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Title: Help looking for staining info
Post by: bentstick54 on November 09, 2025, 10:39:11 am
I’ve tried searching for past posts on people who blended different color stains on their Osage bows with little success. Can anyone help point me in the right direction. Picture of some I’ve saved from somewhere in the past as an example.
Title: Re: Help looking for staining info
Post by: mmattockx on November 09, 2025, 02:49:17 pm
I would look at superdave's posts, he has done some spectacularly nice staining work in the past.


Mark
Title: Re: Help looking for staining info
Post by: Hamish on November 09, 2025, 04:38:10 pm
 Dean Torges popularised using dyes on his osage bows.  I would check out his book. and videos. He was a meticulous guy with his woodworking/bowmaking processes.
Title: Re: Help looking for staining info
Post by: Pat B on November 09, 2025, 06:03:42 pm
 Dean Torges used aniline dye powder with denatured alcohol. Fiebings leather is an aniline dye in alcohol and works well on all bow woods I have tried
Title: Re: Help looking for staining info
Post by: bentstick54 on November 09, 2025, 07:21:50 pm
Thanks guys. Pat I’ve got a couple of shades of Fielbings on hand I’m playing with. Assuming Truoil should go over it fine.
Title: Re: Help looking for staining info
Post by: Hamish on November 09, 2025, 08:04:45 pm
You should be fine with tru oil. I'd test an area first to make sure, though. Anything like shellac, with an alcohol-based solvent would be a no no.
Title: Re: Help looking for staining info
Post by: Burnsie on November 09, 2025, 11:02:48 pm
What's the steel wool and vinegar stuff?
Title: Re: Help looking for staining info
Post by: Hamish on November 09, 2025, 11:28:22 pm
Steel wool and vinegar. I think you could put most clear finishes on top of it.

Never used it on osage, only on white woods. More subtle than modern dyes, takes time to build up depth.
Title: Re: Help looking for staining info
Post by: Pat B on November 10, 2025, 12:50:13 am
Tru-Oil is comparable with Fiebings leather dye.
Title: Re: Help looking for staining info
Post by: Eric Krewson on November 10, 2025, 09:09:31 am
One way I make stains look different is to put a thick coat of stain on a bow, let it dry and lighten the areas I want lighter by scrubbing the area with a scotch bright pad. I used medium brown for this bow and scrubbed the lighter areas.


Title: Re: Help looking for staining info
Post by: Eric Krewson on November 10, 2025, 09:25:21 am
As far as blending one color into another color you can put the different stains side by side and use a fan brush to scrub between the two and they will blend seamlessly into each other.

Here is an explanation of sorts on a much larger medium with a plain brush.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6jTEXQjI5s

I was a duck decoy carver once and had to learn the correct brush strokes to make my ducks paint job look real. This is the belly of a shore bird that I used a fan brush to transition the yellow color to white.


Title: Re: Help looking for staining info
Post by: bentstick54 on November 10, 2025, 10:28:00 am
Thanks Eric, I really like the look of that bow. I will definitely play around with that method.
Title: Re: Help looking for staining info
Post by: Pat B on November 10, 2025, 01:12:41 pm
There is a difference between Fiebings dye and stain. The dye will dry in a matter of a few minutes, the stain takes a while. The stain is used for an antiquing effect going in low spots and mostly removed from the high spots. I'm not sure if Eric mistakenly used stain instead of dye but that needs clarification. Eric has done beautiful decorations on his bows and his methods can be helpful to others just getting into this crazy addiction of ours.
Title: Re: Help looking for staining info
Post by: Eric Krewson on November 11, 2025, 10:23:43 am
I do use dye almost 100% of the time  to "stain" the wood on bows, just a play on words. The exception is when I use dye from walnut hulls to stain arrows or match repairs to the wood on a walnut stocked B/P rifle.

(https://i.imgur.com/kP0fh1S.jpg)

 The other exception is when I use a nitric acid solution called aqufortis to stain maple gun stocks, the results are quite striking. To use aqufortis one paints it on a stock, let it dry and go over the wood with a heat gun to "blush" the the wood. Heat makes aqufortis react with the tannin in wood to bring out the final color.

(https://i.imgur.com/macaF3R.jpg)

It adds a pretty, deep brown color to hickory

(https://i.imgur.com/axnQP0a.jpg)

One time I thought "aqufortis makes maple look incredible, I wonder what it will do to osage". It was big disappointment, it turned osage as black as coal.

(https://i.imgur.com/wylhUt8.jpg)
Title: Re: Help looking for staining info
Post by: bentstick54 on November 11, 2025, 10:33:05 am
Thanks Pat and Eric. I’m hoping on finding some time between cleaning up leaves in the yard, sneaking in a little time in the deer woods, and doctor appointments to play around with staining a bow I’m trying to finish up.
Title: Re: Help looking for staining info
Post by: JW_Halverson on November 11, 2025, 06:03:46 pm
Eric, you may think your aqua fortis experiment was a failure, but it's what I am looking for on a non-bow project involving osage. Saves me from having to try sourcing a fair amount of very expensive ebony!!!
Title: Re: Help looking for staining info
Post by: Eric Krewson on November 12, 2025, 10:39:38 am
I tried it diluted and got gray, full strength and got black. This is the diluted test, I added 50% water to the solution.

If your test isn't dark enough for you just repeat with another strong coat. Every flintlock stock that I stained with aqufortis got much darker over time.


Title: Re: Help looking for staining info
Post by: bentstick54 on November 16, 2025, 10:46:09 pm
After playing around with some bows that didn’t make the grade, I used them for stain sampling, I did not like    how things were turning out. I would get 1 limb where I liked it, but then had a hard time matching the other limb. So I temporarily abandoned the stain idea and went back to just a Tru oil finish to get it done. It’s hunting season, and I have a minor hand surgery coming up so needed to get it done.
I will keep experimenting on staining until I figure it out .