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Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: leonwood on September 24, 2019, 08:57:45 am

Title: Osage flatbow
Post by: leonwood on September 24, 2019, 08:57:45 am
Did not post a lot of bows the last few months. Did not stop making them though! Just did not have the time to take proper pictures and write something about them. Will try to photograph my latest bows in the following weeks though...

This stave came from a belly split of some larger staves. It had a dogleg on one end and the other end was the beginning of a forked branch with lots of black rotten stuff in between. Big grain swirl at this spot. To top it the rings are extremely thin so naturally I was looking forward to the challenge! (pics below)

The first plan was a straight pyramid bow because of the weird wooptidoohs at both ends of the stave. I started with roughing out to pretty close bow dimensions so I could heat the dogleg out before chasing a ring.
Heating the dogleg straight worked really well but chasing a ring took forever on this thing! I think I had to start over about 6 times. Everyime accidentally scraping to the next ring. Got it done in the end and started tillering.
Had it to brace quite fast and setup for heat treating. My heat treating caul functions as a straightening caul at the same time so after heat treating the bow came out a lot straighter as I expected. It looked good enough to flip the tips so I could not resist;-)

Added some laburnum tip overlays and arrow pass and finished the tiller.

Started shooting it a bit as I always do to check if the tiller changes. Tiller was fine but an unavoidable crack on the side which I superglued opened up a bit. I really don't like wraps on my bow so I drilled two short pins in and glued it back together.

Early/latewood ratio isn't all that so the bow looks rather thick for it's poundage but it shoots really well and did not take a lot of set. Shot a few 3d competitions with it already and it holds up really good!

Specs:
wood: Osage from Hungary
Draw weight: 48@28
Length: 64" ntn
Tip overlays: Laburnum
Handle wrap: Leather from old jacket
String: 8 strand fast flight


// stave ends and ring count
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48787403508_32b534750b_b.jpg)


// profiles
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48787403743_d639492301_b.jpg)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48787403283_1fb466dd87_b.jpg)


// braced
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48787765426_189d6c849e_b.jpg)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48787405008_1f2cc6878f_b.jpg)


// glued split
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48787403978_126c0bfa86_b.jpg)


// details
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48787916642_26a736bae3_b.jpg)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48787916167_2b5ceba3e4_b.jpg)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48787915087_86113a057d_b.jpg)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48787913892_1be374c320_b.jpg)


// fd
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48787403173_f1ff714d43_b.jpg)
Title: Re: Osage flatbow
Post by: Pat B on September 24, 2019, 09:07:31 am
 I love the shape and the tiller. Your finish work is very nice too. I am concerned with the crack but hopefully your fix will work well.  :OK
Title: Re: Osage flatbow
Post by: DC on September 24, 2019, 10:11:57 am
Nice job, you'd never know there was any woop-de-dos in that. :D
Title: Re: Osage flatbow
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on September 24, 2019, 11:38:07 am
Pretty.....simple.....bow. Just my style.
Title: Re: Osage flatbow
Post by: Eric Krewson on September 24, 2019, 11:41:05 am
Very, very nice, I am impressed, I would wrap that crack just to be on the safe side.
Title: Re: Osage flatbow
Post by: Hawkdancer on September 24, 2019, 11:51:01 am
Nice!  I don't know enough to make technical comments, but it looks good!
Hawkdancer
Title: Re: Osage flatbow
Post by: bradsmith2010 on September 24, 2019, 12:40:34 pm
that looks great,, congrats  :)
Title: Re: Osage flatbow
Post by: gutpile on September 24, 2019, 01:07:04 pm
nice job... looks sweet... gut
Title: Re: Osage flatbow
Post by: Will B on September 24, 2019, 01:21:29 pm
Very nice bow!  I love the handle and fades. Great job on a difficult stave
Title: Re: Osage flatbow
Post by: Deerhunter21 on September 24, 2019, 01:27:02 pm
how does pins fix the crack?
Title: Re: Osage flatbow
Post by: dantolin on September 25, 2019, 03:17:20 am
Cool bow! Nice transitions and tiller!
Title: Re: Osage flatbow
Post by: Hilongbow on September 25, 2019, 05:01:38 am
Sweet profile
Title: Re: Osage flatbow
Post by: bjrogg on September 25, 2019, 05:46:22 am
Thanks for taking the time to post Leonwood. Especially since it's one of those problem child bows that gives us some trouble. I'm curious how the wooden pins do helping hold split together. I know they held our old barns together and were very strong. This is obviously a different application. I think it has a good chance between the glue and the pegs.
Bjrogg
Title: Re: Osage flatbow
Post by: leonwood on September 25, 2019, 06:47:24 am
Thanks for the compliments guys! Somehow I always pic the problematic staves from my pile first. My "really nice staves" pile is getting bigger and bigger ;D

About that split and the pins. I figured it opened up because of the bending of the limb trying to pull it open. I figured drilling those pins in I devide the pulling strength on the whole splinter in three parts. Kind of hard to explain my thinking really, it is totally possible that it does not make sense at all :o I will let you know if it let's go again!
Title: Re: Osage flatbow
Post by: Hamish on September 25, 2019, 05:47:18 pm
I like your style Leon. Sweet bow, everything's done just right. It looks beautiful.
Title: Re: Osage flatbow
Post by: simk on September 26, 2019, 02:11:39 am
Man, how I always love your handle sections! If you would do handle-section-classes I'd sign in immediately. And of course the rest of the bow is also georgeous. cheers
Title: Re: Osage flatbow
Post by: M2A on September 26, 2019, 06:01:26 am
Nice save on that one. Great looking F/D as always.
Mike 
Title: Re: Osage flatbow
Post by: Santanasaur on September 26, 2019, 06:34:08 am
Another beauty,  Leonwood. You’re definitely developing a style, I always recognize your bows on other sites as distinctly yours
Title: Re: Osage flatbow
Post by: burchett.donald on September 26, 2019, 06:59:04 am
       
    Nice build...I really like to see some fade movement like you have here...Fades play a big part in correct tiller and performance and you have this incorporated in your bow...Nice balance also
                                                                                              Don
                                                                                             
Title: Re: Osage flatbow
Post by: leonwood on September 26, 2019, 07:10:10 am
Thanks for the compliments again!

    Nice build...I really like to see some fade movement like you have here...Fades play a big part in correct tiller and performance and you have this incorporated in your bow...Nice balance also
                                                                                              Don                                                                               

Thanks and I agree! I make my fades quite long but always make sure they work. The hardes part with long fades and flipped tips is to make sure your whole limb works. It is so easy to overshoot and create a hinge at the fade or just below the recurves.
Works wonders for keeping the set low though!

Title: Re: Osage flatbow
Post by: SLIMBOB on September 26, 2019, 07:44:13 am
Clean and easy.  Like that a bunch.
Title: Re: Osage flatbow
Post by: Bayou Ben on September 26, 2019, 08:23:53 am
Very nice Leon.  Great looking tiller!
Title: Re: Osage flatbow
Post by: Parnell on September 26, 2019, 12:23:18 pm
Looks great! Beautiful profile. The
Title: Re: Osage flatbow
Post by: upstatenybowyer on September 26, 2019, 07:49:41 pm
Like Pearly said.  8)