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Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: IrishJay on April 11, 2019, 01:32:45 pm

Title: What Adhesive for Whitetail Antler
Post by: IrishJay on April 11, 2019, 01:32:45 pm
Is TB good for whitetail antler or should I use some sort of epoxy?
Title: Re: What Adhesive for Whitetail Antler
Post by: sleek on April 11, 2019, 01:43:12 pm
That would be Locktite Gel you are looking for. Id bet 75% here would recommend it, the other 20 % never used it and 5% did it wrong.

Seriously,  its the greatest.
Title: Re: What Adhesive for Whitetail Antler
Post by: SLIMBOB on April 11, 2019, 01:53:47 pm
+1 sleek.  Locktite.
Title: Re: What Adhesive for Whitetail Antler
Post by: PatM on April 11, 2019, 02:40:51 pm
G flex Epoxy.
Title: Re: What Adhesive for Whitetail Antler
Post by: bjrogg on April 11, 2019, 03:00:29 pm
Jell gorilla super glue
Title: Re: What Adhesive for Whitetail Antler
Post by: Pat B on April 11, 2019, 03:56:41 pm
I've used gel super glue, 2 ton epoxy and TBIII all with good results. One suggestion...the inside of deer antler is pithy so saturate it first and let that dry, flatten the surface again and then glue it down.
Title: Re: What Adhesive for Whitetail Antler
Post by: IrishJay on April 11, 2019, 05:44:13 pm
I was going to ask about presoaking. Do you thin the adhesive at all for better penetration?
Title: Re: What Adhesive for Whitetail Antler
Post by: DC on April 11, 2019, 05:51:50 pm
Use Gel CA and make sure you've got it lined up when you press it on. First time I used CA and antler it was like the glue reached up and grabbed the antler. Glued solid at about 45° to the limb.
Title: Re: What Adhesive for Whitetail Antler
Post by: IrishJay on April 11, 2019, 06:13:02 pm
CA?
Title: Re: What Adhesive for Whitetail Antler
Post by: Pat B on April 11, 2019, 06:16:52 pm
Jay, what I've done is saturate the pith with super glue, let it cure then sand it flat and glue it on. With TBIII you could just add add the glue and let it sink in well then add a little more for glue up. With thinner glue like super glue if you don't pre-treat the antler will starve the glue joint.
 CA is super glue. It's an abbreviation for the chemical.
Title: Re: What Adhesive for Whitetail Antler
Post by: IrishJay on April 11, 2019, 06:29:00 pm
Ah chemistry never was my strong suit.
Title: Re: What Adhesive for Whitetail Antler
Post by: Rākau on April 11, 2019, 10:33:52 pm
What PatB said. CA = Cyanoacrylate

I have also used normal, runny, cheap CA with good results. but will get some Locktite gel at some stage.
Title: Re: What Adhesive for Whitetail Antler
Post by: gutpile on April 12, 2019, 06:40:43 am
I have always used gorilla glue.. the expansion type original... never had a tip come off ....gut
Title: Re: What Adhesive for Whitetail Antler
Post by: SLIMBOB on April 12, 2019, 06:48:33 am
I like the gel for overlays, but I have used Hotstuff which is very thin like water.  I keep it for filling cracks and knots, but it it really very good glue if you want something thinner.
Title: Re: What Adhesive for Whitetail Antler
Post by: IrishJay on April 12, 2019, 12:19:16 pm
So CA sounds like the way to go. I'm assuming I just file the tip as flat as possible without violating the ring and then sand the cut side of the antler to match up to it.
Title: Re: What Adhesive for Whitetail Antler
Post by: DC on April 12, 2019, 12:30:44 pm
You can violate the ring under the overlay. Take a look at the angle of the overlays on some of the bows posted here. And as flat as you can, no wobble :D
Title: Re: What Adhesive for Whitetail Antler
Post by: IrishJay on April 12, 2019, 02:28:55 pm
Gotcha
Title: Re: What Adhesive for Whitetail Antler
Post by: rps3 on April 13, 2019, 05:06:36 am
I have experienced 2 failures with ca glue, one I did and the other was a trade bow. Post inspection looked like a starved glue joint. I always sized joints when using titebond, but wasnt doing it with ca. Now I do.
Title: Re: What Adhesive for Whitetail Antler
Post by: Pat B on April 13, 2019, 05:13:34 am
I try to always size both glue surfaces to insure good glue coverage. I think over tightening clamps adds to starved glue joints. I use rubber bands wrapped around the overlays and bow tips instead of clamps. I don't think you can wrap rubber bands too tightly.
Title: Re: What Adhesive for Whitetail Antler
Post by: rps3 on April 13, 2019, 08:10:34 pm
Pat, I use old bike innertubes, but I bet they can be overtightened. Might have to give gumbands a try.
Title: Re: What Adhesive for Whitetail Antler
Post by: Pat B on April 13, 2019, 09:31:24 pm
I buy rubber bands(about 1/4") at Wal Mart($1.97) cut it and use it to wrap the glued overlay. You can really control where the pressure goes it will fit to any contour and I doubt you could wrap it too tight.
Title: Re: What Adhesive for Whitetail Antler
Post by: Stickhead on April 14, 2019, 01:33:41 pm
I’ve been using the gel super glue, too.  This one violated the heck out of the rings.  I sanded both surfaces smooth, scored some grooves into both surfaces with a pocket knife, coated both with glue and squeezed it in place with my hands for a minute or so.  This one’s a 75# bow that I’ve used exclusively for the past two years with no problems.
...Tom

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Title: Re: What Adhesive for Whitetail Antler
Post by: IrishJay on April 14, 2019, 05:01:07 pm
Thanks for the pointer guys. I had some loc-tite brand brush on CA on hand so I used that. As test I attacked it with a scraper and a pair of pliers,  suffice to say that sucker is on there.