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Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: DirtyDan on June 05, 2008, 11:18:24 am

Title: Elm from Sawfiler Tenn. Classic
Post by: DirtyDan on June 05, 2008, 11:18:24 am
Well, I bought some Osage from Sawfiler at Tenn. Classic, and he threw in this elm stave which I roughed out the last day of the Classic at Pappy's in Clarksville, TN.  I had a feeling that the bow would turn out to be a real shooter, and it did.  68" long ntn, it pulls 56 lbs. at 26". It stacks at that point, but I think that may be a good thing.  I shot it last week in a tournament and I shot the best I have done in quite some time.  It is very forgiving, no hand shock and very quiet.  I heated and put some reflex into it at Pappy's, and then left it in a drying box for two weeks.  I then heat-treated the belly very thoroughly and began to reduce the weight of the bow gradually off the sides and belly until I reached 23.4 ounces total weight.  At that point it was shooting very nicely and I did not want to take off any more wood.  According to TBB IV I should have reduced it to about 19 ounces, but I am happy with it the way it is.  I put African ebony tips on it, stained it walnut color, put a deerskin handle on it and began to practice.  I love the "Stack."  I know exactly how far to pull it back;  I settle, let go slowly and boom--right in the bullseye (well, most of the time!)

Dan

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Title: Re: Elm from Sawfiler Tenn. Classic
Post by: DanaM on June 05, 2008, 11:20:22 am
Dam thats a real nice looking bow, I have a sister stave from Shannon hope I can do as well as you did.
Well done  :)
Title: Re: Elm from Sawfiler Tenn. Classic
Post by: Hillbilly on June 05, 2008, 11:22:31 am
Great looking bow, Dan.
Title: Re: Elm from Sawfiler Tenn. Classic
Post by: Jesse on June 05, 2008, 11:27:28 am
looks nice . Really nice :o
Title: Re: Elm from Sawfiler Tenn. Classic
Post by: Ryano on June 05, 2008, 12:16:10 pm
Stack? On a 68" long bow? Wow I'd like to see the force draw curve, I find it hard to believe a 68" bow is stacking at a 26" draw. looks nice to me lets see a unbraced picture.
Title: Re: Elm from Sawfiler Tenn. Classic
Post by: Gordon on June 05, 2008, 12:29:35 pm
I was wondering about the same thing Ryan. You ought to be able to get a lot more than 26" of draw with a design like that. :P
Title: Re: Elm from Sawfiler Tenn. Classic
Post by: Pappy on June 05, 2008, 01:00:07 pm
Very nice Dan,tiller looks great.Nice job. :)
   Pappy
Title: Re: Elm from Sawfiler Tenn. Classic
Post by: Rich Saffold on June 05, 2008, 01:38:05 pm
Dan,You could trim a little weight off, most on the right limb, but if you like how it shoots thats what's most important...68" elm, I'm drawing that to 30" smoothly..But I'm envious since I am out of good elm, and it shines in the dry air where I live...

Rich
Title: Re: Elm from Sawfiler Tenn. Classic
Post by: GregB on June 05, 2008, 01:54:41 pm
Good looking bow Dan, I'm glad you're shooting it well.
Title: Re: Elm from Sawfiler Tenn. Classic
Post by: DirtyDan on June 05, 2008, 03:29:44 pm
Yes, I am surprised that I am not getting more draw out of it.  It could be that I am bending too much near the nocks, I do not know.  Here is unbraced view.

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Title: Re: Elm from Sawfiler Tenn. Classic
Post by: DirtyDan on June 05, 2008, 03:34:55 pm
Here is front profile

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Title: Re: Elm from Sawfiler Tenn. Classic
Post by: DanaM on June 05, 2008, 04:08:14 pm
It doesn't look whip tillered to me Dan, the right limb looks like it may be just a bit stiff near the fades
Any chance of a full draw with you pulling it?
Title: Re: Elm from Sawfiler Tenn. Classic
Post by: david w. on June 05, 2008, 06:39:01 pm
Very Nice!
Could you tell me how deep it was in the handle and how wide the limbs are?
Title: Re: Elm from Sawfiler Tenn. Classic
Post by: Kegan on June 05, 2008, 07:34:32 pm
Sweet bow you got there- and very nice tiller :)
Title: Re: Elm from Sawfiler Tenn. Classic
Post by: DirtyDan on June 05, 2008, 08:13:19 pm
Thanks, everyone.  The bow is 1 and 3/4" at the fades and the handle is about the same.  I don't have a full draw picture with me pulling it.  Sorry.
Title: Re: Elm from Sawfiler Tenn. Classic
Post by: FlintWalker on June 05, 2008, 08:43:42 pm
 ;D ;D ;D I knew you could do it!
 Looks good to me and I'm glad it shoots good for ya.  After seeing how you transformed that stave into a nice bow, I may just have to try some more Elm.   Thanks for posting it.  Saw Filer
Title: Re: Elm from Sawfiler Tenn. Classic
Post by: The Burnt Hill Archer on June 05, 2008, 09:11:51 pm
Beautiful bow man. tiller looks great, very smooth. i would love to find some elm, but around here there is some disease killing them all. >:( in all my wood hunting outings, ive seen maybe 1 or 2 that wernt dead, and they were iffy. nice job on yours though!

Phil
Title: Re: Elm from Sawfiler Tenn. Classic
Post by: mullet on June 05, 2008, 09:25:51 pm
  Good looking bow Dan. Everytime I looked you were scraping wood. You were busy. I have to agree, it should pull more than that. But I see where a little work on that right limb will get a little more pull. I hate to ask a maybe dumb question,  :-\especially as long as you have been doing this, but are you measuring the draw from the back or the belly?
Title: Re: Elm from Sawfiler Tenn. Classic
Post by: Pappy on June 06, 2008, 06:52:19 am
Ya Eddie he is a scraping machine,I meet him about 4 years ago at the OLD Farts shoot
and he came to the Classic the next year.He set up right up at the front of the shop where you go in ,it was in the sun and pretty warm,he never let up all weekend I think he tillered from a stave 3 maybe 4 bows that weekend,it was amazing to me.Nice guy and make some beautiful stuff.Nice
bow Dan as I have said,don't look like it took much set,nice profile.Standing good and straight. :)
    Pappy
Title: Re: Elm from Sawfiler Tenn. Classic
Post by: DirtyDan on June 06, 2008, 05:15:28 pm
Thanks, Pappy and Shannon.  Mullet, I measure the draw the middle of the handle (depth-wise).  Is that not right?

Dan