Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: stuckinthemud on December 26, 2023, 05:32:45 pm
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I wonder what would happen if you switched the pencil in a gizmo for a scraper blade? I mean, you adjust the pencil, mark the bow, scrape away the marks and repeat. So. Why not cut out the middle step? Would that give you what medieval makers called a bow float?
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I like the sound of it. I’m not really as familiar with wood working tools as I could be so I’ll ask if there is a small plane that maybe the blade is in the center? If there is, would that work?
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The closest thing to this may be a Boyers edge by Torges. I don’t have one yet but I’ve been looking to try and get one. It would be similar to a spike shave too perhaps and also adjustable blade depth. The first pic is of the bowyers edge by Dean Torges.
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I tried a cabinet scraper . It did not work for me. Might have been operator error?🤠 I do like the thought of that kind of scraper.
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They make a smaller version of this block plane. you would have to add to the front end.
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I have also found scraper planes with centrally mounted blades. The problem is you’d need to use this while the bow is flexed on the tree. This would mean the scraper needs a very low profile to avoid fowling the string. I found an image of a medieval bowyers float on https://mistholme.com/dictionary/float/ which shows a thin plate with half a dozen scraper blades
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They make a smaller version of this block plane. you would have to add to the front end.
Why not just cut the back off same length as the front end with the blade dead center.
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Interesting idea. I suspect the issue is tuning it. I’m envisioning it scraping away too much, but appearing perfect, then when you exercise the bow and the changes kick in and create a hinge. If you used it until it was even without exercising it you’d definitely create problems. I think it would just take some skill to get used to.
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The gizmo is only a marking tool, to actually remove wood you need much more pressure than the small gizmo could provide.
A separate scraping tool will give you better control of where you take wood off, I often just scrap off the pencil lines.
The key to having an effective cabinet scraper is knowing how to sharpen one, they are pretty amazing if you roll the hook just right.
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A block plane with a rotary sanding disk in the center would be the ticket. The disk would heed to be adjustable.
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I have seen this version of a scraper years ago on paleo planet. It is easy to built. I build mine with one blade of an old flott.
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I have seen this version of a scraper years ago on paleo planet. It is easy to built. I build mine with one blade of an old flott.
Bingo, how make the foot of the tool extend an inch and a halve front and back to give you the same sole profile as the gizmo and you are there. But I'd just stick to pencil and scraping as usual. As it is I have too many one trick pony tools, don't need to add another.
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Are we trying to build a better mouse trap. Maybe so. I might invest in one of the card scraper sharpeners I saw on here a while back, Accu-Burr I believe. That and my gizmo should be good for me. I’m just not very good at getting my card scrapers edged right all the time.
It would be nice to have something that would work nicely though.
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The only thing I have been meaning to change on my gizmo is the pencil but I never get around to it. I think a felt pen with a wide tip would do a better job of showing how much to scrape off because it is soft and would lay down a heavier line in the flatter spots.
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... and I work at the marked places with the scraper shave ;)
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one of these with some mods
1, the shoe has been rounded. the front and back edges were sanded away with the beltsander. the throat area remains untouched
2. the blade has been re-profiled . it now has about an 1/8" crown. keeps the corners from catching and allows narrow shavings
3. the blade sharpener jig has a single contact point at the center to facilitate sharpening the radiused blade edge.