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Main Discussion Area => Primitive Skills => Topic started by: Parnell on April 27, 2017, 01:38:55 pm

Title: Cabbage Palm Quiver and Cane Arrows
Post by: Parnell on April 27, 2017, 01:38:55 pm
I've been wanting to do this for sometime and I've quite procrastinating.  It's not finished but the toughest part of getting the base of the quiver woven together is done.  I'm working on just twisting more cordage from the spears and filling in the body.

I'll post pictures as I go.  He are some from the other day...

Feel free to ask questions.
Title: Re: Palmetto Quiver and Cane Arrows
Post by: Pat B on April 27, 2017, 01:43:31 pm
Is that sawtooth palmetto, Steve? The new fronds from the cabbage palm is good too. I guess any of the palms, Royal, coconut and other also can be used.
 Looking forward to seeing the finished products and seeing Angie and you soon.
Title: Re: Palmetto Quiver and Cane Arrows
Post by: Parnell on April 27, 2017, 01:45:48 pm
I added a fifth rib - gotta be odd for the "over and under" of weaving and then got started.  I used the fine hairlike threads (I call it silk) from the fronds to make a string to tie the ribs together to start.  I'll get better pictures of that.

All I'm doing is pulling the strips off the fronds, doubling them up and twisting them together to make cordage.  As this is my first run I'm not being very slow about it and I'm sure I could make it cleaner.  One mature frond yields about 15 feet of twisted cord.  The coolest thing about this is I should be able to complete the whole process cutting just a few fronds from the single plant and no outside material.
Talk about useful plants!

I've got to make a tropical hut for kicks out of bamboo and palmetto/palm that I just cut in my neighborhood, sometime.  Anyhow...more to come.
Title: Re: Palmetto Quiver and Cane Arrows
Post by: Parnell on April 27, 2017, 02:37:41 pm
Pitch and cane shafts.  These are coming along.  I've started 3 feather fletching the other evening.  I'll get some updated pictures this evening.

Pat, I figure it's saw palmetto but they are really tall...about 8 foot and not bunched.  They have grown wild, I didn't put them in.
Title: Re: Palmetto Quiver and Cane Arrows
Post by: Parnell on April 27, 2017, 02:39:17 pm
Post more progress later...
Title: Re: Palmetto Quiver and Cane Arrows
Post by: mullet on April 27, 2017, 02:59:47 pm
That's Cabbage Palm, Pat.
Title: Re: Palmetto Quiver and Cane Arrows
Post by: Parnell on April 27, 2017, 06:36:29 pm
You are right Eddie.  I was looking at some older ones and now get how they develop their trunk like base slowly.  I'll have to change my title.
Title: Re: Cabbage Palm Quiver and Cane Arrows
Post by: Parnell on April 27, 2017, 06:44:09 pm
Progress...
Title: Re: Cabbage Palm Quiver and Cane Arrows
Post by: BowEd on April 27, 2017, 08:35:39 pm
Cool....Now that's multi tasking camolauge I'd say!!!!
Title: Re: Cabbage Palm Quiver and Cane Arrows
Post by: Adam on April 27, 2017, 09:39:15 pm
Very neat. Thanks for posting.
Title: Re: Cabbage Palm Quiver and Cane Arrows
Post by: osage outlaw on April 27, 2017, 10:54:38 pm
Very cool project Parnell.
Title: Re: Cabbage Palm Quiver and Cane Arrows
Post by: GlisGlis on April 28, 2017, 03:10:55 am
cool project Parnell
I'm following
I tried something similar (basket made from similar leaves) and found that when dried the leaves shrink alot and the structure become a little loose
Title: Re: Cabbage Palm Quiver and Cane Arrows
Post by: chamookman on April 28, 2017, 04:31:37 am
Way Cool ! Bob
Title: Re: Cabbage Palm Quiver and Cane Arrows
Post by: Parnell on April 28, 2017, 07:49:08 am
cool project Parnell
I'm following
I tried something similar (basket made from similar leaves) and found that when dried the leaves shrink alot and the structure become a little loose

I'm noticing that the material works easiest slightly dried out.  Not green not dry.  Just cutting it and giving it 24 hours is working well for me.  It loses a lot of water quickly.  My question is about how well it will hold up when totally dried out.  Might have to spray it with something but don't really want to.

Anybody have any bright ideas on something that it could be sprayed with to help maintain structure with out using a heavy synthetic?
Title: Re: Cabbage Palm Quiver and Cane Arrows
Post by: GlisGlis on April 28, 2017, 09:15:17 am
once dried is pretty durable but I think it's not worth the hassle of coating it
I'd use it until it wear out than do another one
Title: Re: Cabbage Palm Quiver and Cane Arrows
Post by: Pat B on April 28, 2017, 09:18:28 am
Steve, Roger makes the coiled baskets with palm doesn't he. He doesn't seal them. I think just use it like GlisGlis suggested. I bet it will last you years.
Title: Re: Cabbage Palm Quiver and Cane Arrows
Post by: Parnell on April 28, 2017, 10:06:40 am
He does Pat.  Yeah, I'm just going to leave it.  I'll have it about filled in tonight, most likely.  I'm considering just keeping on with the palm cordage to act as the strap somehow...Doubling it over and tying it in...I'll figure it out!
Title: Re: Cabbage Palm Quiver and Cane Arrows
Post by: Bone pile on May 18, 2017, 06:38:42 am
looking good Steve. i find in using palm that drying and shrinking is just what it does. freezing or soaking in salt water sometimes helps. just weave as tight as you can and wait and see (-P
Roger
Title: Re: Cabbage Palm Quiver and Cane Arrows
Post by: Parnell on May 18, 2017, 10:32:42 am
I need to finish this up!  Been very busy getting back from TN and closing down the school year.  Almost there.