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Title: Another update and tiller check on first hickory bow
Post by: Gingerbeard20 on February 05, 2022, 04:24:12 pm
I have it at about a 5" brace right now pulling 40# at 22". I think I need mor bend on the inner thirds but thought I'd see what you all thought?
Title: Re: Another update and tiller check on first hickory bow
Post by: Gingerbeard20 on February 05, 2022, 04:29:37 pm
Bonus photo of a stock removal machete I finished up the other week.
Title: Re: Another update and tiller check on first hickory bow
Post by: Nasr on February 06, 2022, 02:48:18 am
Inner third as in closer to the fades? I would remove from the outer half of each limb
Title: Re: Another update and tiller check on first hickory bow
Post by: Pat B on February 06, 2022, 12:27:47 pm
I think the bend on both limbs looks pretty good.   The little hoop dee doo at the right fade makes it look off but I don't think it is. You could get the outer limbs to bend some more but it's not necessary. IMO
Title: Re: Another update and tiller check on first hickory bow
Post by: TimBo on February 06, 2022, 03:59:50 pm
What is your target draw length/weight?
Title: Re: Another update and tiller check on first hickory bow
Post by: Gingerbeard20 on February 06, 2022, 05:50:33 pm
TimBo I am aiming for 40# at 30in also Pat B and Nasr thank you for the advise.
Title: Re: Another update and tiller check on first hickory bow
Post by: Pappy on February 06, 2022, 08:09:17 pm
Looks pretty good to me, the right looks a little stiff right out passed the the hoop de do, but it also looks like that limb maybe has a little propeller , if so that may be causing it to look stiff, look at it from the other side should tell the story. :)
 Pappy
Title: Re: Another update and tiller check on first hickory bow
Post by: Nasr on February 06, 2022, 09:15:06 pm
I would go with pat advice. Thought it could bend more outwards but I would take his advice if I were in your position.
Title: Re: Another update and tiller check on first hickory bow
Post by: Gingerbeard20 on February 06, 2022, 09:20:38 pm
Good eye pappy it does indeed have propeller twist on that limb ill post a picture of it from the other side later this week when I get home but here is one from the belly of that limb and thank you for the advise I really appreciate everyones input.
Title: Re: Another update and tiller check on first hickory bow
Post by: Gingerbeard20 on February 12, 2022, 02:35:58 pm
Here is a picture from the other side left limb is what was on the right.
Title: Re: Another update and tiller check on first hickory bow
Post by: George Tsoukalas on February 12, 2022, 07:21:02 pm
Tiller looks good. How long is the stave? How do you know your draw length is 30 inches? Jawge
Title: Re: Another update and tiller check on first hickory bow
Post by: Gingerbeard20 on February 14, 2022, 04:51:12 am
George stave is 68ish inches nock to nock as for my draw length its just a guess really I have zero archery experience so I stood like I was holding a bow and pulled a tape from my left hand to the corner of my mouth. I know most common seems to be 28" but I fuigered having it tillered out to 30 and if I only end up drawing 28 would be safer than the other way around.
Title: Re: Another update and tiller check on first hickory bow
Post by: bentstick54 on February 14, 2022, 10:13:45 am
I just happened to be sitting in my recliner watching the morning news and had a tape measure on the table beside me. If I use your method to measure my draw length I came up with 32”. In the real world I draw real close to 28” to the corner of my mouth. Remember that 40# @ 30” will probably be about 34/35# @28”. For every inch shorter you can expect a loss of 2# to 3# in draw weight.
Title: Re: Another update and tiller check on first hickory bow
Post by: Gingerbeard20 on February 14, 2022, 07:04:43 pm
Bentstick54 what would be a better way to measure my draw length without already having a finished bow?
Title: Re: Another update and tiller check on first hickory bow
Post by: TimBo on February 14, 2022, 10:02:05 pm
Try resting a yardstick on your chest, form a triangle with your arms, and hold the other end with your fingertips.  Don't scrunch your shoulders forward...look at the measurement at the end of your fingertips and see what you come up with.  That is pretty accurate for me (26-27").  If I use a tape measure I get 32" or more, depending on where I measure from the left hand.
Title: Re: Another update and tiller check on first hickory bow
Post by: bentstick54 on February 14, 2022, 11:30:34 pm
I have used Timbos method years ago to get a ball park. I just went down stairs and got a yard stick and checked using this method. I measured about 27” on the yard stick. My wood arrows I shoot 3d with are cut 28-1/2” from throat of nock to back of point. At full draw I have about 1/2” of arrow sticking out past the back of my bow. Other factors can affect your actual arrow length, as in handle/ grip size and shape, so YMMV.  I would just go slow as you approach 27” or so, start checking your draw length slowly without overdrawing, or shaving off too much weight. You can always take more wood off, but you can’t put it back on.
Title: Re: Another update and tiller check on first hickory bow
Post by: George Tsoukalas on February 15, 2022, 01:58:11 pm
Yes, Gingerbread, you don't want to tiller to 30" if you don't have to. The yardstick in the chest gives a good ballpark measurement. Jawge
Title: Re: Another update and tiller check on first hickory bow
Post by: Gingerbeard20 on February 18, 2022, 04:12:41 pm
Tambo, Jawge, Bentstick I took your advice yardstick is showing me at about 27" so thank you for the advice you all definitely saved me some major errors. I'm going to tiller it to 27" and 40 or 45# and see how it feels right now I have it at 26" and 45# and I wouldn't want to hold it at full draw for very long so I think I may take it down to 40 until I actually learn to shoot it lol.
Title: Re: Another update and tiller check on first hickory bow
Post by: George Tsoukalas on February 18, 2022, 04:28:53 pm
Welcome!
Title: Re: Another update and tiller check on first hickory bow
Post by: bentstick54 on February 18, 2022, 07:39:05 pm
You’re welcome, remember if you need to in the future you can always tiller it out a little farther in you find you need to.
Title: Re: Another update and tiller check on first hickory bow
Post by: Gingerbeard20 on February 20, 2022, 12:14:37 pm
It shoots!!!!Thank you all so much for the help!!!! 69&1/2 in NTN 45# at 27" any critiques please let me know so I can make the next one better.
https://imgur.com/a/J7F6rGw
Title: Re: Another update and tiller check on first hickory bow
Post by: BetterTrees on February 20, 2022, 12:59:28 pm
It looks a little whip tillered (or maybe not quite. It's the second half of the middle third that I'm seeing) but at that length it shouldn't really develop any stack.
It's a good looking bow. I bet if you set it aside and build another that's a little lighter, you'll appreciate the weight soon.
#45 seemed incredibly heavy to me when I made my first board bow. After a year of shooting several bows, I've settled in to where that is my comfortable weight. I can't even pretend to be consistent at #60.
Title: Re: Another update and tiller check on first hickory bow
Post by: Gingerbeard20 on February 20, 2022, 01:13:14 pm
BetterTrees im def goimg to be starting another one shortly but 45# isn't to bad for me I don't think it's maybe a hair heavy at the moment but I also have a cracked rib so I'd say thats part of it lol. It may be a little whip tillered it's got a hair more bend in the outer 2/3s than the first but I cant notice any stack it does have some hand shock though. All in all for my first bow im pretty happy I will definitely be making more.
Title: Re: Another update and tiller check on first hickory bow
Post by: TimBo on February 20, 2022, 10:27:30 pm
Nice work!  Have fun shooting it.
Title: Re: Another update and tiller check on first hickory bow
Post by: gutpile on February 21, 2022, 03:03:33 pm
looks good .. congrats.. gut
Title: Re: Another update and tiller check on first hickory bow
Post by: WhistlingBadger on February 21, 2022, 04:59:33 pm
Looks great to me!  Well done.