actually the cambium. no finish yet. linen string. i broke the milkweed one i had made after 6 shots.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/coyotebow/primitive/stoned%20elm/pic001.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/coyotebow/primitive/stoned%20elm/pic003.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/coyotebow/primitive/stoned%20elm/pic004.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/coyotebow/primitive/stoned%20elm/pic005.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/coyotebow/primitive/stoned%20elm/pic006.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/coyotebow/primitive/stoned%20elm/pic008.jpg)
Title: Re: stoned elm
Post by: GregB on March 04, 2008, 09:37:54 am
Good looking bow Jamie, tiller looks good. I'd bet it's a good shooter! :)
Title: Re: stoned elm
Post by: Pappy on March 04, 2008, 09:41:34 am
Very nice jamie ,looks great,lots of work I know but you do it well.Tiller looks good to me. :)
    Pappy
Title: Re: stoned elm
Post by: Coo-wah-chobee on March 04, 2008, 09:53:06 am
Ya very cool bro'. Agree with ya cambium is tough with the stones. For that matter steel when its dry. Lookee like a good hunter and aint that whats it about ? ;)...........bob
Title: Re: stoned elm
Post by: DanaM on March 04, 2008, 10:25:36 am
Love it jamie, the full draw pic is good also. Now go put a shirt on this a family site :o
Title: Re: stoned elm
Post by: jamie on March 04, 2008, 10:32:00 am
thanks guys. i love these bows theres something about them that just does my soul good.

dana be happy i put my pants on ;D
Title: Re: stoned elm
Post by: cowboy on March 04, 2008, 10:52:46 am
Looks good, looks like Elm has some pretty grain in it. I can't tell it wasn't worked with all the latest steel tools ;D..
Title: Re: stoned elm
Post by: Gordon on March 04, 2008, 11:20:59 am
I don't think you could have done a better job with modern tools. That is impressive.
Title: Re: stoned elm
Post by: medicinewheel on March 04, 2008, 11:51:14 am

WOW!!!
Title: Re: stoned elm
Post by: Keenan on March 04, 2008, 12:34:45 pm
  Oh ya!!  Been waiting to see another one of your great stone bows. Nice profile and great curves Jamie. Looks like ya got a bead drawn on the house cat or something.  Keenan
Title: Re: stoned elm
Post by: Marc St Louis on March 04, 2008, 12:43:19 pm
Nice Jamie. Have you never heat treaded Elm? A nice hardwood fire burnt down to coals works great. You just reflex the bow a bit and suspend it belly down about a foot over the coals till it turns browns, takes about 5 minutes
Title: Re: stoned elm
Post by: AndrewS on March 04, 2008, 12:51:28 pm
Jamie i like your bow. Elm is good stuff.

...and I like your bicoloured socks ;D
Title: Re: stoned elm
Post by: Hillbilly on March 04, 2008, 02:28:40 pm
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What kind of elm is it?  Keenan, I was wondering myself if there was a cat lurking in the corner  ;D
Title: Re: stoned elm
Post by: OldBow on March 04, 2008, 02:30:58 pm
This bow is the quintessential example of what self bows are all about. Such a fine weapon needs to shine so I did so with PhotoShop ;)

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Title: Re: stoned elm
Post by: Justin Snyder on March 04, 2008, 02:40:38 pm
Nice work Jamie.  I need to finish a couple of stone bows I have started.  Justin
Title: Re: stoned elm
Post by: jamie on March 04, 2008, 03:27:05 pm
thanks everybody appreciate all the kind words. marc i thought about toasting this one. is it too late or is it never too late. no cats in the house. sent em down to pat and i think he ate em ;D

justin i been waiting to see that special project ;)
Title: Re: stoned elm
Post by: Marc St Louis on March 04, 2008, 03:37:35 pm
Not too late Jamie and you may find you can shorten the bow some without losing any reflex
Title: Re: stoned elm
Post by: Ryan_Gill_HuntPrimitive on March 04, 2008, 05:02:57 pm
i think it looks real good, excellent job with stone tools- Ryan
Title: Re: stoned elm
Post by: snedeker on March 04, 2008, 05:35:36 pm
I love that Jamie.   remarkably similar profile to a 63" rigid handled elm I'm finishing up (re-do of old one).  If I had it to do all over again I think I would cut not much else besides elm and black locust.

Dave
Title: Re: stoned elm
Post by: SimonUK on March 04, 2008, 06:46:00 pm
Absolutely brilliant to do that with stone. 
Title: Re: stoned elm
Post by: ricktrojanowski on March 04, 2008, 06:47:33 pm
That one is sweet,  I'll like to see it in person.  Stone no less. ;D
Title: Re: stoned elm
Post by: koan on March 04, 2008, 07:31:26 pm
Thats a sweet bow Jamie, great job on those flipped tips too....Brian

p.s....as soon as I figure out how to make stone tools...I wanna make a stoned bow ;)
Title: Re: stoned elm
Post by: Kegan on March 04, 2008, 07:36:57 pm
SWEEEEEEEEEEET! Now that's a meat maker :)! I think I knoew what I'll be voting for in the next BOM ;D.
Title: Re: stoned elm
Post by: Dingleberry on March 04, 2008, 07:44:23 pm
Excellent bow, Jamie.  ;D  I can't wait to try a stone-tool bow.
Title: Re: stoned elm
Post by: The Burnt Hill Archer on March 04, 2008, 07:50:30 pm
Masterfully executed sir! great work as always. funny, it dont looked stoned  ;)

Phil
Title: Re: stoned elm
Post by: jamie on March 04, 2008, 10:12:45 pm
thanks a lot guys

brian take a rock , smash it, stone tools are made ;D
Title: Re: stoned elm
Post by: Bishop on March 04, 2008, 10:29:20 pm
Jamie
is that made from a good ole American Elm tree or that a different species.
Bishop
Title: Re: stoned elm
Post by: NOMADIC PIRATE on March 04, 2008, 10:34:07 pm
can't beat the simple stuff, fine tiller,...but that pinky :o??
Title: Re: stoned elm
Post by: El Destructo on March 04, 2008, 10:43:11 pm
can't beat the simple stuff, fine tiller,...but that pinky :o??

Be nice thats Jamies Sights!! :o :o
Title: Re: stoned elm
Post by: venisonburger on March 05, 2008, 01:32:32 am
She's a keeper, nice bow
VB
Title: Re: stoned elm
Post by: sailordad on March 05, 2008, 01:46:22 am
that was made from only stone tools?

well i can say only one thing,DANG THAT IS SWEET DUDE!!

that is truly one heck of a bow.
Title: Re: stoned elm
Post by: jamie on March 05, 2008, 07:35:40 am
thanks fellas. this is slippery elm

manny , that was funny ;D
Title: Re: stoned elm
Post by: Woodland Roamer on March 05, 2008, 12:51:27 pm
Another great job Jamie! I gotta try a stone bow soon. Thanks for the inspiration.

Alan
Title: Re: stoned elm
Post by: Sidewinder on March 05, 2008, 03:11:04 pm
Jaime, You making a sweet looking bow like that with stone tools takes away all my excuses for not being able to do one with steel tools. Gives great confidence to those of us with less experience.  Danny
Title: Re: stoned elm
Post by: George Tsoukalas on March 05, 2008, 05:53:49 pm
jamie, awesome bow! That tiller is outstanding. Yes, we are all glad. :) Jawge
Title: Re: stoned elm
Post by: michbowguy on March 05, 2008, 06:00:27 pm
hey jamie, what is the difference between slippery elm and swamp elm?
both related to american elm but located more in swampy darker riverbottoms and such [around here anyway].
nice bow man.
jamie #2
Title: Re: stoned elm
Post by: jamie on March 05, 2008, 06:10:05 pm
thanks fellas

jamie american is a white elm i believe. the slippery is red. it has a darker heartwood.