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Title: Hay rake teeth to flint strikers
Post by: KHalverson on February 27, 2018, 06:05:11 pm
the yellow rake tooth was purchased from my local tractor supply store for $1.99.
that's a very reasonable cost for almost 3 feet of high carbon steel.

step #1 is to heat the tooth to @ least red hot and uncoil.
repeat as many times as necassary until ya have a fairly straight rod.
Title: Re: Hay rake teeth to flint strikers
Post by: KHalverson on February 27, 2018, 06:15:47 pm
step #4 is to start forging the tooth flat.
I'm shooting for 5/16-3/8 wide by roughly 1/8th thick.
I like to flatten about 5 inches of stock.

step 5 is to start tapering down the end of the stock.
I shoot for about 2 inches worth of taper.
Title: Re: Hay rake teeth to flint strikers
Post by: KHalverson on February 27, 2018, 07:21:03 pm
next I mark @ 5 inches over all.
that is where I want my second taper to start.
I taper out to about 6.5 inches.
Title: Re: Hay rake teeth to flint strikers
Post by: Trapper Rob on February 27, 2018, 07:37:39 pm
Those hay rake teeth make good strikers.
Title: Re: Hay rake teeth to flint strikers
Post by: osage outlaw on February 27, 2018, 08:11:36 pm
I'm watching. Thanks for posting this.
Title: Re: Hay rake teeth to flint strikers
Post by: chamookman on February 28, 2018, 02:01:01 am
Cool - I'm watchin'  (-P ! Thanks - Bob.
Title: Re: Hay rake teeth to flint strikers
Post by: Stoner on February 28, 2018, 01:35:36 pm
Thanks for sharing, waiting & watching patiently. John
Title: Re: Hay rake teeth to flint strikers
Post by: KHalverson on February 28, 2018, 04:42:57 pm
next step I use a chisel to hot cut the striker @ about 6.5 inches
I then forge in taper till about 7 inches long.
next i clamp a small ball pein hammer in my leg vise and use it as a mandrel to start my bend.
Title: Re: Hay rake teeth to flint strikers
Post by: Stringman on February 28, 2018, 04:48:08 pm
Watching
Title: Re: Hay rake teeth to flint strikers
Post by: KHalverson on February 28, 2018, 04:50:58 pm
I finish the first bend and start the 2nd bend same as the first.
second bend gets finished and then I reheat and place in the vise to align the ears.
next I curl the ears.
Title: Re: Hay rake teeth to flint strikers
Post by: KHalverson on February 28, 2018, 04:55:59 pm
ears are aligned.
and then curled.
Title: Re: Hay rake teeth to flint strikers
Post by: KHalverson on February 28, 2018, 05:28:13 pm
I stamp my mark next,
if you put your work in the publics eye it deserves to be maker identified in my opinion.
here the striker is heated till non magnetic( critical temperature).
Title: Re: Hay rake teeth to flint strikers
Post by: KHalverson on February 28, 2018, 05:34:30 pm
quench only the striking edge in water leaving the ears to cool below red heat above water.
this produces the super hard edge required to strike consistent sparks but allows the ears to stay softer and less brittle.
next we hit the grinder to clean the decarbed  striking edge up.
be  cautious to keep the striker cool.
Title: Re: Hay rake teeth to flint strikers
Post by: KHalverson on February 28, 2018, 05:39:00 pm
final step is testing,
we have nice sparks on some Michigan quartz.
I use that for my testing cause it doesn't produce  spark as easily as most flints,
if i get good sparks of this  good rock makes it easy.


Title: Re: Hay rake teeth to flint strikers
Post by: KHalverson on February 28, 2018, 05:40:58 pm
I hope this encourages others to give this a try.
feel free to ask questions and I will answer to the best of my ability,
Kevin
Title: Re: Hay rake teeth to flint strikers
Post by: osage outlaw on February 28, 2018, 06:30:25 pm
Nice work Kevin.  Thanks for posting it.  What kind of belt grinder do you use?  I would like to get a good one this summer.
Title: Re: Hay rake teeth to flint strikers
Post by: chamookman on March 01, 2018, 02:15:39 am
Thanks for sharing Kevin - really enjoyed it  :OK ! Bob
Title: Re: Hay rake teeth to flint strikers
Post by: bjrogg on March 01, 2018, 12:16:41 pm
Thanks Kevin very nice build. Looks like a good project for a beginner.
Bjrogg
Title: Re: Hay rake teeth to flint strikers
Post by: JEB on March 01, 2018, 01:24:30 pm
I think a beginner like me can figure that out. Very nice How To and thanks Kevin
Title: Re: Hay rake teeth to flint strikers
Post by: bubby on March 01, 2018, 01:34:14 pm
So Kevin you don't temper it after quench, that may have been my problem. I have this on my to do list now
Title: Re: Hay rake teeth to flint strikers
Post by: KHalverson on March 01, 2018, 07:06:53 pm
So Kevin you don't temper it after quench, that may have been my problem. I have this on my to do list now

no temper needed .
u need the hardness.
Title: Re: Hay rake teeth to flint strikers
Post by: Stringman on March 02, 2018, 07:40:12 am
Took me about 45 mins to get my first steel finished. Thanks again Kevan!
Title: Re: Hay rake teeth to flint strikers
Post by: High-Desert on March 02, 2018, 11:06:33 am
Thanks for posting this, always wanted to try making a striker.
Title: Re: Hay rake teeth to flint strikers
Post by: KHalverson on March 02, 2018, 01:52:39 pm
Took me about 45 mins to get my first steel finished. Thanks again Kevan!

good deal.
pretty soon you will be banging out 3-4 an hour.
Title: Re: Hay rake teeth to flint strikers
Post by: Hawkdancer on March 02, 2018, 02:13:05 pm
Good how to build along!  Now all I need is a forge, an anvil, a pair of forging pliers, and finding my round tuit!  Oh, and some lessons in using the striker! >:D (=)
Hawkdancer
Title: Re: Hay rake teeth to flint strikers
Post by: Stoner on March 03, 2018, 07:27:27 am
Have you ever done a knife w/striker handle? Thanks John
Title: Re: Hay rake teeth to flint strikers
Post by: KHalverson on March 03, 2018, 08:45:55 am
Have you ever done a knife w/striker handle? Thanks John
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Yessir!!!
Title: Re: Hay rake teeth to flint strikers
Post by: JW_Halverson on March 03, 2018, 01:51:17 pm
Have you ever done a knife w/striker handle? Thanks John

I have owned two of 'em. Nice in theory, but brittle in function.  Both broke handles off shortly after I received them.
Title: Re: Hay rake teeth to flint strikers
Post by: Stoner on March 03, 2018, 02:03:30 pm
"I have owned two of 'em. Nice in theory, but brittle in function.  Both broke handles off shortly after I received them. "

Thanks for the reply. Thought it would be a neat idea to shave wood or magnesium then strike.

Was looking at some RR spike hawks & knives. I like the hawk you made, can't remember the thread. I was on a job site running parallel with the RR. picked up a bunch of spikes and found a small cut off of track & plate for an anvil.  John
Title: Re: Hay rake teeth to flint strikers
Post by: JW_Halverson on March 03, 2018, 02:07:12 pm
If you are remembering the railroad spike tomahawk with the curly ash handle, I own it.  It matches the curly ash handled rifleman's knife he also made and I own.  And both match the curly ash stocked .69 caliber flintlock smoothbore that Jack Garner made and I own.

It's nothing if not the nicest set of woods gear I have ever seen.
Title: Re: Hay rake teeth to flint strikers
Post by: Stoner on March 03, 2018, 02:26:55 pm
I believe that's the hawk. Owl stamped on the sheath, KH stamped in the head & black walnut wedge in the handle. John
Title: Re: Hay rake teeth to flint strikers
Post by: burchett.donald on March 03, 2018, 09:38:23 pm
Nice work Kevin! That baby is blowing some sparks...
                                                                                  Don
Title: Re: Hay rake teeth to flint strikers
Post by: bubby on March 23, 2018, 07:23:42 am
I picked up one of those hay rakes and straightened it out. I will make a few of these when the weather is good
Title: Re: Hay rake teeth to flint strikers
Post by: BowEd on March 23, 2018, 11:45:12 am
Nice post.Thanks for showing.
I use broken discarded rake teeth here to for various things.
Title: Re: Hay rake teeth to flint strikers
Post by: wildman on April 29, 2018, 07:20:43 am
By far my favorite striker material.
Title: Re: Hay rake teeth to flint strikers
Post by: bubby on May 20, 2018, 05:21:19 pm
Well here's my first striker from a hay rake spring tooth. Not as refined as Kevin's but it works good
Title: Re: Hay rake teeth to flint strikers
Post by: KHalverson on May 21, 2018, 07:04:17 am
Not bad for the 1st .