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Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: DC on January 06, 2017, 03:11:35 pm

Title: New tool and a question
Post by: DC on January 06, 2017, 03:11:35 pm
I got this for Christmas. It's a quality tool as Lee Valley stuff is. It seems to cut very well, maybe too well. When I make a pass across the workpiece it wants to roll and dig in on the side that's away from me. It may just take some getting used to but it raised a question. I'm kind of ambidextrous. I'm right or left depending on the tool. Fine stuff left, heavy stuff right as a rule. Since the forward handle on this tool is offset a bit I'm wondering if I'm using it wrong handed. If you are a righthander, which handle would you hold in which hand? I'm calling the little knob the secondary handle. I hold it with the main handle in my left hand. It wouldn't be too big a deal to change the tool to "left handed" but I'd rather not mess with it if possible
Title: Re: New tool and a question
Post by: osage outlaw on January 06, 2017, 03:37:36 pm
I've got one without the extra knob.  I would hold the main handle in my right hand
Title: Re: New tool and a question
Post by: willie on January 06, 2017, 03:46:19 pm
Don

I bought one a few years back and really like them. I remember trying to decide if I wanted the fancy model with the extra handle, and read a review that said to just use the blade without any handles, so I passed on buying the knob, and tried it with and without the main handle. the main handle is lost somewhere......

replacement blades are pretty inexpensive for the job they do, I think
Title: Re: New tool and a question
Post by: DC on January 06, 2017, 03:57:35 pm
I'm beginning to think I should have just ordered the replacement blade :(
Title: Re: New tool and a question
Post by: Pat B on January 06, 2017, 04:14:32 pm
That's a Shinto rasp I think. I got one in a trade like that with a spare blade. I couldn't get used to the handle configuration so I traded that and kept the spare blade. I like it. It removes lots of wood but because of it's width it is easy to control.
Title: Re: New tool and a question
Post by: bjrogg on January 06, 2017, 04:18:07 pm
I don't have one DC, but for what it's worth I'm right handed and just looking at it I'd probably do like Clint and grab ahold of the big handle with my right hand.
Bjrogg
Title: Re: New tool and a question
Post by: Bob Barnes on January 06, 2017, 04:21:07 pm
it is reversible and has smaller teeth on one side... which makes it easier to control.  It is a great tool though.
Title: Re: New tool and a question
Post by: osage outlaw on January 06, 2017, 04:44:33 pm
You have to keep it flat on the wood.  If you get it angled to one side or the other it will cut in and gouge it.
Title: Re: New tool and a question
Post by: willie on January 06, 2017, 05:34:11 pm
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If you get it angled to one side or the other it will cut in and gouge it.

I suppose than one could run the corner against a rock, and knock down the kerf on that very outside edge.

I find that most of my hand tools need some sort of adjustment tuning, to be useful for bowmaking
Title: Re: New tool and a question
Post by: osage outlaw on January 06, 2017, 05:37:00 pm
I wouldn't do that.  I'd rather have a sharp tool and just make sure to hold it level with the wood.
Title: Re: New tool and a question
Post by: willie on January 06, 2017, 05:46:29 pm
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I wouldn't do that.  I'd rather have a sharp tool


Hope I did not appear to advocate dulling the whole tool, just the "trippiness" of the corner
Title: Re: New tool and a question
Post by: bushboy on January 06, 2017, 06:05:22 pm
Shinto's just like the name implies,love them!
Title: Re: New tool and a question
Post by: DC on January 06, 2017, 07:11:14 pm
I love the way it cuts. I fitted a regular file handle to it a it's a great tool. It just seems that having the handles a couple of inches away from the cutting surface makes it wobbly. I'm thinking I'll return it and get two blades in exchange.
Title: Re: New tool and a question
Post by: Stick Bender on January 06, 2017, 08:54:45 pm
I just ordered a 11 in one from wood craft  that's set up in the standard configuration with a regular rasp handle the one you have would seem strange to me , I just want to use it like a regular rasp or file .
Title: Re: New tool and a question
Post by: RBLusthaus on January 06, 2017, 11:01:15 pm
I have that one also.  I don't use the second handle.  I also don't use the fine side - only the course.  My second hand holds the edges or the tip when using.  That second handle is no good, IMHO.  If I bought again, I'd  get without the second handle.  It just gets in my way. 
Russ.
Title: Re: New tool and a question
Post by: Selfbowman on January 07, 2017, 03:37:59 am
What I have found to work real well is a farriers rasp cut down with a hand grinder to about 6-8 inches in length. Held in both hands and pulled against the limb. You get a 6-8 inch straight edge that way. Arvin
Title: Re: New tool and a question
Post by: mikekeswick on January 07, 2017, 03:40:30 am
I'd second returning it and getting a standard one. I've had a bout 5 Shinto's now and everyone has now gone to the toolmaker in the sky. They don't last too long but they are good while they last.
Title: Re: New tool and a question
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on January 07, 2017, 08:56:43 am
I have wore through at least a half dozen of them. They are far and away my go-to tool until its time to grab a scraper. I use the basic straight handle version, not the two-handed version.
Title: Re: New tool and a question
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on January 07, 2017, 08:58:15 am
And, I agree with Mike. They don't last for years like a Nicholson, but a Nicholson wont work as hard either. I can usually get 15 plus bows made before I notice it dulling.
Title: Re: New tool and a question
Post by: hunterbob on January 07, 2017, 11:02:16 am
I really like mine. I use it to get to a good floor tiller and then switch to a scrapper
Title: Re: New tool and a question
Post by: DuBois on January 07, 2017, 12:18:07 pm
Anybody got one they DON'T want? I would love to try one.
Title: Re: New tool and a question
Post by: willie on January 07, 2017, 12:59:01 pm
does the 15 dollar one with the plain handle have teeth on both sides? coarse and fine?
Title: Re: New tool and a question
Post by: High-Desert on January 07, 2017, 03:33:09 pm
Do these require running a brass brush to clean out like a rasp? Not that's it's a big deal, Just curious.

Eric
Title: Re: New tool and a question
Post by: osage outlaw on January 07, 2017, 03:38:13 pm
They don't clog up near as much as a regular rasp does.  They can get built up with shavings a little but a tap on the edge of your work bench knocks them out.
Title: Re: New tool and a question
Post by: DC on January 08, 2017, 01:05:19 pm
I was practising on a piece of OS and little clogs build up where the blades come together. They didn't seem to affect the cutting but I had to use a dental pick to get them out to send it back. My brass brush wouldn't touch them. The bristles on the brush are a bit long though
Title: Re: New tool and a question
Post by: Stick Bender on January 13, 2017, 07:46:43 am
I got the 11 in. Wood craft one delevered last night it is real nice quality and at 11 in. Seems to be real controllable , the bows im working on now are to far a long to try it on a bow ,but on scrap works nice.