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Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: Philipp A on January 06, 2018, 12:03:20 pm

Title: HHB experimental double void bow finished
Post by: Philipp A on January 06, 2018, 12:03:20 pm
Hi All,

I have finished the bow and I estimate that it will draw ~ 65# at 26". I can't measure it exactly since I am at my cottage without the usual tools. I can measure up to 22" and it draws 49# at that draw length. It draws and shoots very nicely and weighs painted and finished with shellac 594 grams (20.95 oz). Unfinished it weighed 589 grams. I will chrony it when I get back home.

I am including a link to the pictures. Please let me know if it doesn't work.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/62PNGMF10e7HFd9D3

I hope you like the finish on the back. it was inspired by Modoc bows from the Smithsonian National Museum of the American Indian and I adapted the design to fit my bow.

Cheers,

Phil

PS: As additional info I am adding the bow dimensions and other information below:

1. 67" n/n
2. 2.25" wide mid limb (including void)
3. each side limb at void 7/8"
4. width at handle: 1.25"
5. thickness from tip to void: 3/8"
6. thickness from void to handle: gradually increasing from 3/8" to 1/2"
7. thickness mid handle 3/4"
8. handle void transition concave at belly with belly ridge
9. voids transition with gentle slope to belly ridge and towards tip
10. tools used: bandsaw, hoof rasp, different files, drill to start voids and hand saw to cut voids, paint and cabinet scrapers
11. string FF with grey fox string silencers
12. wood: HHB stave, winter harvested from own bush from ~10" diameter tree
13. draw weight: ~65# @ 26"
Title: Re: HHB experimental double void bow finished
Post by: Strichev on January 06, 2018, 12:37:28 pm
That's a wild looking bow! I'm not usually a fan of painted artwork on bows but this here is really elegantly done. Also, really nice interior of the cottage.
Title: Re: HHB experimental double void bow finished
Post by: Philipp A on January 06, 2018, 02:39:15 pm
Thanks Strichev.

For those that don't like clicking links I am including a selection of the pictures with the finished back and one pic with it drawn with this post.
Title: Re: HHB experimental double void bow finished
Post by: Philipp A on January 06, 2018, 02:48:21 pm
a few more pics....
Title: Re: HHB experimental double void bow finished
Post by: upstatenybowyer on January 06, 2018, 02:52:52 pm
Very cool man, very cool.  8)
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Post by: DC on January 06, 2018, 02:55:35 pm
Nice bow and nice cottage.
Title: Re: HHB experimental double void bow finished
Post by: barebo on January 06, 2018, 05:41:51 pm
I can't say enough about your artistic application to this one. I have followed this as the concept was very interesting and you've pulled it off!
In my humble opinion, it looks like you're short drawing it in the pics.
This has been a great one to follow, like I posted earlier, a departure from the expected, and accolades to you for sharing !
Title: Re: HHB experimental double void bow finished
Post by: Ken S on January 06, 2018, 07:14:16 pm
Love It!!!!!!!!!!!! Great job on the paint, I hope it shoots as good as it looks.
Title: Re: HHB experimental double void bow finished
Post by: ohma2 on January 06, 2018, 08:17:23 pm
Like the artwork.hope the bow is all you hoped for.got to say though the grip makes my hand hurt just looking at it .if it works for you thats all that matters.
Title: Re: HHB experimental double void bow finished
Post by: Philipp A on January 06, 2018, 08:33:46 pm
Thank you all for your kind comments. Yes you are right I am short drawing it a bit, I have a hard time holding the bow long enough for the pictures. I am drawing it to the corner of my mouth where my usual anchor point is when shooting it but I hold it there only for a fraction of a second (I shoot all in one motion and don't hold the point).

In regards to the comfort of the handle, despite its thin and narrow shape with the belly ridge, it is actually surprisingly comfortable to hold and the bow has no hand shock at all.

It took me a long time to make this bow but I will still put it to work for target practice and I am looking forward to long range test it on my horse pasture in the spring. I hope it will last, I am still a bit concerned about some of the shallow knots I have on the belly, so I hope I will not develop compression fractures around them.

All the best,

Phil
Title: Re: HHB experimental double void bow finished
Post by: Jim Davis on January 06, 2018, 08:55:56 pm
Bow looks really pretty. Great art work. And great looking dog!
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Post by: Lehtis on January 06, 2018, 11:51:10 pm
 Wow!
Title: Re: HHB experimental double void bow finished
Post by: willie on January 07, 2018, 01:35:59 am
Well done in originality, design, execution and finish.
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Post by: chamookman on January 07, 2018, 01:56:38 am
Very nice  :OK ! Bob
Title: Re: HHB experimental double void bow finished
Post by: Jan de Bogenman on January 07, 2018, 09:41:37 am
Great artwork too! Have to try such a design too one day.
Title: Re: HHB experimental double void bow finished
Post by: mullet on January 07, 2018, 09:49:57 am
Like everyone else, can't say enough about the art work. I'm also curious about that design holding up, but then again HHB isn't called Iron wood for nothing.
Title: Re: HHB experimental double void bow finished
Post by: Philipp A on January 07, 2018, 10:13:14 am
Thanks mullet and the others that have commented, it is much appreciated!

The voids just lent themselves to this type of art work and I was debating with my wife whether I should paint the voids black or white. She thought white and I thought black, so I did one black first with a white squiggly line an black dots and then thought why not take my wife's advice and do the reverse on the bottom, I can always paint it over with black if it doesn't turn out. I actually now really like the contrast between the top and bottom and now don't have to think what is up and down when picking up the bow  :) . Yes the jury is still out whether the bow will last. I will take it back outside target shooting as soon as the weather warms up a bit.  As I have mentioned before I am a bit worried about a few small belly knots (they are just past the voids on one of the the outer limbs) but I will monitor them for any cracks. Hopefully it will last, if not it will make a nice wall display for the cottage, it is quite decorative and it was definitely a lot of fun to make!

All the best,

Phil
Title: Re: HHB experimental double void bow finished
Post by: burn em up chuck on January 07, 2018, 12:40:20 pm
    if one is to push design envelopes this how it should be done. Keep testing would be nice to see longevity results

                                                                                                              chuck
Title: Re: HHB experimental double void bow finished
Post by: NorthHeart on January 07, 2018, 01:04:15 pm
Very cool bow and art!
Title: Re: HHB experimental double void bow finished
Post by: Philipp A on January 09, 2018, 01:14:29 pm
Have the bow shooting well now and took some more full draw pictures (to corner of my mouth). It seems to be hitting my 3d target really hard, so I am looking forward to chrony it when getting home. No cracks yet on the small belly knots, so I am keeping my fingers crossed!

High res link is included below:

https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipM-1q15sSbqgPBKN4czEPzl5HCxTKzXkp6750BlST7X6MLr0V80YyP1F70FO-xVeQ?key=OWxOdkJMT3M3VE1uVzZMLXB5N29NQnJyTTRmYkdR
Title: Re: HHB experimental double void bow finished
Post by: Jim Davis on January 09, 2018, 01:54:29 pm
Nice. Beautiful setting too. Did you say where in the north you are? Pretty sure I see lots of hemlocks there.
Title: Re: HHB experimental double void bow finished
Post by: Philipp A on January 09, 2018, 02:30:29 pm
Thanks Jim,

I am in the Laurentians in Quebec :), beautiful mixed forest out here!
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Post by: M2A on January 09, 2018, 04:12:49 pm
Great job all around! Art work sure is fitting for that bow. Mike
Title: Re: HHB experimental double void bow finished
Post by: Hawkdancer on January 10, 2018, 12:14:50 am
Real neat artwork!  That bow seems to be a shooter from either side!
Hawkdancer
Title: Re: HHB experimental double void bow finished
Post by: Aaron H on January 10, 2018, 06:36:38 am
Very well done
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Post by: AniKituahBowyer on January 10, 2018, 10:21:03 am
Fantastic work! The artistry here is gorgeous!