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Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: Tracker0721 on March 05, 2018, 04:55:48 pm

Title: Osage in the works (Tiller started pg 2)
Post by: Tracker0721 on March 05, 2018, 04:55:48 pm
Just gonna post photos and a few questions as I make this stick bend. Got a perfect stave from Dubois in trade and this will hopefully end up as my elk bow for this year.

First question, I’m 5’ 7”, would a 66 or a 64 or even a 62” serve me best? My first was a 58 and my second a 62. Was thinking a 66 would be nice and smooth but is there much difference going to a 64”?

Goal weight is 55# at 27”. 

Stave is down to 1 growth ring and of course in the last 9” I took a bit too deep from one side and hit the next growth ring. If it ends up interfering with layout I’ll drop a growth ring. This stave is a monster!
Title: Re: Osage in the works
Post by: osage outlaw on March 05, 2018, 06:23:16 pm
My vote is for 64"
Title: Re: Osage in the works
Post by: Swampman on March 05, 2018, 06:45:57 pm
I think 64 inches too.  That is a nice looking stave.  Should make a great bow.
Title: Re: Osage in the works
Post by: George Tsoukalas on March 05, 2018, 06:57:27 pm
64" ntn. Jawge
Title: Re: Osage in the works
Post by: Parnell on March 05, 2018, 07:21:19 pm
What are you thinking for your handle and fades?
Title: Re: Osage in the works
Post by: Tracker0721 on March 05, 2018, 09:47:12 pm
Stiff handle, I always do 4” and 2” fades. Dunno why. I shoot split finger, any other layout I should try?
Title: Re: Osage in the works
Post by: Selfbowman on March 06, 2018, 02:16:21 am
66ntn.  Is my vote . Nice stave by the way.  Arvin
Title: Re: Osage in the works
Post by: Pappy on March 06, 2018, 07:11:12 am
Nice looking stave, I like 64 or 66 n-n, either will work, just remember longer is always safer. ;) :) I usually do 4 inch handle with 1 1/2 fads, like you don't know why, little more working limb I guess. :) Look forward to seeing it come along. :)
 Pappy
Title: Re: Osage in the works
Post by: Badger on March 06, 2018, 08:20:27 am
  I agree with Pappy, I am 5'7" also with a 27" draw. A few years ago I went up from mostly 64" bows to 66" bows.
Title: Re: Osage in the works
Post by: Parnell on March 06, 2018, 08:27:35 am
Generally I do 4" and 2" fades...I've come to really like longer fades.  I started shooting three under and am toying with the idea of raising the rest on my shelf with the adjusted nockpoint, so the one I'm working on I gave myself a little room at 5".  Sounds like a good plan, it's a beauty of a stave.
Title: Re: Osage in the works
Post by: Tracker0721 on March 06, 2018, 04:48:13 pm
Had to put my stuff down and walk out... that bit of a ring violation was right in the way so I picked the next biggest ring down, 4 rings. The 3 in between were almost paper. Got past the knots, last half, there’s no knots or anything but for some reason on a swipe it pulled up splinters and they’re 2 rings down. Plenty of wood still but it was rather upsetting. I’ll go workout, maybe play some video games, and see if I’m in the right zone.

Stupid trying to peel off a longer swipe just because it seemed like smooth sailing and I was excited to get it rough shaped. Now I gotta chase a less than preferable ring! Haha oh man. The joys of primitive archery.
Title: Re: Osage in the works
Post by: Tracker0721 on March 06, 2018, 09:06:33 pm
Few rings down but she’s all laid out. Only one spot has me a bit concerned but I think it’ll still bend fine.

1 5/8” at the fades
Hair over 1/2” at nocks(looks aweful skinny at 1/2”)
1” handle

4” stuff handle and 2” fades

Thinking of roughing to a bit more then 1/2” thick? Might go a bit thicker.
Title: Re: Osage in the works
Post by: Pat B on March 06, 2018, 09:32:49 pm
If I may suggest...leave the handle area wide and the tips wide. You don't need either shaped to tiller your bow out to low brace and you can make alignment adjustments by shifting the handle or one tip or both tips to align the string down the middle.
Title: Re: Osage in the works
Post by: Tracker0721 on March 06, 2018, 09:48:49 pm
That sounds smart to me sir! I’ll be making a tillering gizmo tomorrow and roughing out. Should I steam the handle(has a big bend) once I get it to brace or once floor tillered?
Title: Re: Osage in the works
Post by: BowEd on March 07, 2018, 06:59:37 am
Tracker0721.....I can remember my first year with osage and chasing rings.Made the mistake of trying very thin ringed staves.Frustrating getting to the end and then violating it.Doing it over again.Made sure I had deep staves then.I found out too then the rings are wider at the base of the tree.I then started at the thinner area first and then as I went the rings got thicker for the home stretch.Good looking stave and good luck with your build.
Title: Re: Osage in the works
Post by: Tracker0721 on March 07, 2018, 07:58:46 am
Haha exactly what I did. I was going thick to thin and my last ring I went from thin to the thick and had no problem.
Title: Re: Osage in the works
Post by: Eric Garza on March 07, 2018, 08:18:00 am
Looks like you have already decided on your dimensions. I was going to vote for 66, or even 67 if that is an option. I used to make a lot of short bows, but over the years have gravitated towards longer and longer designs. Today I prefer a bow that is about as long as I am tall. I am 67 inches tall, so that is about where most of my bows end up.
Title: Re: Osage in the works
Post by: Tracker0721 on March 07, 2018, 01:50:14 pm
I ended up with 66, the stave total was just shy of 67. Figure I can cut it down if I miss my goal weight haha!

If they’re too long won’t they be less efficient at a certain draw? I’m going for a slightly overbuilt safe bow, but don’t want a bunch of mass that’s more harm than good.
Title: Re: Osage in the works
Post by: Tracker0721 on March 09, 2018, 02:51:43 pm
And the knot fell right out so now I’ve got a holy bow!

Won’t be able to work on it till Monday so she sits at floor tiller stage.
Title: Re: Osage in the works
Post by: BowEd on March 09, 2018, 03:58:58 pm
Sweet and cool at the same time!!!
Title: Re: Osage in the works
Post by: osage outlaw on March 09, 2018, 04:58:09 pm
Looks good.
Title: Re: Osage in the works
Post by: Springbuck on March 09, 2018, 07:24:36 pm
Nothing to add but my encouragement!  Good luck.
Title: Re: Osage in the works
Post by: Tracker0721 on March 12, 2018, 09:42:34 pm
66” NTN and using a 66” string as a “long string”. Took her to 20” and she’s at 35#s. Feeling good about getting 55.

 Think I might steam it to align the tips and I feel I have to fix this twist. Should I do that now or tiller more?

Also she lost her couple inches of reflex while spending a couple hours tillering to here but after sweeping and clean up she’d Gained an inch back.