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Main Discussion Area => Arrows => Topic started by: keekeerun on March 22, 2008, 02:13:32 pm

Title: self nock ?
Post by: keekeerun on March 22, 2008, 02:13:32 pm

how deep do you guys make your self nocks.  I just made one in my multiflora rose shoot about 5/16 inches deep it fits the string nice, I figured any deeper and the chances of spliting are greater. What you all think?  Oh i did wrap it with sinew

Title: Re: self nock ?
Post by: Strongbow88 on March 22, 2008, 02:25:05 pm

I make mine 3/8 deep some people go as far as 1/2

Title: Re: self nock ?
Post by: keekeerun on March 22, 2008, 02:34:44 pm

thanks, I'll go a tad bit deeper

Title: Re: self nock ?
Post by: Sparrow on March 22, 2008, 02:40:28 pm

Long as it grips the string,I reackon it is deep enough.I just measured mine.3/8 inch deep (Must be about right) I do make them where they grip the string though,just like the plastic nocks.  Frank

Title: Re: self nock ?
Post by: david w. on March 22, 2008, 02:43:06 pm

i dont make mine very deep just as long as it stays on the string and i use a bandsaw to cut mine >:D  i used to do it more primitive but the bandsaw is so much easier

Title: Re: self nock ?
Post by: Pat B on March 22, 2008, 02:49:07 pm

Most of my self nocks are about 1/2" deep and most are loose fitting on the string. I  have gotten to prefer loose fitting nocks to eliminate any resistance as the arrow pulls off the string.    Pat

Title: Re: self nock ?
Post by: DBernier on March 22, 2008, 07:20:49 pm

I'm with Pat B on this only because I cut mine 1/2 inch deep like Pat. I also line mine with 1/64 plywood for some added strength. I also wrap the nock end with artificial sinew. Its mainly because my bows range from 62# to 70#.

Dick

Title: Re: self nock ?
Post by: Hillbilly on March 22, 2008, 08:21:52 pm

Usually 3/8". I've made them deeper and shallower, but 3/8" is a good happy medium. As long as they stay on your string and fly good, that's all that matters.

Title: Re: self nock ?
Post by: Coo-wah-chobee on March 22, 2008, 08:38:08 pm

3/8 " deep and loose fittin...bob

Title: Re: self nock ?
Post by: lowell on March 22, 2008, 09:37:38 pm

I kind of make mine grip the string. Would say mine are in the 3/8" area!!

 Can the people that like loose fitting nocks tell what they feel the advantage is by making them loose fitting??? ???

Title: Re: self nock ?
Post by: keekeerun on March 22, 2008, 10:11:16 pm

mine come out to 5/16, I stopped there  Hopefully I'll have pictures of my very first primitive arrow tommorow    thanks again

Title: Re: self nock ?
Post by: Coo-wah-chobee on March 22, 2008, 11:02:04 pm

Like Pat said about loose fittin'. Also up until about 20+ years ago even plastic nocks were loose fittin' called the mercury nocks I  believe........bob

Title: Re: self nock ?
Post by: wvfknapper on March 22, 2008, 11:29:51 pm

I like mine about 5/16 deep,, cut in with a small chainsaw file and loose fitting so there is no drag on the string upon release,, I use a bigger string nock locater on the string because I shoot three fingers under, never could shoot split finger for some reason even when I shot a training wheel bow.

wvflintknapper

Title: Re: self nock ?
Post by: El Destructo on March 23, 2008, 01:46:25 am

Your weird Robert......... 3 under on a Compound or a Primitive........:o    8)

My Nocks are a 1/2 inch deep...and have barely any resistance on the String....just enough to keep it on the String ...if you lean the Bow foward....I cut mine in with a Bandsaw...and widen them a touch with a 6p Finish Nail with emery cloth on it...till they fit the way I like them

Title: Re: self nock ?
Post by: Pat B on March 23, 2008, 02:14:36 am

I like a loose fit for ease of stringing the arrow and no drag on release. When hunting I hold the arrow at the nock point with my right hand on the string or at the bow with my left hand. If you will notice on historical primitive arrows the arrow nock was usually shallow and with a loose fit. Deep nocks and snap fits are recent innovations. I prefer a deep nock for safety reasons...to help prevents me from dry firing.    Pat

Title: Re: self nock ?
Post by: daniel on March 23, 2008, 11:22:53 am

"If you will notice on historical primitive arrows the arrow nock was usually shallow and with a loose fit"
"snap fits are recent innovations"

desagree Pat B; Turkish, Tartar, Indian, Chinesse arrows, all have snap type nocks;

Title: Re: self nock ?
Post by: Marc St Louis on March 23, 2008, 11:27:54 am

Used to make mine shallow but have come to prefer 1/2" deep and a snug fit.

Title: Re: self nock ?
Post by: Hillbilly on March 23, 2008, 11:47:01 am

Daniel, I think Pat was referring to Native American arrows. Many of those had shallow, loose nocks because they were shaot with a pinch grip-the bow was drawn by pulling on the arrow as much as the string so there's little chance of it slipping off.

Title: Re: self nock ?
Post by: Pat B on March 23, 2008, 12:27:43 pm

Danial, I stand corrected! But like Hillbilly said I was referring to NA archery. Most everything in archery today from snap nocks to overdraws to compound bows came from ancient cultures. There are very few new ideas today. Its all been done before. ;D
  I still prefer a deeper, loose fitting nock. ;)    Pat

Title: Re: self nock ?
Post by: George Tsoukalas on March 23, 2008, 10:54:11 pm

Mine fit snugly enough t stay on but yet drop off with a slight tap. Mine are 3/8 in deep. For consistency I wrapped some masking tape at that distance around a finished nail and use it as a gauge.  More info on my site. Jawge
http://mysite.verizon.net/georgeandjoni/

Title: Re: self nock ?
Post by: keekeerun on March 23, 2008, 11:34:43 pm

thanks again for all the info guys.  I shot my rose shoot today for the first time, it was a little stiff so I sanded the center and now it shoots where I look. I should be set up soon to send some pictures. JAWGE I'll send ya one to. Its so neat to make your own arrow and stone point, and have them shoot good.