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Title: 56 Bendy (Knots) what to do? UPDATE
Post by: Mad Max on May 30, 2017, 10:13:53 pm
56" bendy Handle, Just started floor tiller
I see some people drill (some) of them out. 1/8" bit to loosen things up?
Belly
(http://i.imgur.com/xmnqzTn.jpg)

Back, sticking up 1/4"
(http://i.imgur.com/vJZSmTX.jpg)



Belly
(http://i.imgur.com/mHuupGl.jpg)

Back, sticking up 1/4"
(http://i.imgur.com/XprwDgH.jpg)


Belly corner
(http://i.imgur.com/Eq5T6Fg.jpg)


Belly only,Dead end, I drilled this one
(http://i.imgur.com/tW0ZdeP.jpg)
Title: Re: 56 Bendy (Knots) what to do?
Post by: paulsemp on May 30, 2017, 10:18:52 pm
 I personally like to burn them out. heat up with thin piece of metal like a nail and the Punky wood will burn right out. the solid wood will not burn and it makes it really easy to see what you're working with
Title: Re: 56 Bendy (Knots) what to do?
Post by: Pat B on May 30, 2017, 10:23:18 pm
Mark, I fill all knots, back or belly with superglue. If there is a void I use fine saw dust and superglue putting it down in layers if deep.
Title: Re: 56 Bendy (Knots) what to do?
Post by: Mad Max on May 30, 2017, 10:26:01 pm
OK
two different ways so far.?
I see simson's bow, don't know if was already open or not?
http://www.primitivearcher.com/smf/index.php/topic,59906.0.html


Number 2 looks like it would come out with some work?
Title: Re: 56 Bendy (Knots) what to do?
Post by: paulsemp on May 30, 2017, 10:31:43 pm
There is no right and wrong. I just personally believe that if it's loose Punky wood it's going to end up popping sooner or later and it might as well be gone. If you end up with a clean hole through the limb you can leave it. But sometimes that knot will go through the limb on an angle and you can see where it goes. When they travel through the limb on an angle you got a great chance for failure later. If it ends up just being a divot you can fill it Like Pat said
Title: Re: 56 Bendy (Knots) what to do?
Post by: Pat B on May 30, 2017, 10:35:23 pm
Loose knots should probably be removed and if the hole is clean I leave it like that but other than that I do as I said above.
Title: Re: 56 Bendy (Knots) what to do?
Post by: Mad Max on June 02, 2017, 10:05:07 pm
I'v been floor tillering and got it to a 2" brace
Pulling to 5/6", it;s bending in the handle some, need to work on the outers more
Title: Re: 56 Bendy (Knots) what to do? UPDATE
Post by: Mad Max on August 07, 2017, 12:16:21 pm
UPDATE
So I worked on this one at Mojam
56" NTN bendy handle lots of knots
I kept hearing a tick while stringing after the bow had been unstrung for a while.
The back broke in the middle of a knot (none of those 1-4)
I had it bending nice at 16"
(http://i.imgur.com/sa5b3aF.jpg)
belly side
this knot
(http://i.imgur.com/KCQXjHE.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/xTYlpRO.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/4ibGq6O.jpg)
Title: Re: 56 Bendy (Knots) what to do? UPDATE
Post by: DC on August 07, 2017, 12:28:45 pm
Was the knot where it broke visible from the back? In the picture it kind of looks like it was hidden.
Title: Re: 56 Bendy (Knots) what to do? UPDATE
Post by: Mad Max on August 07, 2017, 12:51:19 pm
You can see on the back, it lifted from the center of the knot.
Title: Re: 56 Bendy (Knots) what to do? UPDATE
Post by: Selfbowman on August 07, 2017, 02:25:42 pm
Got to thin on the back growth ring at center of knot. :( it's happened to me also. Lesson learned. Sometimes you get away with it sometimes not. Arvin
Title: Re: 56 Bendy (Knots) what to do? UPDATE
Post by: Mad Max on August 07, 2017, 04:26:03 pm
Yep
Title: Re: 56 Bendy (Knots) what to do? UPDATE
Post by: lebhuntfish on August 07, 2017, 11:01:19 pm
That sucks buddy! I've seen that happen several times.  Most of the time its the least expected knot that is the problem.  (--)

Patrick
Title: Re: 56 Bendy (Knots) what to do? UPDATE
Post by: Mad Max on August 08, 2017, 06:33:40 am
It was the least expected knot.
Remember that tick sound I was talking about.
Title: Re: 56 Bendy (Knots) what to do? UPDATE
Post by: lebhuntfish on August 08, 2017, 07:51:00 am
Yes I do,  I also remember bracing it and couldn't find anything in the back.  Ive done that myself though.

Patrick
Title: Re: 56 Bendy (Knots) what to do? UPDATE
Post by: DuBois on August 08, 2017, 10:21:31 am
Bummer,
Looks like you put a lot into it and detail work too.