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Title: Little trick
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on August 07, 2023, 08:38:16 am
As we know most lateral moves are difficult to get much movement and generally don't hold as we want them to. I fought this blank more than I should have and tried heating the limbs up twice. The tips are still 4" plus off center. They started about 8" off center. I remedied the situation by doing what these pics show. The wedge is about a 1/4" at the thickest point. 

Title: Re: Little trick
Post by: superdav95 on August 07, 2023, 09:49:36 am
Wow. I never would have thought that would work.  That’s awesome.  I may have to give that a try.  I’ve got a wonky piece of wood that may be a candidate for this. 
Title: Re: Little trick
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on August 07, 2023, 10:09:32 am
Dave, I drilled a hole at the end of the cut. Hoping it wouldn't go farther as I tapped the wedge in. I grabbed it in my vice just past the hole hoping it would also help. It worked great and didn't split out.
Title: Re: Little trick
Post by: Will B on August 07, 2023, 11:26:04 am
Now that’s a really interesting trick!  Thanks for sharing Chris
Title: Re: Little trick
Post by: Pat B on August 07, 2023, 11:57:21 am
Interesting, Pearlie. Let us know how it works out.
Title: Re: Little trick
Post by: Jim Davis on August 07, 2023, 03:00:33 pm
Nice clamps too.
Title: Re: Little trick
Post by: bjrogg on August 07, 2023, 08:08:27 pm
That’s thinking out of the box. Gonna have to remember that one.

I’m thinking your precautions to keep it from splitting out were a good thing. I can certainly see how that could continue further than wanted.

Bjrogg
Title: Re: Little trick
Post by: JW_Halverson on August 07, 2023, 11:40:29 pm
Good idea drilling the hole at the end of the saw cut. Rather than focusing all the strain in one tiny spot, the round hole spreads the strain across the circumference of the hole. This is often done in leatherwork when you have to make a slit that bears pressure. We do this in the jesses used in falconry where we attach the swivels or clasps to prevent the leather tearing out.
Title: Re: Little trick
Post by: GlisGlis on August 08, 2023, 04:00:36 am
Great experiment!
To be honest it scares me bad
it looks like a billets junction with a reduced contact area (no dovetail) and a greater angle of cut.
Yes. It terrifies me
Be very cautious at bending time
Title: Re: Little trick
Post by: Eric Krewson on August 08, 2023, 07:51:31 am
I have used a Z splice to align the limbs and take the dogleg out as well as remove most of the twist from one limb.
Title: Re: Little trick
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on August 08, 2023, 07:56:41 am
I added a 1/4 sawn cap last night. Although, I don't believe it was going anywhere. Now, I know its not going anywhere. 
Title: Re: Little trick
Post by: superdav95 on August 08, 2023, 12:20:46 pm
I have used a Z splice to align the limbs and take the dogleg out as well as remove most of the twist from one limb.

Another great idea. 
Title: Re: Little trick
Post by: Weird dude with a bow on August 09, 2023, 04:24:35 am
I also use this technique to take off too much reflex or deflex in the handle, but never tried for lateral bend! thank for sharing
Title: Re: Little trick
Post by: Juan Ant. Espinosa on August 09, 2023, 05:26:35 am
Nice!
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Post by: Stixnstones on August 09, 2023, 07:11:07 am
Awesome idea bud
Title: Re: Little trick
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on August 09, 2023, 07:16:45 am
Hope it helps somebody trudge through a few tough staves they might otherwise not touch. May as well share a few more pics of my project. The tip are purple heart and hickory.


Title: Re: Little trick
Post by: M2A on August 09, 2023, 08:34:02 am
Simple solution to the problem. Almost want to dig through my staves to see if I can find one to try it on. I'd have never thought of that one. Thanks for sharing. Looks like the project is well on it's way.
Mike 
Title: Re: Little trick
Post by: superdav95 on August 09, 2023, 11:35:58 am
Hey PD, is this wedge repair or correction creeping into the fade area of the one limb?   Obviously there are limits to this repair or method but I wonder how far into the limb fades this could safely be done???   
Title: Re: Little trick
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on August 09, 2023, 12:09:01 pm
No sir. The entire cut/wedge is well within the 4" grip area. I like long fades. They are 3" long plus. So any bending is at least 3.5-4" away from the cut.
Title: Re: Little trick
Post by: Pappy on August 10, 2023, 06:40:43 am
Great idea, would have never thought of that.Good seeing you at Elm Hall, always a pleasure. :)
 Pappy
Title: Re: Little trick
Post by: bjrogg on August 11, 2023, 07:12:05 am
Looks good to me Pearl.

Like that unbraced profile. Thinking that should make a good shooter for you.

Bjrogg
Title: Re: Little trick
Post by: WhistlingBadger on August 11, 2023, 02:35:08 pm
Interesting idea!  Glad it's working out.
Title: Re: Little trick
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on October 11, 2023, 09:47:43 am
Just a follow up. This survived so far and is happy and healthy. I haven't actually finished it yet. But, have shot it a ton. I get a little ADHD in the shop and skip around projects A LOT. :)

Title: Re: Little trick
Post by: superdav95 on October 11, 2023, 11:12:03 am
Just a follow up. This survived so far and is happy and healthy. I haven't actually finished it yet. But, have shot it a ton. I get a little ADHD in the shop and skip around projects A LOT. :)

Lol. You and I are alike here.  The worst combination is adhd and ocd!   I’ve got a bow I’m gonna try this on.   
Title: Re: Little trick
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on October 11, 2023, 11:21:59 am
I'm neck deep into another experiment using the short belly drops off a band sawn stave. I took a 30" drop and made (2) 1/2" thick lams from it. Then finger spliced a 10" long piece into both to make a 66" blank for a backed bow. So far so very good. I've burned up hundreds of those "useless" drops over the years. 
Title: Re: Little trick
Post by: superdav95 on October 11, 2023, 11:27:25 am
I'm neck deep into another experiment using the short belly drops off a band sawn stave. I took a 30" drop and made (2) 1/2" thick lams from it. Then finger spliced a 10" long piece into both to make a 66" blank for a backed bow. So far so very good. I've burned up hundreds of those "useless" drops over the years.

Can you post or send me pics of this!  I’ve got some of those too.  I’d be very interested in seeing how you did this.  Did you z splice them?
Title: Re: Little trick
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on October 11, 2023, 11:55:04 am
Here you go, Dave
Title: Re: Little trick
Post by: freke on October 11, 2023, 12:20:42 pm
Nice splicing's you do, straightening with a wedge was really clever, never seen or think about that before  :OK.
Title: Re: Little trick
Post by: superdav95 on October 11, 2023, 04:31:01 pm
That’s awesome chris.  Thanks.  I’ll be putting some of my drops to good use with this idea.  Thanks!
Title: Re: Little trick
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on October 11, 2023, 04:35:58 pm
A power lam would be a good idea I think. Mine is integral. When I thinned and tapered the boo I left the center 12" much thicker.
Title: Re: Little trick
Post by: superdav95 on October 12, 2023, 01:52:37 am
Waist not want not.  Great use for those extra pieces.  I like it.  I think I’ll have to try one soon. 
Title: Re: Little trick
Post by: Selfbowman on October 12, 2023, 09:31:21 am
Finished bow handle pic?