Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Around the Campfire => Topic started by: Pat B on April 02, 2020, 08:26:07 am
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I've noticed over the last few months that tubes(bottles) of super glue(liquid) looks more like gel, thickened in the unopened tube. This is Lock-Tite and Gorilla super glue. Before I started looking at each bottle in the store to be sure, some of what I had at home was solid in the unopened bottle.
I guess my point is...if you do go out and if you do buy super glue check each bottle carefully to be sure it is actually liquid(watery).
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Yup, been caught out by that one! I buy the really cheap multi-pack tubes now, effectively they are a single use tube as they have always dried out by the next time I need them (after opening) but they are something like 65p per tube so I can live with that as I only use ca for closing up splits and shakes.
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Cant believe it! Last night I opened a brand new package/ bottle of Loc Tite and it was gelled up. I have used dozens of bottles and never have seen that. Makes me wonder if they produced a bad batch.
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It's been going on for a few months here, Pearlie. I wonder what the shelf life is on super glue.
I had someone offer me a quart one time. There was no way I could have used that much and I didn't want that quantity sitting around in a glass jar. Sounded like trouble to me :o so I said no.
Stuck, I may try the small tubes next time.
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I get mine from the local hobby shop. The idea being that they have a higher volume so the glue will be fresher. It comes in .5 and 1 oz bottles($8 and $11). Once I get it home it stays open until it's gone. Usually 2-3 months. The bottles have a very narrow tip so there is just a needle sized opening.
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DC, these small bottles of Lock Tite and Gorilla glue super glue all have pin sized holes in them. I get them either from WalMart , Lowes or our local ACE Hdwe.
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Way back when I was playing with racing R/C sailboats the other guys used the little Lock Tite type tubes and they always seemed to be gelled or clogged. I read somewhere about using hobby shop CA because it's fresher. I've never looked back. I guess it costs a little(a lot?) more but it always seems to be good.
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My closest Hobby Lobby is an hour drive away. >:(
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I think CA is in the "dangerous shipping" category too. If our hobby shop closes the nearest is a six hour return trip. Hope it makes it through pandemic.
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I just buy the gel type stuff anyway for overlays and such. What are yall using the liquid for?
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In the UK I buy my low viscosity superglue on line (Ebay). Most of the over the counter stuff is over priced and thick or medium viscosity.
Thick for overlays, thin for cracks etc.
Del
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I get the 10 pack at Harbor Freight for around $3.00, buy several packs at a time and no problems with it yet.
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I use the thin for cracks and knots. I use gel and other glues for tip overlays.
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I use the thin for cracks and knots. I use gel and other glues for tip overlays.
+1
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I think CA is in the "dangerous shipping" category too. If our hobby shop closes the nearest is a six hour return trip. Hope it makes it through pandemic.
Na--I just ordered a 2 ounce bottle online, no problem. I believe most of the superglue in the world is produced by one or two manufacturers, so the only difference from brand to brand is the bottle. I use Bob Smith industries glue- it keeps well.
Also, CA glue is sensitive to heat. so ideally you should store it in the freezer. Some I know store a big bottle in the freezer and transfer .5 oz at a time to a smaller bottle. but if you are keeping your CA in a hot garage, it is going to thicken up.
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I've been using these brands of super glue for years and just recently, in the last year or so it's been getting iffy if I can find liquid super glue that hasn't gelled or been solid in the unopened package in the store.
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Mine is Bob Smith too. Nice to know it's not in the dangerous category. :D
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yep jeff is right....I get my super glue from a basket making company.In 3/4 ounce bottles.That's a fair amount at one time.Sometimes it does'nt get all used up for well over a year.One is super thin and one is gell.They reccommend to keep it in a freezer when not using to last longer.I do and it has worked for me to keep it good.
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I have had better luck with shelf life with the small metal squeeze tubes
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I was fletching some arrows and ran out of duco cement last night, had a bottle of kwick it adhesive that has been in the fridge a few years and it still works great. May start keeping my super glue in the fridge with my unibond.
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Cyanoacrylate is a self catalyzing glue that uses its own ability to make heat to cure the glue. Storing it in the freezer makes it last much longer.
I use it as a wood finish sometimes. Resealable hobby bottles always outlast those metal tubes.
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I've switched to this superglue. I order it from ebay but it's available on different sites. Will H told me about it. It's cheaper per volume than buying loctite at walmart. I get the super thin and it's about the same viscosity as rubbing alcohol. You have to be careful with it. It's so thin it will run everywhere. Last night I glue some work boots back together and before I was done I had pieces of latex gloves stuck all over my boots.
(https://www.amplifiedparts.com/sites/default/files/styles/uc_product/public/uc_products/s-f500_main1_1.png?itok=xGvGUsmD)
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After I buy super glue and epoxy I always store it in my shop refrigerator. I haven't had that problem since I started doing that.
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Eddie, these are gelled or totally solidified in the stores. I just checked again in our local grocery store and most were gelled and none were thin.
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I use the Harbor freight small tubes a lot to seal my sinew wraps and cracks. It’s thin and flows nicely. I’ve had the expensive gorilla and loctite super glue gel up on me so I’m over that.
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I like and use the bob smith glue also. It makes such quick work of nock overlays. It is probably something I am doing wrong, but has anyone else had problems with nock overlays popping off years later on their bows. I have had this happen several times, once was actually on a trade bow that I obviously didnt do. Just recently went back to using tightbond for overlays so this doesnt happen.
I only use 10 strands d97 also.
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I use CA for my tips but I do have a slight mistrust of it. Years ago I worked on the operators switchboard for the telephone company. We had to "temporarily" cover about 20 of strips of indicator lights. We used CA to glue a plastic strip over them. About a couple of months later they all fell of within two days. I've never seen anything like it. The switchboards got quite warm/hot so we always assumed somehow the heat degraded the CA. There is always the possibility that the operators popped them off to screw with our heads but I don't think so. We never used CA for that again.
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The only time superglue is a problem that I have seen is when you haven't prepared the surfaces well. The thin likes to have perfect contact--no voids at all--and you have to watch for grease or oils. I have model airplanes held together with CA that have withstood 15 years of flying in all sorts of temperatures and humidity and G-forces. The only time it let go was after the full power on nose dive into the dirt---Well, it wasn't the glue that let go, but the wood in between, I guess.
I trust CA in the right applications more than about anything. For some stuff, though, it doesn't work at all.
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I use smooth-on for tip overlays.You may have to wait 24 hours naturally or under a heat lamp for 5 to 6 hours but they've never failed me,but as said proper surface prep is critical.Even recurving tips steaming the overlays don't let go.
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Outlaw, Will H got that from where we all got that info...... Gary Davis
He gave us a class on BSI family of CA Glues. There are a wide variety of them for different application, thin, thick, gap filling, etc etc.
Get it online from a host of sellers. Only bad thind about CA on tips is if you drop bow on hard surface and you horn or antler they will blow off almost every time. Take your time and use good two part epoxy like EA 40 or better yet Brownells Acra Glass gel. Not much different than EA 40. The tips not coming off unless you cut them off.
HH~
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For tip overlays I get both sides matching perfectly on a belt sander. I clean both surfaces with acetone before gluing. I wrap them with a bunch of rubber bands. I haven't had one come loose yet.
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Its a good 2nd or third choice. For wood on wood its fair.
It has prolly 1/5th the strength of a gud two part bonding epoxy.
Yep, ive used all kinds of glue on tips. If you were selling them for a biz you'd use what the pros use.
HH~
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I've dropped bows from a balcony 10' onto concrete with overlays put on by smooth-on and they hav'nt popped off.Dumb thing to happen but it did.Fell of guard rail while trying to take picture of bow.Bows have dropped off bow rack onto tiled floor many times too with no pop offs.I missed Gary Davis's class.I've laminated plenty of BBO's and 2 piece take down bows though.