Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: Ryan_Gill_HuntPrimitive on June 08, 2008, 05:03:18 pm
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took a little more patients than i would have normally had, but i finally got it done. its American elm.
60" ntn and 64# @ 26 1\2 inches. real smooth, real quiet, no hand shock. overall, good hunting bow.
the tips are overlayed with black walnut capped in Osage. the grip is stitched deer hide dyed in natural b. walnut stain. i started with zero reflex , i ended up with a solid 1\2" of string follow. probably my best executed tillering job yet- especially on a short 64# bow. the limbs are 1 3\4 wide for 2\3 of the length, following the grain, so there is a little variance, and then taper to 3\8 knocks.
the stave was cured for about a year and then i roughed it out and let dry out another month to stabilize. then i steamed a tip (Ryano's helpful suggestion) and let sit in the form for 2 days and then repeated for the other side. then i let sit for about 2 weeks to dry back out a bit and then tillered slowly. and now here we are. thanks for checking it out- Ryan
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That's a sweet looking bow Ryan. I just love that Static look. You really got some pounds out of that short bow. I need to get started on the nice piece of Elm that RyanO gave me quite awhile ago.
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hey ryan! - nice bow! really like the recurve/noch detail!
frank
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That's one sharp bow you've built! I really like your bows- simple and to the point. The point being to put a point where you point :D.
Anyway. The grip and the overlays are definately top notch :).
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that is a really good looking bow there!!!
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Really nice static recurve, Ryan. The braced, unbraced and full draw look very good. Looks to be an excellent hunting bow. ;) 8)
You might consider rounding off the edges on the back and belly sides a bit more. That is dead weight anyway. You shouldn't loose any weight from doing this and it will help prevent a splinter from raising.
Pat
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thanks a lot guys. pat: i rounded them off a bit (drug the knife across the edges and sanded them", not a whole lot, but enough not to raise a splinter, i assume you noticed the edge in the tip picture? i left the back side edge of the tip a little sharper (b\c it doesnt bend much) so i would have a smoother transition to the tip overlay other wise i was afraid of having a slight glue gap or having to round the belly of the overlay before i put it on. kinda hard to explain i guess. thanks for the concern though.- Ryan
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The tips is where I was seeing it. You have got it covered, just checking! ;D Pat
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no prob, i appreciate the constructive critisizm and concern.
mullet- do you have elm down your way. i find little groves of it around here. mostly places i cant cut it, but sometimes i find it on jobs sites that will be cleared, actually i salvaged 2 really nice cherry staves from a tree that was taken down with a front end loader. if i would have shown up 5 minutes earlier, i would have had a truck load. but you know how those machines rip wood apart.
Thanks Kegan, i like them pretty simple. the knocks and grip are usually as fancy as i ever get.
- Ryan
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darn nice bow! i really like it. the recurves and tips are really pretty
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Ryan ....that is one Smooth Looking Bow....I like your design....Simple yet Showy...The Tips and Static Curves are great....hate to sound like a Broken Record...so I will quit and just say.....I Like It A Lot!!!!
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Nice bow!! great job on the tiller.
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I really like the looks of your new bow! Great work! I want my next bow to turn out half that nice, but my stave is full of worm holes :'( Joe H
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Nice bow. Looks like one of those recurves gave you a hard time. I've had that happen to me a few times. Did you do any heat treating?
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....wow. nice job. id like to shoot a wooden recurve. all i has ever shot is self bows, long bows, and plastic recurves.
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marc- yup gave me a bit of trouble. i had wider sweeping turns originally and they pulled out just enough that the string would just touch the belly of the bow, so i re- steamed quick and bent just the very tips which of course gave me the tighter turns. thats white wood for ya...lol
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Very, very, nice Job Ryan! I love it! Glad I was able to help you out in some small way.
Eddie, Come on brother lets see what you can do with that hunk of Elm. That thing should be very well seasoned by now!
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Excellent job. Cant believe how little string follow you got.
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That is a realiy nice looking bow Ryan. Tiller looks great, you sure got a lot out of that stave.
Alan
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is the backing just the outside layer of wood on the stave?
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Radius- yup, the bow is un-backed, i just peeled the bark and that was it, single grown ring
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also, its a bit darker b\c i stained the back a little darker so it wasnt so bright in the woods- Ryan
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cool
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Very nice job. I like the leatherwork and the overall look of that bow.
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Now that's my kinda bow! Short, sweet and recurved. Should be perfect for hunting. That's the second nice elm bow I've seen in the last few days. We got lots of elm around here, why ain't I using some of it ??? Saw Filer
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Shannon, cause you got osage! ;D You are spoiled! ;) Pat
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yeah jerk :P, you got all the good wood...hehehe ;D you want elm?, i'll trade you for osage.. :o - Ryan///mwah ha ha ha ha
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i might actually consider that sometime...seriously
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what trading osage for elm? i suppose its not an outrageous idea, as they say- when you dont have something on hand it turns into high demand.
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its fairly easy for me to get osage living in the midwest. there is alot of elm to but a little harder for me to get. I have a bunch of osage boards and i thought i only had enough for about 3 but then i refigured i have enough for about 6 bows. so i am considering trading. All most osage is board stock but very high quality. i do know where a good sized osage is growing a couple hundred yards from my house. i am in a trade right now so i dont need any but maybe sometime in the future depending on how much i like the elm and i think i will ;D
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ok, keep me in mind for the osage boards, i am looking for one now, so when your ready you'll know where to find me.- Ryan
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Very, very nice bow.
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Ryan, that's just an all-around helluva good looking bow. I like everything about it. You've been turning out some nice weapons, I really liked that hornbeam bow you posted, too.
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Very nice Ryan,looks like a great hunting bow to me. :)
Pappy
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It's maybe the bow that I'd like to make some day, it's really nice, and tiller in that short bow it's incredible.
Congratulations, a really good work!
David
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I really like this bow. Simple, clean, and looks like a good hunting bow. What kind of black walnut stain did you use for the handle, or was it raw walnut juices rubbed on?
Jason
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That is a fine bow. American Elm grows like a weed around here but I haven't tried it. Great candidate for June Self Bow of the Month.
Hmmm, I've asked this question before:
This isn't really a static recurve is it like someone mentioned. Seems like I see those recurves working.
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Elm is a nice wood. You did a fine job, congrats!
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Excellent job, Ryan. I love the shape, color, and tiller. Nice job on the tips also. Did you steam in the tips?
Dan
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Bravo. Very nice.
Dave
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thanks a whole lot for the compliments fellas
susqua- i made the stain from mashing and soaking some hulls in water for a day, then i boiled it down till it got real concentrated, then i mixed it about 50 \50 with rubbing alcohol. i keep it in a pickle jar. when i cut the leather to size, i drop it in the jar for about 15 minutes. then pull out and dab it with a paper towel
oldbow- the tips work a bit, not a whole lot, but i do think they work some. hard to say for sure since they are so tight.
Dan, yes i steamed the tips, for about half hour each over a pot of water.
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Really nice. Man, you crank out some bows!!!
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beautiful bow!