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Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: Parnell on February 21, 2020, 07:35:27 pm

Title: Dealing with Pin Knots
Post by: Parnell on February 21, 2020, 07:35:27 pm: I picked up micro chisels and a gouge for inletting on flintlock projects, but they sure did make short work of cleaning up a difficult pin knot spot on a bow’s back.

Just thought I’d throw this up.
Title: Re: Dealing with Pin Knots
Post by: aznboi3644 on February 21, 2020, 09:14:29 pm: I have no idea what I’m looking at lol.
Title: Re: Dealing with Pin Knots
Post by: bentstick54 on February 22, 2020, 07:26:44 am: Those look perfect for the job.
Title: Re: Dealing with Pin Knots
Post by: PatM on February 22, 2020, 08:04:52 am: I deal with them by never using wood with knots of any sort. ;)
Title: Re: Dealing with Pin Knots
Post by: bradsmith2010 on February 22, 2020, 08:31:42 am: Most of my Osage has a few trouble spots,,.those look handy
Title: Re: Dealing with Pin Knots
Post by: Pat B on February 22, 2020, 08:35:40 am: Aznboi, those are pin knots left by small branches or on osage thorns. You deal with them just like with a knot, only smaller.
Title: Re: Dealing with Pin Knots
Post by: Selfbowman on February 22, 2020, 08:50:01 am: I try to deal with them like Pat M. Arvin
Title: Re: Dealing with Pin Knots
Post by: bradsmith2010 on February 22, 2020, 08:55:43 am: Its hard to find a perfect stave (lol)
Title: Re: Dealing with Pin Knots
Post by: PatM on February 22, 2020, 09:04:24 am: Quote from: bradsmith2010 on February 22, 2020, 08:55:43 am
Its hard to find a perfect stave (lol)

Not where I live.
Title: Re: Dealing with Pin Knots
Post by: Parnell on February 22, 2020, 09:13:37 am: This will be a 47” shorty for my nephew who is turning into a good hunter at 9 years old having the luxury of being raised on ranch land. He’s already taken deer, turkey, hogs, gators, ducks, snakes, etc. It’s a toothpick of a piece of Osage. I’d like to see him take something significant with it, so I’m not going to make it too light weight. He’ll figure it out. (-S
Title: Re: Dealing with Pin Knots
Post by: aznboi3644 on February 22, 2020, 04:04:03 pm: Are you chasing a ring and using those micro tools to scrape around the knots?
Title: Re: Dealing with Pin Knots
Post by: Will B on February 22, 2020, 04:09:57 pm: Thanks for posting this. I just bought some micro chisels for a Jim Chambers muzzleloader build and never thought about using them around pin knots. Should be another good option.
Title: Re: Dealing with Pin Knots
Post by: George Tsoukalas on February 22, 2020, 06:04:35 pm: The ticket in making bows is knowing when to switch tools. Jawge
Title: Re: Dealing with Pin Knots
Post by: SLIMBOB on February 22, 2020, 06:42:45 pm: I don’t mind knots at all. Certainly easier not to have to fart with them, but they don’t bother me much. All in what you are after. I like the character aspect more than the flat out performance I guess.
Title: Re: Dealing with Pin Knots
Post by: JW_Halverson on February 22, 2020, 08:11:04 pm: Quote from: aznboi3644 on February 22, 2020, 04:04:03 pm
Are you chasing a ring and using those micro tools to scrape around the knots?

Yup, that's exactly what he is doing.
Title: Re: Dealing with Pin Knots
Post by: George Tsoukalas on February 23, 2020, 07:14:37 am: When I tiller an area with a cluster of pin knots or a knotted area I try to leave that area slightly flatter than the rest of the limb.
What!
"You mean you don't look for a picture perfect tiller on every bow?"
Nope. :)
Jawge
Title: Re: Dealing with Pin Knots
Post by: Eric Krewson on February 23, 2020, 07:29:01 am: I had a tutorial on making a pin knot scraper out of concrete nails, after pin knot scrapers I made a bunch of specialized sharp tools for inletting parts into my flintlock builds. Photobucket killed my pictures. I have redone the pictures on the Trad Gang but it is a thread someone else started.

Here is one;
Title: Re: Dealing with Pin Knots
Post by: Eric Krewson on February 23, 2020, 07:31:41 am: Side view;
Title: Re: Dealing with Pin Knots
Post by: Eric Krewson on February 23, 2020, 07:40:31 am: The pictures are touchy this morning I have to post one per post.

Here is handful of scrapers and chisels I made from concrete nails, each has a special purpose.
Title: Re: Dealing with Pin Knots
Post by: Parnell on February 23, 2020, 09:26:38 am: Really cool Eric. Thanks for the post.
Title: Re: Dealing with Pin Knots
Post by: bradsmith2010 on February 23, 2020, 09:30:40 am: Do u have to heat the nail yo do that
Title: Re: Dealing with Pin Knots
Post by: Hawkdancer on February 23, 2020, 11:00:46 am: +1, Jawge! Very nice set of tools, Eric. They look versatile! Using the right tool makes a huge difference!
Hawkdancer
Title: Re: Dealing with Pin Knots
Post by: Eric Krewson on February 23, 2020, 01:53:25 pm: Pretty easy; heat the nail to red hot, hammer the end flat, file and bend the flared end to shape, sharpen, heat again and quench, install in a handle.

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