Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: jamesh76 on April 07, 2020, 08:52:58 am
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Not any experiance with staves. I found this in the garage, forgot I started messing with it 4 month ago. Its 64# long. At one time I marked out a bend thru handle
It measures 4 " handle, 4" total fades. It's not very thick. Aboutb1 1/4 " at handle. Looks like pyramid taper to 1/2" nocks. Its 64" long so I could get 62" ntn. Has some.cracks on the belly side running up/down the limb. Not sure how deep they are. Ya think its salvageable?. I think when I taper limbs I will get below cracks. I guess worse case it goes in fire pit?
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if its osage, yeah sure its salvageable. other wood probably not
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I'd say go for it. Start reducing the limbs and see how it goes. If you do a bendy handle bow save the middle 1/3 until both limbs are bending well then bring the bend back towards the middle. It may not work out for you but it will give you experience.
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Make a bow !!!
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You bet...You got enough thickness for a bendy or stiff handled bow if so desired.
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Didnt have much time today working 7pm-7am. I was curious to see what these cracks consisted of. Some were on the edge. .... I started thinking this piece to.somewhat bow shape. I can see lines where I drew the tapers at one time. I believe the wood is still wet. Lots of knots. I need better lighting in my garage above the bench. Also need a better vise. Mines small, I have been using a 2x4 and clamping the wood to the 2x4. Probably need another ratchet clamp.
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I'd say go for it. Start reducing the limbs and see how it goes. If you do a bendy handle bow save the middle 1/3 until both limbs are bending well then bring the bend back towards the middle. It may not work out for you but it will give you experience.
thanks! Ya can't learn if ya don't try. I'm sure I will be full of questions. I read a bunch at work online during down time. Its hit and miss activity as a first responder. Some days busy, some boring.
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Shoot yeah you have to go for it. Tons to learn. Build a caul and play with shaping it into some reflex, perhaps. Maybe "flip the tips".
You look like you have a very good feel for what you are doing, being new.
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...and thanks for your service in these trying times. Be safe, stay healthy. :OK
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Just checking...you do have a solid growth ring chased on the back?
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Shoot yeah you have to go for it. Tons to learn. Build a caul and play with shaping it into some reflex, perhaps. Maybe "flip the tips".
You look like you have a very good feel for what you are doing, being new.
I have thought about that. I will research that as well. currently reading up on steam and bending so that should come together with tips and reflex. i need to check how thick it is, had to take more off the belly than i wanted to get below some cracks. width of profile needs adjusted also. i still think stave is too wet. I may buy a meter so I can check them. Tree was fallen probably 1 year ago and left outside, I found it 6 months ago and cut this piece off then split and sealed. I need to measure limb thickness are now, I'm guessing 5/8 or so. Might end up a kids bow or something if I can get it working.
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Just checking...you do have a solid growth ring chased on the back?
yeah, there is a ring chased on the back. I may go down 1 more before i do much more with this. the ring seems to thin at one end towards the tip in the center of the ring on the back of bow.
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if theres no ring violation it doesnt matter if its thinner in one part or another. so your good.
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I will give it a good look over tomorrow and see what I actually have. I almost threw this piece out a couple months ago. I really need to look at the knots and make sure I didn't violate anything there. This was probably the 3rd or 4th stave I ever attempted to chase a ring on. If I remember this was a piece which didn't split well, I was messing with.
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Looks very doable to me. Just remove what isn’t a bow and put that in the fire pit.
Bjrogg
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Worked on this a bit more today. Had a few splits on edge I needed to get past. I flattened the handle and fade area. Glued a fairly thin piece on the back. May add 1 more. Looking it over. I think I can get 1- 1 1/4" wide handle. Limbs are about 1 1/4" wide at end of fades. Limbs aren't real thick. 3/8 probably. Going too see what I can do for a profile. Pretty sure I will do bendy handle and build up grip and a rest with leather. Looks like it will come out pretty light if I can make something work of it. That's ok though kids can shoot it once I feel its stable and I got a bunch of 25-35 spine 5/16 birch shafts. I will get it on the long string before long and see what I have. May need to shorten it some. As sits will be 62" ntn
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This thing is a mess. Going to see what happens. May have not been dry enough way back whenever I started messing with it. Had no clue what to even do back then. I will use this as a learning step. Several cracks running longways with the limb. I steamed and put on my caul. Had trouble getting it straight. Used dry heat to straighten 1 limb. It's pretty good now. The top limb didnt hold its shape. Will probably try to heat it again on the caul. Then heat the belly. It's going to be pretty light by the time I get tiller done. Its maybe 25# on the long string at 22#. Probably shouldnt of pulled it that far. However, I figured it would break. Osage some tough stuff.
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Finally broke it. Seemed really dry. May have not let it rehydrate long enough after heat bending. Learned alot on this little torn up stave. Broke across the bow about 7" out from the fade. There was a knot there also.
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Looks great to me! I think you could real easy make anything you want. I wouldn't worry about linear drying checks on the belly much unless they dove off to the edge. Put some backset in it when you line up the tips and heat treat the belly all in one shot. 64 inches tip to tip with overlays can easily achieve 63 1/4 inches between the knocks. With a four inch handle and 1.25 inch fades, you can have a stiff handle no problem. Good lookin stick