Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: Aaron H on March 19, 2017, 09:24:25 am
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Say you got some deer back sinew from a processor and by the time you got it, it was already dried, along with some fat that was still attached. How do you go about cleaning it and degreasing it if your plan is to back a bow with it?
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Like most say I guess.Some soaking and dawn dish washing soap.Then left to dry flat again before using it.
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I've never done it like that always just did my own. I would think you could rehydrate. Then scrap off clean. I think some guys even use soap and rewash multiple times. Maybe someone else will jump in here
Bjrogg
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Just before I begin to add sinew to a bow I wash it in Dawn dish soap, like Ed suggested, rinse it well then degrease the bows back by washing it with Dawn dish soap and rinse with boiling water. I wash the sinew not only to degrease but also to rehydrate if first before adding it to the bow. By wetting the wood I think it allows the glue a vehicle to help it get into the wood with the first sizing.
Use warm water to rinse the sinew but boiling water for the bow back.
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So you're saying that when you are rehydrating the sinew in preparation for the hide glue, you have dawn dish soap in the water?
Sorry if this seems like a basic sinew question.
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He rinses it well.
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I have never rinsed my sinew with soap , but I am going to try that next time,, :NN
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I'll take the sinew I'm going to use and add Dawn and work it in my hand then rinse it in warm water. I scrub the bow back with Dawn anf rinse with boiling water. Since I started doing this I haven't had the sinew lift anywhere on the bow. Before doing this I had sections od sinew "pop" up in a solid sheet. It may be over kill but the proof is in the pudding.
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Ok, I have just never used back sinew, it seems much more greasy than leg sinew.
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I believe that's a good idea to wet the bows back first before sizing and sinewing Pat B.Makes sense to me.Brings the nap up of the wood so to speak after wiping excess water off.
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Yea Aaron it's that darn tallow.Dawn will get rid of it.
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I agree as all above. Sometimes I will even pull apart all back sinew soak them in water then wash them with dawn dish soap and rinse them in very warm water. After I rinse them I will come them out and let them dry out.
Your right though Aaron back sinew is a lot more greasy than leg sinew. I like to try and save back sinew for wrapping instead of backing bows.
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Thanks everyone
Marlen, I have a lot of back sinew at the moment and it's much easier to break down than leg sinew. :OK
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I try to use back sinew for wrappings or strings, because of the grease, and in my experiences I can get a smoother backing with leg sinew.
I've heard of guys using a bit of lye in the water, but I've never tried it. I do like PatB, I process it all, and then wash my bundles in dish soap
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I hear you Aaron it is easier to pull apart than leg sinew. I have back bows with back sinew when I didn't have enough leg sinew. I have noticed back sinew needs to soak longer than leg sinew to get it to lay down smooth. I let them soak over night that usually does the trick for me.
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I'm liking this thread. We are butchering a beef and I'm saving the back sinew and its really fatty, so this info is on point for me. :OK
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Yep, I process the sinew and then I wash the back just like Pat said, then I wash all the sinew in bundles pre sorted for amount and length that I also separate for each limb on separate boards after washed and rinsed.
One thing I have started doing is getting a pot of hot water by my glue pot and I dip each bundle in the hot water and ring it out good before it goes in the glue. I think it helps to warm up the wet sinew before hitting the glue and helps keep the glue pot from cooling off too quick. After a few bundles of cold wet stuff it was loosing heat quickly.
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I used back sinew on 2 bows and really like how it turned out. I get a lot smoother application with back sinew then leg sinew.
LeightonM, On my last 2 sinew backed bows I use cow leg sinew and I liked it better than any other I've used. I got it already cleaned and shredded so I liked that part best of all.
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If taken to the same diameter leg is softer than back.
To degrease acetone is the business ;) but I guess any strong enough alkali will do the job.
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Makes sense, has anyone tried using acetone on sinew?
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Charles Grayson recommended acetone. You don't need to mess with toxic solvents and worry about exposure and discarding it. Just use the strong soap.
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Sounds good, thanks guys