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Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: upstatenybowyer on January 08, 2017, 03:02:53 pm

Title: Small and short osage bow
Post by: upstatenybowyer on January 08, 2017, 03:02:53 pm
Stickbender, couldn't help the title  ;D

This one is also for a friend's son, only this kid is small for his age. Anyway, it's...

35# at 26"
51" ntn
cherry bark backing
padauk overlays and strike shield inlay (first attempt at an inlay)

Not sure how I feel about the tiller, feel free to let me know what you think. It does shoot pretty fast for a small and short bow.
Title: Re: Small and short osage bow
Post by: upstatenybowyer on January 08, 2017, 03:03:39 pm
and some more
Title: Re: Small and short osage bow
Post by: selfbow joe on January 08, 2017, 03:05:25 pm
Very nice!
Title: Re: Small and short osage bow
Post by: RyanY on January 08, 2017, 05:20:16 pm
I like the cherry back! Both limbs look like they have a nice even arc but the lower has more bend than the upper probably indicating that the upper limb is stronger. I'd like to see a full draw with the bow drawn upside down though.
Title: Re: Small and short osage bow
Post by: loon on January 08, 2017, 05:26:53 pm
Wow! Looks like a lot of bend out of that one. It looks like the low collapsed wrist grip also affects the bend of the limbs. Looks like a common tiller of Korean bows, where the lower limb bends more. I think this makes the arrow go up more, making it easier to hit the 145m targets? (though the arrow might fly nose down. I think Gao Ying also said, a collapsed or low wrist makes the arrow go further up...). And this is how I like my bows, with a lot of bend and draw length out of a short bow :p though long ones are also fun.

synthetic... just to demonstrate that bend
(https://i.imgur.com/YNX5GA4.jpg)

sinew and horn bow
(https://i.imgur.com/koceQsG.jpg)
Title: Re: Small and short osage bow
Post by: upstatenybowyer on January 08, 2017, 05:42:53 pm
Thanks for the comments gentleman. The bottom definitely is bending a little more. This is because I left the area thicker around a side knot high up on the upper limb. I cleaned out the knot, plugged w/ osage and wrapped in sinew.

Loon, thanks for the insight into Korean shooting and bowyery. Never knew that!
Title: Re: Small and short osage bow
Post by: MulchMaker on January 08, 2017, 10:17:00 pm
Great little bow. I was  curious what was your brace height?
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Post by: Stringman on January 08, 2017, 10:27:43 pm
Nice title. ;) that's a lot of bend!
Title: Re: Small and short osage bow
Post by: Green Mountain Man on January 08, 2017, 10:30:23 pm
Damn son,,,,you even work? :)
Your one busy bowyer
Title: Re: Small and short osage bow
Post by: upstatenybowyer on January 08, 2017, 10:41:03 pm
Great little bow. I was  curious what was your brace height?

Brace height is a fist and a thumb on this one.
Title: Re: Small and short osage bow
Post by: Dictionary on January 09, 2017, 07:33:58 pm
I like the tiller on this one
Title: Re: Small and short osage bow
Post by: Redhand on January 09, 2017, 08:12:37 pm
Nice shorty. It don't take much Osage to make a bow. I have on in works, it's 50 inches ntn. It sit 43#@24" right now.  I'm trying to reach 25" draw and still have a decent weight. These short bows are a little tricky to tiller.  You have a good bend on that one. Great job!
Title: Re: Small and short osage bow
Post by: upstatenybowyer on January 09, 2017, 08:23:28 pm
Thanks Red. I agree that the shorter bows can be tough to tiller. Way less room for mistakes. Good luck w/ yours!
Title: Re: Small and short osage bow
Post by: mikekeswick on January 10, 2017, 04:10:41 am
Yes lower limb is bending too much. You could have taken a fair bit of stress off them by making the handle bend more.
Loon - those bows are out of tiller! Excessive bend in one limb is simply showing that it is under more strain eg. - not in balance. Those lower limbs will take more set and the bow will become unbalanced. Regardless of grip type the mechanics of holding/pulling the string higher than center means that the lower limb must be stronger (slightly) than the upper. It's like putting a fat kid on one end and a skinny kid on the other end of a see-saw. ;)
Title: Re: Small and short osage bow
Post by: Dakota Kid on January 10, 2017, 04:45:32 am
Does that mean the OP's bow would have a better tiller if flipped upside down, then?