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Main Discussion Area => Around the Campfire => Topic started by: JEB on April 05, 2017, 10:05:42 am

Title: Primitive hunting?
Post by: JEB on April 05, 2017, 10:05:42 am
Anyone hunt  (SH) with their stone points :-D?

Or anyone else hunt primitive, self bows, self made arrows and stone points?
Title: Re: Primitive hunting?
Post by: Ed Brooks on April 05, 2017, 10:08:53 am
There are a lot of successful self bow hunters on here. I hunt with a self bow and stone points. However, I'm still in line for my 1st kill  :( Ed 
Title: Re: Primitive hunting?
Post by: osage outlaw on April 05, 2017, 11:45:26 am
My first selfbow kill was with a stone point that Tracy made.  The arrows were hill cane and the bow was one I made out of osage.  It didn't even know it had been shot.  It kept on walking a short ways up the hill and then started to get wobbly.  It tried to run but didn't make it to far. 

(http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r55/clintanders/Hunting%20Indiana%20Buildalong/SDC15862b.jpg)


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Title: Re: Primitive hunting?
Post by: JEB on April 05, 2017, 01:49:19 pm
taken a doe with one of my one points but yet to take a deer with my self bow and stone points.
Title: Re: Primitive hunting?
Post by: bjrogg on April 05, 2017, 02:01:23 pm
Jeb I Feel some good karma flowing your way. This could be the year.

Clint that's a nice Buck and looks like you put that stone point right where it's supposed to go.
Bjrogg
Title: Re: Primitive hunting?
Post by: mullet on April 05, 2017, 03:04:51 pm
I've taken an Osceola Turkey, and a few hogs with stone points.
Title: Re: Primitive hunting?
Post by: Pat B on April 05, 2017, 03:55:57 pm
I've hunted exclusively with stone tipped or trade point tipped cane or hardwood shoot arrows and self or sinew backed bows for quite a few years now but, like Ed haven't taken any game...except a squirrel or 2.
Title: Re: Primitive hunting?
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on April 05, 2017, 04:22:35 pm
I hunt with wood bows and various arrows from turned parallel shafts to cane and boo, but not stone points. I stick with steel.
Title: Re: Primitive hunting?
Post by: Danzn Bar on April 05, 2017, 07:05:18 pm
Was lucky enough to take a nice old doe with self made gear, osage mollie, river cane arrows and a knapped Ky blue point (TRACY point) from the ground.  I now use the same type of equipment but with trade points. 
DBar
Title: Re: Primitive hunting?
Post by: aaron on April 05, 2017, 07:05:33 pm
Yep. I have taken a blacktail deer with a stone point.
Title: Re: Primitive hunting?
Post by: Marc St Louis on April 05, 2017, 07:07:52 pm
It's the only thing I use
Title: Re: Primitive hunting?
Post by: Outbackbob48 on April 05, 2017, 07:14:14 pm
I was lucky enough to kill a BBuck with a osage bow a cane arrow and one of my own knapped points, missed a few also   (SH).  Bob
Title: Re: Primitive hunting?
Post by: Pappy on April 06, 2017, 04:13:26 am
I have killed 2 with stone points and Cain arrows and self bow of course but many with trade points / self bow with sourwood shafts.  :) Self bows are all I hunt with but vary on the shafts and heads from time to time. :) I like to hunt with what I make and don't Flint nap anymore. ;)
 Pappy
Title: Re: Primitive hunting?
Post by: Ballasted_Bowyer on April 07, 2017, 02:34:55 am
I took a fish with a homemade laminated wood longbow. Maple and Purple Heart limbs. I didn't have a fishing arrow with me so I tied a hook to a target point.
Title: Re: Primitive hunting?
Post by: JEB on April 07, 2017, 07:27:04 am
I guess my curiosity was more towards knappers than bowyers. I figure most self bowyers hunted primitive but never thought that most knappers don't.   At last weekends spring knap in we had a fair amount of knappers  there and some really good ones.  I asked many if they hunted with their points and very few responded that they didn't hunt at all.

I guess knappers make points and blades for the love of the art of doing it.

Title: Re: Primitive hunting?
Post by: BowEd on April 07, 2017, 09:23:08 am
Jeb...A natural component wooden self or composite bow is the only thing I bow hunt with.Never owned or shot a compound.Arrows too/self nocks only.Never use plastic nocks.Use FF string that I make and metal broadheads though.A dozen deer shot but no turkey yet.Many rabbits and squirrels though.Got a friend who got himself a moose with a hickory self bow.Bear too.I did nail a big doe with a good shot with a stone point once but never found her.That can happen with metal too.
You'll find probably the same ratio of hunters to bow makers as knappers to users of their points too.It's the love of making a bow and watching that arrow mystically fly to the target.
Title: Re: Primitive hunting?
Post by: Parnell on April 07, 2017, 09:31:00 am
You raise a good question.  I don't think many of the knappers I've seen at knapp-ins hunt their points.

It's crossed my mind over the years just how few people there are that have put all the ingredients together their self.

1.  Bow
2.  String
3.  Arrow
4.  Stone Point
5.  Meat

I'm on #5.
Title: Re: Primitive hunting?
Post by: bjrogg on April 07, 2017, 09:46:20 am
Jeb I could be wrong but I suspect when Primitive cultures became organized many of their knappers probably specialized at make points and tools, others bows and arrows and still others hunting. I could be wrong but I suspect very few did everything. This is purely speculation on my part though. I think our luxury of having a steady food supply allows us to do what we please. I set my goals of hunting with equipment I made because I enjoy the challenge and I'm not going to starve if I'm not successful.lol. I hunted with my stone points but when I actually shot my buck I was on the ground not expecting to get a 10yard shot. I had one of my hand made arrows with a steel point notched when a nice 4 point walked past me giving me a perfect quartering away shot. I was totally thrilled but part of me was disappointed I didn't use my stone point. I think Ryan Gills had a very good article about stone points in my new Primitive Archer Magazine. I agree with everything he said in that article, I fact I agree with pretty much everything I've ever seen him put in print. I think he has this stuff figured out about as good as anyone.
Bjrogg
Title: Re: Primitive hunting?
Post by: Parnell on April 07, 2017, 10:28:04 am
Yeah, I'd agree.  Ryan has really put in the time and work.  Nice guy, too.
Title: Re: Primitive hunting?
Post by: bubby on April 07, 2017, 02:46:53 pm
You raise a good question.  I don't think many of the knappers I've seen at knapp-ins hunt their points.

It's crossed my mind over the years just how few people there are that have put all the ingredients together their self.

1.  Bow
2.  String
3.  Arrow
4.  Stone Point
5.  Meat

I'm on #5.


So am i, sooo am i😉
Title: Re: Primitive hunting?
Post by: JEB on April 07, 2017, 11:39:36 pm
Two winters ago we brought Ryan up as our guest speaker for the Michigan Traditional Bow Hunters banquet.  He did an outstanding job and was well received.

Just yesterday a friend ran into someone who noticed his traditional archery  jacket. She questioned him about the club and then mentioned that she and her husband are in the bow string making, arrow building business and sell to a few major archery businesses. 

Neither own a bow are have ever shot a bow.  They are making arrows and making strings for a living.  Makes you wonder how that supper table talk went when they decided, lets make bow string and arrows for a living,lol