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Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: Swampman on March 05, 2020, 08:07:00 pm

Title: Roadside find
Post by: Swampman on March 05, 2020, 08:07:00 pm
The last two days I drove past a section of a County Road where I noticed a bunch of trees cut down. About half of the trees cut had all been reduced to chips.  I am sure the highway crew will be back to finish chipping the rest but I salvaged one log yesterday and one today. 

The log yesterday I figured out was black locust.  It was an 80 inch log that looked straight as can be but when I split it last night it had a really bad twist.  I will probably only get 2 bows out of that log so that was a little disappointing. 

Today I stopped and picked up a 75 inch log that was 9 inches in diameter.  I about passed out loading that log into my vehicle.  It was very heavy.  When I got home I split this log.  I just about passed out again splitting this log.  I figured out that this log was ironwood.  The 4 splits on the right in the photo are the iron wood.  I should be able to get at least 2 bows out of each of those splits.  The 2 on the left are the black locust.  All in all it was a pretty good find.
Title: Re: Roadside find
Post by: PatM on March 05, 2020, 08:11:26 pm
What type of "Ironwood"?
Title: Re: Roadside find
Post by: Swampman on March 05, 2020, 08:16:40 pm
What type of "Ironwood"?

I guess I only know of one kind in MN which is Ostrya virginiana.  It grows all over in the understory in SE MN. 

I guess another name for this is hop hornbeam.  My tree is book only lists it as ironwood
Title: Re: Roadside find
Post by: PatM on March 05, 2020, 08:25:45 pm
 Can you post a close up?
Title: Re: Roadside find
Post by: Swampman on March 05, 2020, 09:01:05 pm
Here are a couple of close ups. 

Do you think it is something else?
Title: Re: Roadside find
Post by: PatM on March 05, 2020, 09:04:40 pm
That doesn't look like HHB.
Title: Re: Roadside find
Post by: Swampman on March 05, 2020, 09:11:09 pm
It definitely smells like it and splits just like other known iron wood that I have cut before.  It has interlocking grain and a pleasant smell.  I am sure I could be wrong as there were no leaves or branches to help identify it.

What do you think it looks like Pat?
Title: Re: Roadside find
Post by: PatM on March 05, 2020, 09:19:33 pm
Looks more like Elm.
Title: Re: Roadside find
Post by: Swampman on March 05, 2020, 09:26:01 pm
It does split like elm too but the elm I have cut before had a pretty unpleasant smell.  This definitely smells like other iron wood i have cut (that I was able to positively identify with a book in hand). 

Whatever it is I am pretty confident it is bow wood!
Title: Re: Roadside find
Post by: PatM on March 05, 2020, 09:34:21 pm
Elm can smell awful or just like HHB.
Title: Re: Roadside find
Post by: Swampman on March 05, 2020, 09:38:43 pm
The elm I smelled before smelled awful.  I didn't know that it could actually have a pleasant smell so that is good to know. 

I am equally happy if it is elm or ironwood.  A good find either way.  Thanks for your input Pat.
Title: Re: Roadside find
Post by: chamookman on March 06, 2020, 02:07:57 am
That's not HHB - Elm. Bob
Title: Re: Roadside find
Post by: bjrogg on March 06, 2020, 05:01:30 am
I agree. It’s not Hop Hornbeam.  Hop has a very thin flaky bark.
Bjrogg
Title: Re: Roadside find
Post by: Weylin on March 06, 2020, 07:19:51 am
Another vote for not being HHB. The bark definitely doesn't look right.
Title: Re: Roadside find
Post by: bassman on March 06, 2020, 07:26:17 am
It is not American Hornbeam for sure which is some times called Iron wood, muscle wood ,etc,etc. . The Black Locust is a good find. It can lay cut for a long time ,and still make a  very good bow. I made 4 successful bows out of a road side Black Locust find that are some of my best shooters.Good for  you.
Title: Re: Roadside find
Post by: Eric Krewson on March 06, 2020, 07:37:41 am
Hophornbeam bark;

Title: Re: Roadside find
Post by: Marc St Louis on March 06, 2020, 08:08:20 am
Hophornbeam bark;

Now that is a twisted tree.  Be OK for a laminate bow though
Title: Re: Roadside find
Post by: Eric Krewson on March 06, 2020, 01:29:37 pm
Just a stock picture I snatched off google.

I have at least one very large hophornbeam tree down in my woods, lots in the 6" range to 8" range. I have never tried it for bows because I have so much osage stockpiled.
Title: Re: Roadside find
Post by: DC on March 06, 2020, 01:34:16 pm
It's a tough life ;D ;D
Title: Re: Roadside find
Post by: M2A on March 06, 2020, 05:24:11 pm
Nice haul Swampman! Sapwood looks pretty thick in that locust, that ought to mean its got some thick rings for easy chasing.
Mike
Title: Re: Roadside find
Post by: Swampman on March 06, 2020, 08:45:48 pm
I didn't really need that wood but I find it awfully hard to drive past logs that I know will be reduced to chips within the next week!