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Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: Russ on June 01, 2020, 11:32:38 am

Title: I made an oopsie on a handle could really use some help.
Post by: Russ on June 01, 2020, 11:32:38 am
so i wanted to glue on a handle to my hhb bow because i wanted more material to shape it and make a good handle. well I F***ing screwed it up i think. and im very frusturated about it. i finally got the glue line right, but then i didnt took it off, then got it right and now im gonna need to take it off again. I used a piece of wood that has the grain running up and down when looking at the side of it and then side to side when looking from the top (belly of the bow). and i realized that if the fade bends where my bow fade meets my glue on handle piece... well its gonna split at the grain/growth rind of the handle.... i wanted to get this bow done so i could shoot with my cousin who leaves in a couple days and i might not be able to anymore if this takes too long.

any ideas on how to save this or should i just put a new handle on.
Title: Re: I made an oopsie on a handle could really use some help.
Post by: Russ on June 01, 2020, 11:45:33 am
heres an example
Title: Re: I made an oopsie on a handle could really use some help.
Post by: willie on June 01, 2020, 11:56:50 am
have you done any tillering on the bow yet?

I think I understand the sketch, but a pic would be better.

guessing your handle piece came off the end of a board?
Title: Re: I made an oopsie on a handle could really use some help.
Post by: silent sniper on June 01, 2020, 11:59:54 am
The grain of the glued on handle should not make much difference as long as it is not bending. If your glued on handle is bending than it is probably going to pop off at some point regardless of grain orientation. I hope this helps
-Taylor
Title: Re: I made an oopsie on a handle could really use some help.
Post by: bownarra on June 01, 2020, 12:14:55 pm
Grind it off and glue another piece on.
End grain has very very little ability to resist any bending whatsoever.
It all depends on how far down the fades this piece 'starts'.
Title: Re: I made an oopsie on a handle could really use some help.
Post by: DC on June 01, 2020, 01:18:51 pm
First thing my Dad taught me is that end grain is weak. The grain should always run with the the longest dimension.
Title: Re: I made an oopsie on a handle could really use some help.
Post by: gutpile on June 01, 2020, 01:39:42 pm
if I am reading pic right and the handle is above fade on bow I don't see an issue ... grain orientation isn't critical on a non bending handle... and if the fade is below handle glue line it should not pop off either.. so if I am reading your drawing right.. should be fine... gut
Title: Re: I made an oopsie on a handle could really use some help.
Post by: BowEd on June 01, 2020, 02:01:06 pm
On a handle of a stiff handled bow you have 2 things...the fades and the grip.Are you talking added wood to just the grip?If so no issue should arise.
Title: Re: I made an oopsie on a handle could really use some help.
Post by: medicinewheel on June 04, 2020, 12:20:44 am
Grind it off and glue another piece on.
End grain has very very little ability to resist any bending whatsoever.
It all depends on how far down the fades this piece 'starts'.

X2
Title: Re: I made an oopsie on a handle could really use some help.
Post by: Eric Krewson on June 04, 2020, 06:51:55 am
Years ago I put a handle or two on like that, I don't think I had any problems but I don't remember for sure. Mainly I didn't like the way it looked.
Title: Re: I made an oopsie on a handle could really use some help.
Post by: PatM on June 04, 2020, 06:57:29 am
It will take you no time to just grind it off and glue on a proper piece.
Title: Re: I made an oopsie on a handle could really use some help.
Post by: Russ on June 04, 2020, 10:05:03 am
Well, I just went with it and it turned out good!
Title: Re: I made an oopsie on a handle could really use some help.
Post by: Hawkdancer on June 04, 2020, 10:26:03 am
Looks like it turned out ok!  Nice tips overlays, too.
Hawkdancer
Title: Re: I made an oopsie on a handle could really use some help.
Post by: Eric Krewson on June 04, 2020, 11:36:49 am
I definitely wouldn't use that grain orientation for nock overlays, unlike the handle they have a lot of strain on them and will will separate at the grain, been there done that.
Title: Re: I made an oopsie on a handle could really use some help.
Post by: DC on June 04, 2020, 12:54:19 pm
I definitely wouldn't use that grain orientation for nock overlays, unlike the handle they have a lot of strain on them and will will separate at the grain, been there done that.

+1 tried it, broke it, replaced it.