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Title: Snake coming soon!!!
Post by: Selfbowman on June 22, 2020, 02:26:09 pm
Got this stave at OJAM gathering. Here we go.
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Post by: Selfbowman on June 22, 2020, 02:49:56 pm
Ok. 67”45@28 -9”handle , mass 23 oz. pyramid. I am going to Try to duplicate this bow in a snake. Check for shock, mass weight, speed and what ever else y’all can think of.
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Post by: Selfbowman on June 22, 2020, 02:51:03 pm
Here is the pyramid beside it.
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Post by: Will B on June 22, 2020, 03:01:19 pm
That’s gonna be Awesome!!  Good luck with it
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Post by: Selfbowman on June 22, 2020, 03:30:33 pm
Laid out
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Post by: bassman on June 22, 2020, 03:57:32 pm
Would you look at that. Nice. Is that a new ,and up and coming flight bow Arvin? That will make a real conversation piece were ever you shoot it.Hope every thing works out for you.
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Post by: Pat B on June 22, 2020, 03:59:26 pm
That's gonna be fun and looks like nice rings too. Good luck.   :OK
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Post by: Selfbowman on June 22, 2020, 04:05:20 pm
Roughed out!
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Post by: Selfbowman on June 22, 2020, 04:07:46 pm
Bassman we are going to find out how much difference there is . Now for reflex.
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Post by: bassman on June 22, 2020, 04:13:13 pm
Good. The bow is looking awesome so far. Post your findings when your done ,and shoot the bow. Good luck.
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Post by: osage outlaw on June 22, 2020, 04:32:24 pm
Good looking stave Arvin!
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Post by: Selfbowman on June 22, 2020, 04:50:52 pm
On caul.
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Post by: Selfbowman on June 22, 2020, 04:51:35 pm
Side
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Post by: HH~ on June 22, 2020, 05:22:10 pm
Cookin the Hedge!

Looks like a good chunk of Osage. Think you can keep it that thin in those turns?

HH~
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Post by: Selfbowman on June 22, 2020, 05:34:02 pm
Well I don’t know Hedge. This is my first snake. Lack of patches will tell I recon.  ;D >
Arvin
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Post by: Selfbowman on June 22, 2020, 07:30:40 pm
This snake likes heat!
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Post by: Selfbowman on June 22, 2020, 07:34:38 pm
Top
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Post by: HH~ on June 22, 2020, 07:47:41 pm
I have not made any really snake bows. Watched a bunch done and it looks like in turns in working part of limb is where it makes or breaks. You prolly got a piece with great ratio if i know you. So, prolly wont be an issue.

Very interested to see what you find in that character piece of wood.

HH~
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Post by: Selfbowman on June 22, 2020, 08:10:00 pm
Quiz!!!!
Who did this first and when. Should that line assist in tillering. And if so spill the beans.
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Post by: bradsmith2010 on June 22, 2020, 10:30:35 pm
looking great,, :)
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Post by: Selfbowman on June 23, 2020, 08:02:57 am
Back sanded and honed.
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Post by: Selfbowman on June 23, 2020, 05:18:50 pm
Tip overlays
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Post by: Selfbowman on June 23, 2020, 08:22:18 pm
On the long string
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Post by: Bob Barnes on June 23, 2020, 08:29:04 pm
can't wait to see it bending Arvin...that's a great looking tillering tree as well...  :OK
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Post by: Selfbowman on June 23, 2020, 09:56:55 pm
That’s my 50# record bow traced at brace. You get it braced and it matches that profile and you are pretty much done. Arvin
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Post by: Selfbowman on June 23, 2020, 10:01:56 pm
It’s fifty at 27! Looks good tonight . Check it tomorrow . If I still like it well then it is going to be 50@27!
Arvin
Title: Re: Snake coming soon!!!
Post by: Selfbowman on June 24, 2020, 09:20:06 am
Bob this is as close as I can get for the moment. Shot it . Pretty nice. Testing coming soon.
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Post by: Bob Barnes on June 24, 2020, 10:01:43 am
that's cool... the bottom limb being a little stiff may well come around after shooting it in Arvin...you know that...you've made a lot more bows than I have.  I have never made a snaky bow that really performed as well as a 'perfect' piece, but if it's close and snaky...be VERY happy and enjoy the people always admiring it.   :OK
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Post by: rps3 on June 24, 2020, 10:13:39 pm
Pretty cool. Following along, and looking forward to seeing how it turns out.
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Post by: Selfbowman on June 25, 2020, 09:02:21 am
True Oil and humidity just don’t like each other.
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Post by: Bob Barnes on June 25, 2020, 09:37:21 am
that's OK Arvin...you will hide that true oil when you put a nice snakeskin on it... :)
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Post by: Selfbowman on June 25, 2020, 10:56:24 am
Ain’t happening as long as I own it Bob.
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Post by: sleek on June 25, 2020, 11:04:19 am
That’s my 50# record bow traced at brace. You get it braced and it matches that profile and you are pretty much done. Arvin

I use this exact concept. It works darn near perfect. The only thing to add is that I try to get the draw weight to match at half draw, before ever going further.
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Post by: Selfbowman on June 25, 2020, 01:18:12 pm
I only tried that Sleek  cause I new that one was right. Most all bows 67-69” come close to that profile once tillered. I am still learning tiller on the tree. Looks like a helpful way to get more exact tiller. The ones with the grid are hard for me to keep up with. To many lines . Arvin
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Post by: Selfbowman on June 25, 2020, 04:28:24 pm
Ok bow needs about 6 more coats of true oil but here are the results. Both bows came in at 27oz. Both 50@28” 67” ntn.  Both pyramid in limb design. The straight one is a bit wider at the fades. The snake took 1” more set than the straight one. The snake shot 5 shots between 171-176 FPS , the straight shot 5 shots 177-180. Arrow weight 435 gr
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Post by: Selfbowman on June 25, 2020, 04:47:47 pm
Full draw pic
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Post by: Selfbowman on June 25, 2020, 04:50:34 pm
Side by side pic
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Post by: bentstick54 on June 25, 2020, 04:56:21 pm
Pair of nice looking bows right there. Not much difference in performance. Good job and bringing that snake to life.
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Post by: Selfbowman on June 25, 2020, 05:02:42 pm
Oh left out one important thing shock!!! The snake was not bad in shock but had a tad more than the straight bow.
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Post by: silent sniper on June 25, 2020, 05:53:59 pm
Awesome job on a great pair of bows 👍🏻
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Post by: bentstick54 on June 25, 2020, 06:54:02 pm
I bet it would be pretty tough to get both those limbs in prefect timing as different as they are. If all you got is a little hand shock, I would say you done good.
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Post by: Bob Barnes on June 25, 2020, 06:55:15 pm
Arvin ,considering the limbs being more narrow, I think that piece of snaky wood is doing an excellent job, as did the bowyer that made it.   :OK  I'd trade you a perfectly straight Mojam Clout shoot bow for it once you get tired of it.  :)
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Post by: DC on June 25, 2020, 07:53:44 pm
very nice. I've often wondered how much snakiness would affect the speed. I'm glad you didn't skin it ;D ;D
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Post by: Selfbowman on June 25, 2020, 07:55:53 pm
Handle pic
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Post by: Selfbowman on June 26, 2020, 07:45:01 am
Ok final test. Into a 3-5 mile wind. Shot two of my broadhead flight arrows 200yds and 210 yds. Probably has 220 or so in it. One of those arrows went 247 with d97 from my 50@28 flight bow. Better results than I thought from a snake. Maybe a sneaky snake. Arvin
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Post by: Will B on June 26, 2020, 08:08:11 am
Those are two beautiful bows!!  Great job!
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Post by: Bob Barnes on June 26, 2020, 08:44:52 am
those are great numbers for any bow Arvin ...  "ya' done good"   :OK
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Post by: Fox on June 26, 2020, 09:38:40 am
you done good.

+1

-Fox
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Post by: sleek on June 26, 2020, 10:42:24 am
Ok final test. Into a 3-5 mile wind. Shot two of my broadhead flight arrows 200yds and 210 yds. Probably has 220 or so in it. One of those arrows went 247 with d97 from my 50@28 flight bow. Better results than I thought from a snake. Maybe a sneaky snake. Arvin

What grain is that arrow Arvin? Thats darn impressive.  You must have your form, release,, and arrow perfected.
Title: Re: Snake coming soon!!!
Post by: Selfbowman on June 26, 2020, 10:49:36 am
462 gr. Sleek
Arvin
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Post by: bjrogg on June 26, 2020, 11:26:52 am
 Very nice bow Arvin. I’m just a sucker for the wiggles. Especially when they still know how to use what they got. Pretty and a worker to.
Bjrogg
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Post by: bownarra on June 26, 2020, 11:45:13 am
Got to love a good snakey bow :)
How thick is your handle right at the shelf?
I'd say your bit of shock might be from the upper limb. Mid limb out to the tip needs a wee tickle to my eyes. Hard to tell with the background though :)
Congratulations on the record holding bow as well!
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Post by: Selfbowman on June 26, 2020, 02:28:43 pm
Bownara you need 1-1/2 back to belly. More on white woods.
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Post by: Selfbowman on June 26, 2020, 02:31:31 pm
This might be what you want?
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Post by: Selfbowman on June 27, 2020, 08:00:35 am
Thanks guys for the kind comments. It has been a fun build . Arvin