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Title: Cain Shooters....Help
Post by: agd68 on July 17, 2008, 03:52:41 pm
How do you adjust a cain or bamboo shaft for spine? Do you sand them down like other woodies or just play with the  length.
Title: Re: Cain Shooters....Help
Post by: Ryan_Gill_HuntPrimitive on July 17, 2008, 04:03:09 pm
i find one that shoots good and hand spine the rest to a close estimation.  i suppose you could sand the thicker ones, but i never try to adjust them personally. and different length arrows usually mess with my head while aiming.  spine hasnt been a huge problem with cane for me, i personally believe its over rated, just as long as it shoots good it good enough for me.- Ryan
Title: Re: Cain Shooters....Help
Post by: n2everythg on July 17, 2008, 04:22:45 pm
I have sanded down the cane to get to or match spine weight.
But I think it makes them easier to break. You want to make sure that you dont go too far.
I prefer to just pick a bunch in the approx right diameter and cut them long.
then straighten and cut where they spine the closest. you will find you end up with different diameters at the same spine.
Then I try to weight match them to some close degree when I plug the ends with dowel... by adding longer/shorter dowels etc.
that is why I said pick a bunch. More than you need.
others will chime in
luck
wade
Title: Re: Cain Shooters....Help
Post by: JackCrafty on July 17, 2008, 05:13:48 pm
This is how I made my last batch of phragmites arrows:

1. Cut the reeds at a point where they are about 1/2" diameter at the big end.
2. Cut off the other end @ 40".
3. Match nodes as closely as I can (nock and point), then cut to length...depending on draw length (mine is between 22-26").  I leave about 2" of reed in front of the "point" node for the foreshaft.  If I line up the nock nodes, the point nodes are not more than 3/4" out of alignment.
4. Trim or sand nodes.
5. Weigh and match within 20 grains.
6. Straighten.
7. Spine to match within 10% deflection.
8. Cut, sand, weigh, and match foreshafts.
9. Add foreshafts.  The heaviest foreshafts are attached to the lightest shafts.
10. Cut nocks and shoot to test (without fletching).  Weed out "crazy" fliers.
11. Add points.
12. Weigh and spine entire arrow....just for grins.
13. Paint.
14. Fletch.

I don't mess with the shaft diameters at all (except to trim the nodes).  I get about 3 matched arrows for every 20-30 reeds...depending on how many break during the construction process.  ;D
Title: Re: Cain Shooters....Help
Post by: Hillbilly on July 17, 2008, 05:21:17 pm
I never mess with the diameter of cane. I just try to get them as close as I can by hand-flexing, and they usually fly great. Cane just seems to be much more spine-tolerant than wood shafting.
Title: Re: Cain Shooters....Help
Post by: agd68 on July 18, 2008, 01:49:34 pm
Thanks for the info.