Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: Eric Krewson on May 04, 2019, 06:34:09 am
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I made a bow for a great friend several years ago, she is one of the best shots in the country and won at Cloverdale with it the last two years.
She sent me a message yesterday that while unstringing the bow she did something stupid and broke the bows tip. I assumed it would be an easy fix until I saw the pictures, before looking too closely at the pictures I told her I could probably fix it. I am sure I can fix it even if the bow has to have a new limb but I am going to try to preserve the original limb if possible.
All the naysayers will chime in with "firewood, I would trash it and so forth" but sometimes a bow is so special it needs to be saved at all costs, this is such a bow.
I am going to glue everything back together first with unibond, then remove the exteriors and sandwich the old wood with new laminations to reinforce it. I will bend my lams on the same caul I bent the static on.
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Yup, that sounds like a solid plan. I've V spliced a new tip on to a bows before no prob'.
I'm a great believer in repairing good bows :)
Be sure to show us the end product :)
Del
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Is the black line on the first picture an insert or a crack? I don't see the same on the other side so I'm guessing crack :D
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The black line is the glue line of a previous overly I added to reinforce the tip because the limb cracked when I bent the curve. After I removed the cracked wood there wasn't enough wood left so I glued more on.
Here is another lost cause tip repair, as I was stringing this bow the string slipped off one side of the nock and split the limb from the tip 6" down into the limb. I let this one sit in my broken bow pile for years and decided to attempt a fix. Thousands of arrows later this bow is still going strong.
This repair was done with urac, man I wish we could still get this glue.
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I'd say its fixable. You have a solid plan, go for it, I'd wish you luck, but your knowledge and skill surpasses luck.
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Another footnote on Julia's bow; last year she was at a major shoot, they had a shoot down of the top women competitors. When they called her name to be in the shoot off all she had with her was her osage selfbow and wood arrows, she was shooting against some of the top lady shooters in the country who were shooting the latest high tech DAS recurves and carbon arrows.
She beat all of these high tec gals with her lowly osage bow and wood arrows then walked away with the first prize purse.
That is one reason her bow is so special.
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Great story
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Ouch, looks like it got slammed in the car door.
I'm sure you'll put a fantastic fix on that one Eric. Probably won't be the last prize purse it'll win.
Bjrogg
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Great story. I wish you the best with it. If anyone can fix it, you can. Jawge
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My bow was a good one but the person holding it made the difference.
Julia has won a couple of these;
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They usually do Eric. Still alway amazes me how some people can hit everything from anywhere and others can't come close.
Bjrogg
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Im like alot of other people curious how she broke it .l to wouldnt trash it .make it shoot again she no dought has the mental fortitude not to let it bother her in regards to a repaired bow.
it would be fantastic to win again with that bow.
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They usually do Eric. Still alway amazes me how some people can hit everything from anywhere and others can't come close.
Bjrogg
Unless something is wrong with their eyes, I believe it's impossible for a person to not be a decent shot. I think most just aren't aware of matching arrows to the bow. Other than that, consistent form ( no matter how bad it looks ) and overthinking.
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Depends on your view of decent. Some people just have poor hand eye coordination (yours truly) and are not good at things that require timing and muscle control. I think it's the timing that is the big thing. I can use tools as well or better than most but put a ball in my hand and I'm useless. Always the last to be picked when choosing up sides. it's like most things in life, people that can do things can't understand why everyone can't do them. The phrase "If I can do it, anyone can do it" comes to mind. Hate that phrase. I'm sure that with proper coaching I, in time, could become satisfactory but never better than that. When I started this, about 5 years ago I would shoot about 100-110 in a round of 300. Now I'm up to about 130-140. So I'm either a lousy shot or just a whole lot more honest than other people. ;D ;D
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Unfortunately those 10 000 hours of practice books (Guitar Zero) have led a lot of people to believe they can do anything they set their mind to.
Often the biggest pushers of this are people who don't actually practice what they are preaching but they '"know they could if they wanted to".
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I've got a friend, fellow bow maker, who is just gifted at shooting. Hand him your bow and a handful of arrows and he will shoot it well. Any reasonable distance. I will never shoot that well. Let me take 6 months off and I have to start all over. I can work to improve my shooting over time. He's just a natural at it that I will never be.
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Sorry Eric, this kinda went sideways. I do want to see the gory details of the fix :D :D
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That’s fixable for sure! I had a old bow I built for a friend split the horn overlay and pulled the string into the bow a good 6”. I was able to epoxy and glue a new overlay on.
Shooting bows is like golf or playing pool to me, some days I think I finally figured it out, other days
not so much!
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My uncle always said you could tell how much a man wasted his youth by how well he played pool ;D ;D
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the thing about archery,, its funny ,, you could practice 10,000 hours and be worse than when you started,, (-S
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Doesn’t help when I shoot a different bow every time I go out!
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I’ve had those days, I’m worse at the end than the beginning. And yes, a different bow every time just keeps it...interesting. 🤪
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Yes Eric, definitely a special bow, and a special archer. I have followed this web site long enough to know that if anyone can fix this bow it would be you. Please show us the repaired bow when our have it done.
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About ability; when I got out of the Army I took the aptitude tests at the state employment office, I thought putting the peg in the round hole was almost an insult to my ability, but....one of the exercises was stacking small washers on a vertical peg. The well dressed ivy league looking guy next to me couldn't put one washer on the peg, he lacked the hand eye coordination, I finished the exercise in a matter of seconds.
It was then that I realized that ability and intelligence are multifaceted, we are all gifted in some areas and idiots in others.
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There was a guy I went to school with for most of my school years. Lets just say he was a sub standard student. Teachers thought he had no future. He could run a backhoe like no one else I've seen. First guy I ever saw load and unload a hoe into the back of a dump truck. Almost had a sixth sense about copper pipes. He could somehow feel that there was a water pipe in the next scoop and stop. It was my first years with the telephone company. He was the contractor with the hoe and I was in the ditch with a shovel. ;D So much for good grades.
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Eric, I remember that test! At least the peg and the hole in the washers were both round - luckily, I got a left handed set! (lol). Did pretty well on it, but wound up in the "people" business as a veteran's employment rep and training program rep. More fun and they paid me to listen and talk! Trying to make a deaf guy into a telephone customer service rep was putting a square peg into a round hole! By all means, post the "fix along", we can all learn from your expertise.
DC, practice makes perfect, only if it the right practice! At least, you got to run the shovel!, had a guy once we wouldn't even let near a shovel, and he was a veteran! Had some success stories, too!
I managed to hit my 3D turkey 5 out of 6 arrows, 2 times out of 6 sets - pulled the last shot both times (10 yards) (SH) :G >:D! Back to the range! Here, Turkey, here, Turkey!
Hawkdancer
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Nice story and I am sure you can fix that! Would be awesome if she wins again with the repaired bow!
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The first step will be to glue all the splintered pieces together, none of these pieces will be in the final fix but I intend to make a solid surface to glue the first lam to on the belly followed by grinding off all the splintered wood and gluing the second lam to the back mating it with the previously added new wood.
I have found string to be the best clamp for holding random round pieces in place, this bow tip is now more than 1/4" wide, I get its strength from added depth.