Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Flintknapping => Topic started by: paulc on December 08, 2018, 06:32:31 am
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Anyone collected there recently? I'll be in the area for Christmas and hope to go collect some rock.
I've sent them a note through FB this morning...
Thanks, Paul
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Had never heard of this place before but looked it up...... would be a great one day trip from where I live... abd would ve nice to gather my own flint. Thanks
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Let us know how it goes Paul. I've got the address in my phone just in case I ever get that way.
Bjrogg
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Was there this fall when attending Flintridge, the old gal was selling away. It was cherry picked over pretty good so you will have to spend some time there. She is a very nice person to talk with. 50cents a pound is what she charges.
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So do you dig/excavate your own or?
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I will be digging my own as best I can...
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Last time I was there .50 cents a lb. and $5.00 trespass fee. Make sure and bring 3# hammer and some stone chisel and a good spud bar, gloves and a potato fork for digging in the dirt pile from a already started hole. Be ready for some hard work, Every one should dig there own one time an then you will understand why rock dealers charge what they do :o ;D Have fun and make sure an high grade. Bob
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Sounds like fun... thanks :)
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She never charged me the trespass fee Bob but she did smile at me and offered me a coffee when I paid. Told me sit awhile. lol
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Jeb, she was never there when I was so I just put the money in her pre arranged envelopes and such. :o Bob
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She was sitting in her rocker on the deck when I pulled up. What a great lady to visit with.
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That's great Jeb.
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Love those type of landowners! Met up with one like that back in the 70's, learned more about the area in 10 minutes than my a.h. Hunting partner learned in 2 days, never hunted with him again! My local land owner gets a 6 pack of each batch of beer I make, but she was also the one who got me into brewing! Be glad to talk with them any time!
Hawkdancer
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I shipped home about 65lbs of stone from Nethers-we flew to holidays this year. I'll post some pics after it comes out of Turkey roaster. And I noticed the owner has a pile of digging tools on the back porch-so it looked like she will lean you shovels and picks...etc.
Paul
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that sounds like an awesome place
im looking forward to the pictures of the rock you got
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the two boxes I shipped home arrived today....hopefully i can get some points out of this but I'm worried about freeze cracks. Next time I collect I might try to focus on stuff that has slabbed "naturally" from the freeze/thaw and maybe save myself some heartache...Good part is a lot of this can also be used to make jewelry with the wife once it proves unsuitable for knapping. Paul
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that forth pic is my two test pieces that came back in luggage. Both were perhaps softball-ish in size and they are a lot smaller now. Only 2 or 3 flakes popped off that might be turned into a point-last two pics is one possible point from test rock....Paul
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that test piece sure is good looking
I do see a lot of fractures in the rocks that youll have to work around but it sure looks good in between them.
Thanks for the look
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Cook it up and the colors may change.
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Gotta be something in there. (-P
Bjrogg
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Latest from the cooker...
bottom rock doesn't seem to even be flint as near as I can tell-but pretty neat looking.
Left is def flint but no pattern to the breaks
Top rock seems to have a lot of promise-doubt anything too large but certainly a couple arrowheads.
The point is about as good as it will get for that piece-first break from first cooking. It is right at 1"wide so I could spare a tiny bit of width trying to thin it down but not sure it is worth it. I put the parent rock back in the cooker last night so maybe more heat will allow me to get more out of what is left....Paul
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I have managed to slab a bit of my flint ridge stuff! So for those of you that might be interested in it-you don't need an expensive proper rock saw. This is my crappy refurbed saw from ebay with a $60 blade that says you have to use oil to cool it but water seems to have worked okay for today. Of course the size of what you can cut is pretty limited but I think I can get arrowheads out of these...
Now to try and cook the slabs a bit to get some better flaking.
Paul
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so I changed my cooking process this weekend-put a load through the turkey roaster all night Friday and then shallow buried it and kept a med fire burning on it for about 8hrs Saturday. I didn't get much/any pieces exploding and much of it has improved in it knapp-ability. But this is still going to be some really tough stuff to work with. I was approaching what could have been described as a preform with this piece before it came apart. But I was beating on it like madman so not that surprising it broke. Perhaps a little more heat would have helped this piece-really don't know. Now I have a shot at getting two small points...the story of my knapping life :-) This is such NEAT stone!! And challenging!
Paul
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Another clunky preform from Nethers rock. It will break if I hit it with all I have with a bopper but I can't do much with a pressure flaker. Would cooking this for longer, or at higher temp cause it to flake better?
Thanks, Paul
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Paulc, I'm certainly no expert cook. It sure doesn't look overcooked to me though. Might try putting your preform in cooker to. Hoping you get something slick and colorful.
Bjrogg
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more heat can't hurt if it's still too tough, I reckon, but I'd sure rather have a undercooked rock any day versus an overcooked rock
That sure is some cool looking rock.
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How does overcooked rock behave? How will i know I have taken it too far? Paul
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It will crumble when you hit it.
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It will crumble when you hit it.
Yup you'll know if you overcook it.
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that stuff should work pretty well, ive worked a lot of flint ridge material...it is likely that you aren't getting enough temp on it honestly, I think some of it can take almost 700 degrees to work well...most guys who dig and cook it use a kiln to get it cooked right...also different variations will take different temps..