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Title: Watch pot it never boils
Post by: bjrogg on March 18, 2017, 10:20:44 am
But if you don't watch it bad things can happen. I was multitasking yesterday. Doing my real job but thought I could keep close enough to steam the second tip on the Elm stave Pnewton gave me. I looked from a little ways away and it looked kinda blue for steam. Sure enough pot ran empty. If I'm gonna get a bow from this one it'll be a bendy handle now.
Bjrogg
Sorry Paul
Title: Re: Watch pot it never boils
Post by: BowEd on March 18, 2017, 10:26:57 am
That sucks bjrogg.Bad feeling seeing that blue color.I do the same thing over here trying to get more than one thing going at a time.I've seen it happen on a build-a-long video once too.Same outcome.Lucky enough length was there for a bow yet.
What kind of elm is it?
Title: Re: Watch pot it never boils
Post by: bjrogg on March 18, 2017, 10:48:21 am
Yea Ed I was keeping an eye on the clock to. Never had the pot go dry that quick. Oh well could have been a lot worse. My brothers wouldn't have been very happy if I'd have burned the farm shop down.lol. I'm really not sure what kinda of Elm this is. Paul gave it to me last summer. I think American Elm is what grows here where I live. Paul's not very far from me. It might be something different though cause around here they only get about 6" maybe 8" diameter and the Dutch Elm disease gets them. I have noticed when I drive west of me still some big Elm. They might be a different subspecies. It sure seems softer than the dead standing ones we cut for firewood. That stuff is like cutting glass.
Bjrogg
Title: Re: Watch pot it never boils
Post by: BowEd on March 18, 2017, 10:57:06 am
I'd say that type hardness drying is a good sign for your elm there.I burn red elm in the stove here too.Mostly from dead snags standing.Seems to hand split easier then too.Fresh cut this red elm here is not too good really in my experience for self bows although friends here use it for a core when laminating glass bows together.
Title: Re: Watch pot it never boils
Post by: upstatenybowyer on March 18, 2017, 12:39:30 pm
You're not alone bj. I've done it more than once.
Title: Re: Watch pot it never boils
Post by: bjrogg on March 18, 2017, 12:43:53 pm
Guess I'm in some pretty good company then upstate
Bjrogg
Title: Re: Watch pot it never boils
Post by: Stick Bender on March 18, 2017, 12:57:39 pm
A bendy handle elm sounds like a nice bow Im not so good at multi tasking ether ! Hope it works out
Title: Re: Watch pot it never boils
Post by: bradsmith2010 on March 18, 2017, 01:04:47 pm
I have never done that,, ;)
Title: Re: Watch pot it never boils
Post by: bjrogg on March 18, 2017, 01:23:19 pm
I was pretty sure you didn't Brad ;)
Stick bender, I shortened it and cut the handle off so I'm not giving up on it yet. I haven't built a bendy handle or a Elm yet so I'll have to give it a go.
Bjrogg
Title: Re: Watch pot it never boils
Post by: GlisGlis on March 18, 2017, 01:41:43 pm
you are in good company BJ  (=)
I made almost the same with a microwave test no more than a week ago
turned a piece of BL in pure charcoal and a fog of smoke

go for bendy handle or maybe make a rigid straight burned lever tips  >:D
Title: Re: Watch pot it never boils
Post by: Stixnstones on March 18, 2017, 02:37:57 pm
been there... >:(
Title: Re: Watch pot it never boils
Post by: Stick Bender on March 18, 2017, 04:25:47 pm
BJ building those bendys are a lot of fun to build but if you need any help with it that guy that posted above you with the initial B is a real exspert at making bendys I'm sure he would be more then happy to help you.  (S
Title: Re: Watch pot it never boils
Post by: bjrogg on March 18, 2017, 04:36:05 pm
Thanks for the tip and encouragement Stick, I've wanted one and this looks like a good opportunity. I'm steaming the third tip now.lol.
I know I've seen some nice ones from that guy. :OK
Bjrogg
Title: Re: Watch pot it never boils
Post by: DC on March 18, 2017, 04:39:01 pm
That's too dark ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Watch pot it never boils
Post by: PNewton on March 19, 2017, 12:32:54 am
That's a bummer BJ. I'm sure you will make a save on it tho. I think it is american elm.
Title: Re: Watch pot it never boils
Post by: bjrogg on March 19, 2017, 08:00:18 am
Paul I'm gonna try. So far I haven't done so good with that beautiful stave you gave me. I was sure I'd get two bows from it. Had first one tear a big chunk out of belly with draw knife and now this. I think this one just wants to be a bendy handle so hopefully it'll cooperate with me. :BB
Bjrogg
Title: Re: Watch pot it never boils
Post by: Aaron H on March 19, 2017, 09:14:17 am
Now that's a deep temper  :D
Title: Re: Watch pot it never boils
Post by: simson on March 19, 2017, 01:42:45 pm
whoo, looks a bit like dark chocolate. I bet is has a bitter sweet smell!
Title: Re: Watch pot it never boils
Post by: JW_Halverson on March 19, 2017, 01:53:55 pm
Not the smokin' hot tips you are looking for...
Title: Re: Watch pot it never boils
Post by: bjrogg on March 19, 2017, 02:14:56 pm
Not the smokin' hot tips you are looking for...
JW always gotta love your wit ad humor. That is a understatement
Yup Aaron and Simson the third tip on this bow turned out a lot better.lol.
Bjrogg
Title: Re: Watch pot it never boils
Post by: JW_Halverson on March 19, 2017, 03:37:07 pm
Not the smokin' hot tips you are looking for...
JW always gotta love your wit ad humor. That is a understatement
Yup Aaron and Simson the third tip on this bow turned out a lot better.lol.
Bjrogg

Often you have to chose to either laugh or cry.  I would rather laugh when I can over bows and the like. There are enough other good reasons for tears.
Title: Re: Watch pot it never boils
Post by: DuBois on March 20, 2017, 12:20:54 am
Well, I got no room to judge. I'm still in the garage after my last mishap. Nobody hurt and house still standing/ it's a good day!
Title: Re: Watch pot it never boils
Post by: Bob W. on March 20, 2017, 10:18:30 am
I ruined a black locust selfbow that was just about done when I ran out of water steaming the handle to align the tips a little better, I should have left it alone but I was to anal! Once the water evaporates it doesn't take long to scorch the wood. Threw it out and and started a new one, easy fix!
Title: Re: Watch pot it never boils
Post by: bjrogg on March 20, 2017, 10:32:17 am
Well I can see I'm in a lot of good company guys. Yes Bob I was really caught off guard how fast it went up in smoke. It went from steam to smoke in very short order.
Bjrogg