Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Primitive Skills => Topic started by: nugget on June 11, 2008, 10:42:51 pm
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the knox gelitain you buy in the store is hide glue right? ???. Ok it might not be totally primitive but 1 step at a time.
what is the way you fellers use it. do you follow the instructions on the box ? or is there a better way to use it? I need a little advice
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Knox works great. You want to mix it a lot stouter than the package instructions. Mix the powder with a bit of cold water, then heat it up in a double boiler or something that you can keep the temp about 120 or below. From there you can add water or powder until it's like thin syrup. It has to be heated to use. If you try mixing the powder in hot water to begin with, it clumps up really bad.
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the know gelitain you buy in the store is hide glue right? ???. Ok it might not be totally primitive but 1 step at a time.
what is the way you fellers use it. do you follow the instructions on the box ? or is there a better way to use it? I need a little advice
Dissolve each envelope you use in 1/4 cup of water...set aside and let it soak it up...then warm the mixture up to where you can barely keep you finger in it...120-125 degrees.....you want to add more water if needed to get the Mixture like a thin Maple Syrup...the you are ready to go.....any other Questions?? You are better off with real Hide Glue but this will work
Well I guess we were typing at the same time Hillbilly!!!!!
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is this good for wood to wood?
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It's great for wood to wood....violin makers have been using hide glue forever.....
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Once you are done do you just keep it in the fridge?
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just seems strange to glue wood together with jello!
So, uh...can I eat yellow glue, too?
And what about moisture?
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Or pour it into something shallow so it spreads out thin and let it dry. Radius, Tim Baker tested Knox as being stronger than TB, URac, or almost any other glue for wood/wood. It's just not waterproof. All the old Turkish/Asian composite horn bows were put together with hide and fish glues.
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just seems strange to glue wood together with jello!
So, uh...can I eat yellow glue, too?
And what about moisture?
C/Mon...you mean to tell me ....when you were young....you didnt piour glue on your School Desk...and let it fry....then eat it......ah...dont tell me I am the only weirdo that did this!!!!
I always seal my Hide Glue Sinew wrapped tips with Spar Varnish...keeps it from getting wet
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Nugget ,yea just put it in the frige until you need it next time. Just heat it up and add a little water, like heatin' up thin gravy.
radius, yea you can eat it. Or use real hide glue, the gelatin out of the canned hams.
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Hell Spam is mostly Gelatin....like eating Hide Glue with some Meat Scraps....but I better not knock Spam....Manny might get mad....you know how them People from Hawaii get about their Spam!!!! ;)
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i'd rather eat EPOXY than spam!
so let me hear this one more time: I can glue backings on with jello or whatever, and that is stronger than PVA glue? And as long as I protect it from moisture, it'll hold? Tung oil be good enough?
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i'd rather eat EPOXY than spam!
so let me hear this one more time: I can glue backings on with jello or whatever, and that is stronger than PVA glue? And as long as I protect it from moisture, it'll hold? Tung oil be good enough?
Never tried Tung Oil....but I have two Bows that are Sinewed with Hide Glue...and only sealed wit Beeswax and Tallow mix...works great...just have to redo it about twice a Year....
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I've got cans in my Jeep stashed. The way gas is getting , it might start tasting real good. Hide glue to food, here we go. ;D That didn't take long.
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and so, does the jello have the shrinking properties that is supposed to be so good with sinew?
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and so, does the jello have the shrinking properties that is supposed to be so good with sinew?
Knox is just a more purified Hide Glue...it will shrink up as the Sinew Shrinks up...the two work in unison...try it..you'll like it!!!
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cool, i think i will...and thanks for the joke, btw...that's f'n fun-nee!
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One of the big differences between good hide glue and gelatin is that gelatin does not have a strength rating or "grade". Good hide glue will be predictable. Good hide glue will also enable you to choose the "open" time by choosing a certain grade of hide glue.
If you use Knox then you're rolling the dice. It could lead to disappointment. Personally, I don't use it.
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I was wanting to use the knox hide glue for gluing fletch wrapping down on arrows and other small projects where I need to glue sinew down.
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if you put your hide glue in the fridge it will still dry up,, take a week or two.. ifin ya dont plane on usein it again anytime soon I'd say freeze it.
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TJ, I chew the sinew strands first before wrapping on fletching. The saliva and sinew make its own glue and no other glue is needed. A good sealing after it dries well and you are good to go. I use the pine pitch varnish I make to seal my primitive arrows and the sinew wrappings. Super glue or TB glue works will to seal the wraps also. Pat
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Hell Spam is mostly Gelatin....like eating Hide Glue with some Meat Scraps....but I better not knock Spam....Manny might get mad....you know how them People from Hawaii get about their Spam!!!! ;)
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David...I like that Saying at the Bottom of Your Threads..... ::)
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thanks ;D
i put your name after it now :)
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thanks ;D
i put your name after it now :)
You are quite the Humorist...I like your Style... Young One!!!