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Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: Aaron1726 on June 23, 2023, 11:47:35 pm

Title: Wendake bow question
Post by: Aaron1726 on June 23, 2023, 11:47:35 pm
Ok, this may be a crazy question, but I came across this bow from the lorette reservation while searching for something else.  I've never seen a reverse recurve like this.  And holes in the limbs?  Why build a bow this way?  Just for looks and a ceremonial bow?  Or could there be some performance advantage?  Just seems wild, if nothing else, something to ponder.

https://americanindian.si.edu/collections-search/objects/NMAI_170210?destination=edan_searchtab%3Fpage%3D36%26edan_q%3Dbow

Thanks
Title: Re: Wendake bow question
Post by: Little John on June 24, 2023, 12:11:12 am
pretty fancy bow.
Title: Re: Wendake bow question
Post by: superdav95 on June 24, 2023, 12:48:20 am
Looks like those would be working recurves!   Pretty extreme if it can be strung and shot. 
Title: Re: Wendake bow question
Post by: Del the cat on June 24, 2023, 06:08:08 am
Just bonkers... dunno how it's supposed to work with that string.
Can't imagine how the string would stay on if it was strung and shot as a conventional recurve. Unless those holes wer for some sort of sting bridge?
NA equivalent of an April fools joke? >:D
Del
Title: Re: Wendake bow question
Post by: bassman211 on June 24, 2023, 09:35:45 am
Unique, and nece to look at even if wasn't made for shooting.
Title: Re: Wendake bow question
Post by: Hamish on June 24, 2023, 06:46:15 pm
Interesting bow. I'd like to see what it looks like braced, to see how much the recurves work.
Title: Re: Wendake bow question
Post by: TimBo on June 24, 2023, 10:37:10 pm
The typed file card says "probably made for tourists trade", so maybe it was not meant to be functional.
Title: Re: Wendake bow question
Post by: GlisGlis on July 07, 2023, 05:21:54 am
it could work as is
the portion of limb after the hole would have the back compressed !
I dont think it could have significant advantages but it's an interesting exercise of imagination !
Title: Re: Wendake bow question
Post by: burtonridr on July 07, 2023, 09:16:25 pm
Thats pretty wild, hard to imagine something like that lasting very long with use. Thanks for sharing that, never seen anything like it before.
Title: Re: Wendake bow question
Post by: Chumash on July 09, 2023, 06:09:13 am
I have seen a picture of a mikmac warrior
Title: Re: Wendake bow question
Post by: Chumash on July 09, 2023, 06:11:21 am
... and some bows designed after old greek reliefs...(I think this bows are build by redhawk55 years ago)
Title: Re: Wendake bow question
Post by: willie on July 09, 2023, 04:09:29 pm
........hey, guess my last post is a while back.............but since spring 2020 my wife and me are retired
Great to see you guys still trying to make the arrows fly as far as possible.......!!!!


maybe he will see this mention and tell us how it shoots
Title: Re: Wendake bow question
Post by: Aaron1726 on July 09, 2023, 04:26:13 pm
That's awesome that someone (of modern time that is) has built one.  I'm with Willie, maybe he can share his thoughts on it.

That picture of the Penobscot bow looks really interesting too, it seems to make more sense to have the hole through the limb.
Title: Re: Wendake bow question
Post by: bjrogg on July 09, 2023, 07:50:35 pm
That is certainly thinking out of the box.

Bjrogg
Title: Re: Wendake bow question
Post by: GlisGlis on July 10, 2023, 05:51:16 am
the string is likely to wear pretty fast
Title: Re: Wendake bow question
Post by: Chumash on July 10, 2023, 08:52:53 am
appendix - the guy drawing the bow is not redhawk55.

In the book "Reflexbogen" there is also a photo of this bows.

I don't know if a english version of this book exists.
Title: Re: Wendake bow question
Post by: Aaron1726 on July 10, 2023, 07:36:57 pm
Thanks Chumash
Title: Re: Wendake bow question
Post by: Chumash on July 11, 2023, 02:54:40 am
Search for Reflexbogen book.
There is a preview on google books.
On page 31 you will find the picture.
Title: Re: Wendake bow question
Post by: Chumash on July 11, 2023, 01:16:43 pm
https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/paleoplanet69529/boeotian-bow-tip-leverage-t40737.html

On this site there is also a discussion about the greek and the penobscot bows with split limbs or holes in the limb.
Title: Re: Wendake bow question
Post by: Aaron1726 on July 11, 2023, 09:36:30 pm
Thanks Chumash, that is an interesting read.  There must be something to it if different groups from different continents both had this design.  Even if it's not the best, still neat that they both had the same idea.