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Title: Best ocean spray staves EVER
Post by: Taxus brevifolia on May 03, 2018, 09:35:54 pm
May look a bit rough but this is the fattest ocean spray I've ever found. I think I can work around the knots.

Title: Re: Best ocean spray staves EVER
Post by: Springbuck on May 03, 2018, 10:01:27 pm
  Oh, yeah, you got this.  That second one is so little, but so clean!
Title: Re: Best ocean spray staves EVER
Post by: Hawkdancer on May 03, 2018, 10:31:18 pm
Have fun!  Those look like really stick bows :BB >:D!  Not familiar with ocean spray, though ;D
Hawkdancer
Title: Re: Best ocean spray staves EVER
Post by: DC on May 03, 2018, 11:12:24 pm
Those are good ones. Dry them carefully :)
Title: Re: Best ocean spray staves EVER
Post by: Bryce on May 04, 2018, 01:12:41 am
Looks good.
Just a quick heads up. Best time to cut is in winter. This time of year they are sucking up and running moisture. It’s gonna be hard to dry those without having them split.
I would seal up the knots and dip the ends a couple times in some water proof wood floor or floor wax.
Leave the bark on. After a year rough out and re-seal. Wait another 6 months and continue to build the bow:)
Title: Re: Best ocean spray staves EVER
Post by: Del the cat on May 04, 2018, 01:37:52 am
Should be good for 150# @26"  ;D
Del
Title: Re: Best ocean spray staves EVER
Post by: Taxus brevifolia on May 04, 2018, 08:54:08 am
Thanks! I was hoping for info on how to handle it, you guys came through!
Title: Re: Best ocean spray staves EVER
Post by: DC on May 04, 2018, 09:01:00 am
I put mine in a clear plastic tube after sealing it up like Bryce said. Monitor it daily and clear out any condensation. Leave it in the tube for a month or so. You almost can't dry it slow enough. Very tough stuff to dry.
Title: Re: Best ocean spray staves EVER
Post by: Morgan on May 04, 2018, 09:53:15 am
I’ve heard of people leaving highly figured wood submerged in water for months before drying to keep it from splitting and warping. Would this work for staves that is hard to dry?
Title: Re: Best ocean spray staves EVER
Post by: DC on May 04, 2018, 10:09:57 am
We've discussed this before but I think unless you have a very deep cold oxygen freeish pond (a deep well may work)I think you would just be accelerating the rotting process. Notice I said "think", I don't really know. I'm pretty sure that if I threw a piece of OS in my fish pond it would be mush pretty quick.
Title: Re: Best ocean spray staves EVER
Post by: Morgan on May 04, 2018, 10:15:51 am
What if you put a stave in a 4” pvc pipe with bleach water? The bleach should kill any rotting bacteria or fungus. Would it adversely affect the wood?
Title: Re: Best ocean spray staves EVER
Post by: DC on May 04, 2018, 11:53:34 am
No idea. Personally I think it just delays the inevitable. Sooner or later you have to dry the wood. By soaking it you're just delaying the drying time.
Title: Re: Best ocean spray staves EVER
Post by: burchett.donald on May 04, 2018, 08:15:04 pm
    This is a good read...http://www.primitivearcher.com/smf/index.php/topic,56125.msg766730.html#msg766730
  Steve b. has supplied me with beautiful staves absolutely zero checks...I have been told by him that he uses and old "sleeping bag" after stripping the bark off a green stave, he wraps it to slow the drying... He also uses a kerf on a stiff handle design...Steve doesn't post here anymore...I just finished my last stave from him and hope to post it this upcoming week...He may respond to a PM...Hope this helps guy's...
                                                                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                                        Don                     
Title: Re: Best ocean spray staves EVER
Post by: Bryce on May 04, 2018, 09:55:51 pm
    This is a good read...http://www.primitivearcher.com/smf/index.php/topic,56125.msg766730.html#msg766730
  Steve b. has supplied me with beautiful staves absolutely zero checks...I have been told by him that he uses and old "sleeping bag" after stripping the bark off a green stave, he wraps it to slow the drying... He also uses a kerf on a stiff handle design...Steve doesn't post here anymore, but he is what I would call a very knowledgable bowyer, especially when it comes to OS...I just finished my last stave from him and hope to post it this upcoming week...He may respond to a PM...Hope this helps guy's...
                                                                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                                        Don    Burchett                   



There really is t any reason to kerf the stave at all, or wrap it in plastic when the bark works all the same. Idk why Steve does it like that but to each there own. Steve is a guy who likes to keep to himself. I’ve never had to. I just seal em and wait. When cut in the coldest part of winter they don’t check on me.

I have made quite a few from OS i think I posted one on here. I’ll try and find it so you can see a few examples. Josh (elktracker) has made a few as well I know his is posted on this forum.                                       
Title: Re: Best ocean spray staves EVER
Post by: Bryce on May 04, 2018, 10:13:09 pm
I had to fix the pictures Bc photobucket is a jerk. But I found em.

http://www.primitivearcher.com/smf/index.php?topic=49397.msg674467#msg674467

http://www.primitivearcher.com/smf/index.php?topic=26500.0



PA is great! Everyone is here to help, even if you don’t ask. Don’t be afraid to ask anything. No one will think your dumb or anything like that. This is a great community.
Title: Re: Best ocean spray staves EVER
Post by: burchett.donald on May 04, 2018, 10:21:26 pm
 Living in South Carolina, I must say I have zero experience with drying or cutting OS...But I can say it is one super wood ! I have made 5 bendy bows from OS...Wish it grew here Bryce...Your staves are top notch...I give OS an A on compression and tension so far with my limited experience...Dried in reflex has held without heat tempering...!
                                                                                                                                                       Don
Title: Re: Best ocean spray staves EVER
Post by: Bryce on May 04, 2018, 10:36:03 pm
Living in South Carolina, I must say I have zero experience with drying or cutting OS...But I can say it is one super wood ! I have made 5 bendy bows from OS...Wish it grew here Bryce...Your staves are top notch...I give OS an A on compression and tension so far with my limited experience...Dried in reflex has held without heat tempering...!
                                                                                                                                                       Don


The only downside is sometimes those pin knots will quit on yah :/
Title: Re: Best ocean spray staves EVER
Post by: DC on May 04, 2018, 11:49:12 pm
I often wonder how great a bow you could make if you could find an OS stave with no pins. Every OS bow save one that has failed for me failed at a pin. That one exploded like Yew.
Title: Re: Best ocean spray staves EVER
Post by: Taxus brevifolia on May 05, 2018, 09:32:02 pm
Wowsi just found three more good ones. I'll post them in bows shortly
Title: Re: Best ocean spray staves EVER
Post by: aaron on May 06, 2018, 06:22:44 pm
as someone else said- leave them alive until winter. They have less tendency to split.
Title: Re: Best ocean spray staves EVER
Post by: Taxus brevifolia on May 08, 2018, 01:07:10 am
Yes thanks to you guys now I know to cut them in winter