Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: 330bull on April 02, 2008, 12:50:26 am
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Hello,
Well I wish my original post was an April Fool's joke but it's not. I re tillered this bow and managed to save it. It pulls ~45# @ 26", so I think I may just finish it out and give it to a kid, or stretch it out to 28" and give it to my buddy. It originall pulled 55# @ 26, with 1" of reflex on both ends, and...was smokin' hot! 8) Now it has ~1" of string follow, but almost zero handshock.
Please take a look at the tiller and let me know what all of you think.
Thanks in advance, and as always I appreciate your feedback.
Joe
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Joe, It looks good to me. When I'm tillering a bow with lots of irregularities I squint my eyes to look at it. This blurs the details out and just shows me the silhouette. Those details will get you in trouble sometimes. ;) Pat
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Joe, Didn't you torch the last one that looked like that? Better try again, but this time, just send it to me and save the carbon credits. ;D The oval tells the tell. It looks pretty good, maybe just a bit stiff on the bottom, uh em.. right.. limb towards the very tip. But then again, I'm one of the new guys.
Mike
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I don't know about you Joe, That looks beautiful and 45# is plenty for deer. You have blacktails in Or. right?
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If you are looking for perfect then the bottom limb could come around a little more near the tip. But it is fine just the way it is. There is nothing wrong with a 45# bow - your arm, shoulder, and accuracy will appreciate the lighter weight after a long day of shooting.
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Well like Otoe said...the Bottom Limb could be tweaked a bit...if you want perfection....Mr. O.C.D......but please leave it be....and enjoy it...or give it to someone that will!! As for the Picture....glad you picked up on that little Trick...it has worked for me for Years......you cant hide the Details for it....as long as you hold the Bow square in the Picture.....I like it....go shoot!!!
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Okay I'm with everyone else the bow is good enough. The one question I have is how do you get the dotted lines on the pic.
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Microsoft Paint works...and there are a bunch of others too
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Joe thats just awful better send it to me you wouldn't want anyone to see ya with hat would you ;)
Looks good from where I'm sitting.
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Thanks for all of the feedback guys. I truly appreciate it and I can assure you I will always ask for tillering advice from this point forward. I hate tillering trees because i don't like to hold the bow @ full draw for more than 2 seconds. So...I'll continue to use MS WORD and a camera!
Joe
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I don't either, John. I use a rope and pulley. See Bow Making Directions on my site. Jawge
http://mysite.verizon.net/georgeandjoni/
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I don't either, John. I use a rope and pulley. See Bow Making Directions on my site. Jawge
http://mysite.verizon.net/georgeandjoni/
Jawge...how do you hold it at draw and go mark the spots that need attention???
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I'm with George on this one - make yourself a tree. It's much better (and safer) than a tillering stick and a great tool for breaking in a bow.
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how do you hold it at draw and go mark the spots that need attention???
Hold the rope with one hand and mark with the other. Or you can attach a cleat to the tree to hold the rope for you.
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how do you hold it at draw and go mark the spots that need attention???
Hold the rope with one hand and mark with the other. Or you can attach a cleat to the tree to hold the rope for you.
So you have to hold the Rope and walk back up to the Bow to mark it?? Well I guess I am going to have to put a Tiedown in the Floor ...so I can hook it off and then walk up and mark it....or I could give my Walkie Talkie to my Wife and let He mark it....... ::)
Still be a safe distance from it myself!!!!! Don't tell Her I said that....She'd Scalp Me!!! >:D
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Actually I think most of ya take this way too seriously, 2 seconds at full draw well holy wuh eh, if 2 seconds ruins a bow then in my very simple minded opinion you out to get a fiberglass bow or a compound :o I've only been at this about 15 months but I have to say you can get away with alot more than the experts tell ya. Same with the arra's its amazing how crooked they can be and still shoot straight. I admire the experts like most of ya but Joe you need to get a reality check here, search as you may there is no such thing as a perfect tiller, bow or bowyer. Too many folks are obsessed with the search for a perfect bow. If your a hunter do you really think the critters care what the tiller looks like or the 14 coats of finish sanded to 800 grit, all i'm saying is lighten up have some fun, looks to me like ya built a great bow now go enjoy it eh.
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No need to walk back if you use a short rope - just grab it near the pulley. Only need to hold it for a few seconds.
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Well said Dana. A couple of months ago I visited a buddy up north who got into building bows last year. While we were talking he mentioned casually that he’d been working on a new bow. Well of course I wanted to see it! But he was reluctant saying that the tiller needed work and he was embarrassed to show someone like me who has won BOM blah, blah, blah. Eventually Greg showed me the bow and, for the life of me, I could not find a darn thing wrong with it. I told him to put a finish on it and shoot it – the tiller was perfect enough!
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Thanks Gordon, this adventure we chose to undertake is all about having fun. And once we stop taking ourselves so seriously the fun starts ;D
I really do admire a well crafted and finished bow. But any bow that flings an arrow and puts a smile on yer face is a success in my book. I enjoy a bow that is full dress
but I think some of us new guys get the wrong impression from some of the bows posted. It really is simple do the best you can with the materials you have and have fun ;D
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That's good advice Dana. Yeah I admit I'm probably way too critical most of the time when it comes to making bows. Trust me though, there are very few straight pieces of VM out there, and in retrospect the initial tillering job was probably as good as that bumpy log was going to get.
I do have a bow pulley that I use but I can never seem to see the real tiller until I take a picture and use the WORD Shape function. I like that a lot better and I can stare at the tiller for a long time.
I already have another VM stave peeled and ready for chip making next week. Like I said before, I'll post pics and ask for advice before I do anything insanely stupid again.
Joe
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Well said, Dana. And Joe-nothing wrong with a 45# bow, either. I remember reading that Ishi's favorite hunting bow drew about 40#.
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Actually I think most of ya take this way too seriously, 2 seconds at full draw well holy wuh eh, if 2 seconds ruins a bow then in my very simple minded opinion you out to get a fiberglass bow or a compound :o I've only been at this about 15 months but I have to say you can get away with alot more than the experts tell ya. Same with the arra's its amazing how crooked they can be and still shoot straight. I admire the experts like most of ya but Joe you need to get a reality check here, search as you may there is no such thing as a perfect tiller, bow or bowyer. Too many folks are obsessed with the search for a perfect bow. If your a hunter do you really think the critters care what the tiller looks like or the 14 coats of finish sanded to 800 grit, all i'm saying is lighten up have some fun, looks to me like ya built a great bow now go enjoy it eh.
I could not have worded it Better....Good Job Dana.
Joe your Fairy God Mother needs to Hit You In the Head with Her Wand....and say...."Joe Klink....Go Out And Play!!".....
Beauty Way Ta Go Man!!!!
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Yankeetejas, I just watch, note where wood removal is needed, let down, mark it, unstring, and remove the wood. Jawge
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Well said Dana ;D
George- I do the same thing. I just look at the spot that needs attention and mark it after letting it down. Sometimes I hold it at full draw for a bit to make sure I see it right. It might be slightly bad for the bow but unless you are in a flight shooting tournament or something who cares ;D
Oh very nice bow by the way. Looks great. Jesse