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Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: denisdu67 on March 21, 2021, 07:18:42 am

Title: weird tillering, pls I need help
Post by: denisdu67 on March 21, 2021, 07:18:42 am
Hi everybody,


there is something weird with my tillering. I took 2 pictures and 2 videos to show you this weird tillering. in the video called "seems to be a good tillering" the tillering seems to be good for me. In this video I hold my bow well and the piece of leather is in my hand (that's why you can't see it).

But in the video called "weird tillering, pls help !" the tillering is not the same. and it seems to be a bad tillering. Then idk if I should trim a limb more than the other one or if my tillering is good.

here is the link to watch both videos:
https://we.tl/t-Gv55yqIvNa



Furthemore the tillering in pictures that I attached below seems to be not totally good BUT the tillering in the first video seems to be good. (pictures show 2 sides of the bow)
ask me if you want me to take more videos or pictures.

here is the link to see 2 pictures:
https://we.tl/t-Wc8EvmsmUL


Pls help :)

Best regards,
Denis
Title: Re: weird tillering, pls I need help
Post by: denisdu67 on March 21, 2021, 07:47:04 am
I think that these pictures show us the real tillering now.
The 2 pictures show the 2 sides of the bow. I think I will trim a side a little bit later what do you think ?


Here is the link to see thes 2 pictures:
https://we.tl/t-BukwOf27sY


Denis
Title: Re: weird tillering, pls I need help
Post by: RyanY on March 21, 2021, 07:55:37 am
I think what you are seeing is asymmetry in the bend of the limbs and a difference in strength. In the second video the bottom limb appears to be bending more than the top. Compared to the bow in the first video the second bow is bending more in the inner and mid limbs. I notice that the handle on both bows appears quite long which also gives the shape a bit of an odd appearance.
Title: Re: weird tillering, pls I need help
Post by: denisdu67 on March 21, 2021, 08:59:35 am
I think what you are seeing is asymmetry in the bend of the limbs and a difference in strength. In the second video the bottom limb appears to be bending more than the top. Compared to the bow in the first video the second bow is bending more in the inner and mid limbs. I notice that the handle on both bows appears quite long which also gives the shape a bit of an odd appearance.

Yes the handle is quite long.

Did you see 2 pictures that I sent in my last message at 7:47 ? If yes did you see that limbs bend almost in the same way ?  Then I think I did something weird in the first videos. idk what do you think ?
Title: Re: weird tillering, pls I need help
Post by: George Tsoukalas on March 21, 2021, 09:55:07 am
All I see is ads. Jawge
Title: Re: weird tillering, pls I need help
Post by: Pat B on March 21, 2021, 03:10:36 pm
That's all I see too, George.
Title: Re: weird tillering, pls I need help
Post by: bradsmith2010 on March 21, 2021, 05:36:03 pm
please post so we can see, not a link,,
Title: Re: weird tillering, pls I need help
Post by: RyanY on March 21, 2021, 06:15:02 pm
In the pictures, one limb is bending more in the inner limb compared to the other. Both are bending mostly in the inner 1/3rd of the limb with increasingly less bend in the rest of the limb. The tiller shape is likely inefficient for the width profile of the bow which probably needs more bend in the outer limb.
Title: Re: weird tillering, pls I need help
Post by: George Tsoukalas on March 21, 2021, 09:52:11 pm
Unless your Longfellow, Robert Louis Stevenson, or Charles Dickens one picture is worth a 1000 words. :)
Title: Re: weird tillering, pls I need help
Post by: denisdu67 on March 22, 2021, 02:25:26 am
Idk how I can insert pictures. I can't attach pictures because they are are too large. On the top of this message there is a bottom called something like "insert image" then I cliked on it and it wrote in my message "(http://)"
Title: Re: weird tillering, pls I need help
Post by: denisdu67 on March 22, 2021, 02:36:30 am
I also compressed my pictures but it still doesn't work
Here is another link: (https://app.photobucket.com/u/Denisdu67/p/970577b4-1dc1-4d98-9cca-e684c4155cc2)

Denis
Title: Re: weird tillering, pls I need help
Post by: denisdu67 on March 22, 2021, 02:37:17 am
https://app.photobucket.com/u/Denisdu67/p/970577b4-1dc1-4d98-9cca-e684c4155cc2
Title: Re: weird tillering, pls I need help
Post by: bownarra on March 22, 2021, 02:56:00 am
Resize the pictures, pictures have to be pretty small to be uploaded onto here.
However Ryan knows his stuff do what he suggests and you won't be far wrong.
Title: Re: weird tillering, pls I need help
Post by: denisdu67 on March 22, 2021, 04:06:36 am
I'm trying to send pictures of 2sides of the bow
Title: Re: weird tillering, pls I need help
Post by: denisdu67 on March 22, 2021, 04:07:22 am
It works :)
Title: Re: weird tillering, pls I need help
Post by: denisdu67 on March 22, 2021, 04:08:06 am
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Title: Re: weird tillering, pls I need help
Post by: denisdu67 on March 22, 2021, 04:09:17 am
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Title: Re: weird tillering, pls I need help
Post by: denisdu67 on March 22, 2021, 04:10:20 am
Thank you ;)
Title: Re: weird tillering, pls I need help
Post by: George Tsoukalas on March 22, 2021, 09:56:21 am
The tiller looks good. It could use a little more near handle wood bending. Something to keep in mind for the next one. Jawge
Title: Re: weird tillering, pls I need help
Post by: Selfbowman on March 22, 2021, 11:28:40 pm
More off the outer limbs. To much bend at mid limb to make it fast. That will make a bow as is though. Your going to get good if you stick with it. Just saying. Arvin
Title: Re: weird tillering, pls I need help
Post by: denisdu67 on March 23, 2021, 09:03:21 am
The tiller looks good. It could use a little more near handle wood bending. Something to keep in mind for the next one. Jawge

So you are saying that wood that is near the handle should bend more right ?
If yes it's weird because it seems to me that it's already using a a bit much near handle bending.

Denis
Title: Re: weird tillering, pls I need help
Post by: denisdu67 on March 23, 2021, 09:51:20 am
More off the outer limbs. To much bend at mid limb to make it fast. That will make a bow as is though. Your going to get good if you stick with it. Just saying. Arvin

I hope to stick ith it. What do you mean in your 3 first sentences ? I don't understand

Denis
Title: Re: weird tillering, pls I need help
Post by: Fox on March 23, 2021, 12:20:17 pm
More off the outer limbs. To much bend at mid limb to make it fast. That will make a bow as is though. Your going to get good if you stick with it. Just saying. Arvin

I hope to stick ith it. What do you mean in your 3 first sentences ? I don't understand

Denis


it could bend a little bit more from the tips to halfway up the limb. outer third is like if you picture the bow limb in thirds, the outer third is just the third towards the tips of the limb.  I think what George was saying was the handle and the fades could bend more... cause that's a huuuge handle.... but I think if your to your draw weight, and draw length then you should call it good..... maybe shoot a few arrows and see if its shooting good :OK