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Title: Laminated Bow - BBO Double Curve, Inset Handle
Post by: snedeker on July 30, 2008, 06:01:48 pm
62" ntn, 55# at 27", 1&3/16 wide at fade, 7/16 tips with brown sage inlays.  Ipe power lam 13" long, walnut and hickory built up handle. This is poor osage with thick early growth I cut.  Dry heated ub the curves.  Based on a combination of the concepts of Ryan's plains bow and Frank's bows, both double curved, from back in the winter.  Sort of northern plains meets s. asia.  Its a nice design for this wood.  Good cast and smooth.

Dave

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Title: Re: Laminated Bow - BBO Double Curve, Inset Handle
Post by: david w. on July 30, 2008, 06:04:35 pm
That is awesome!  I love it! :)   Great bow :)
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Post by: Badger on July 30, 2008, 06:05:28 pm
Nice job Dave, beautiful bow.  Steve
Title: Re: Laminated Bow - BBO Double Curve, Inset Handle
Post by: wytetale on July 30, 2008, 06:59:40 pm
I really like the profile, sweet bow
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Post by: The Burnt Hill Archer on July 30, 2008, 07:08:25 pm
That is just about gorgeous! i love the unbraced profile. good job!

Phil
Title: Re: Laminated Bow - BBO Double Curve, Inset Handle
Post by: jwillis on July 30, 2008, 07:21:36 pm
That looks really good.  Jim
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Post by: brian melton on July 30, 2008, 08:06:46 pm
Really nice Dave!! ;D
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Post by: radius on July 30, 2008, 08:10:01 pm
yessir that is one fine weapon, amigo
Title: Re: Laminated Bow - BBO Double Curve, Inset Handle
Post by: medicinewheel on July 30, 2008, 08:43:38 pm

FANTASTIC !!!

frank
Title: Re: Laminated Bow - BBO Double Curve, Inset Handle
Post by: knightd on July 30, 2008, 08:44:03 pm
Good looking bow.. I like that design..

 David
Title: Re: Laminated Bow - BBO Double Curve, Inset Handle
Post by: snedeker on July 30, 2008, 09:07:28 pm
Thanks.  I lost a leeetle too much of the curve on the end of the top limb in the draw.  The lower limb looks like its bending a touch more but I think there a little more deflexed bend mid limb there, producing that effect.  I have three sister slats I plan compare other designs on with the same specs.

Dave
Title: Re: Laminated Bow - BBO Double Curve, Inset Handle
Post by: radius on July 30, 2008, 09:08:19 pm
I want to make one like that...could you give me some pointers, please?  Do you have pictures of the process so you could do a buildalong?  I would really appreciate that....What a cool design!

Scott
Title: Re: Laminated Bow - BBO Double Curve, Inset Handle
Post by: ThimoS on July 30, 2008, 09:40:57 pm
Hey Dave that's a sweet looking bow there buddy.
Title: Re: Laminated Bow - BBO Double Curve, Inset Handle
Post by: Justin Snyder on July 31, 2008, 12:54:01 am
Sweet looking bow Dave.  Justin
Title: Re: Laminated Bow - BBO Double Curve, Inset Handle
Post by: radius on July 31, 2008, 01:16:51 am
WELL.....(&(*(&*&(#$&^!!!!!!

I liked it so much I went out to the shop and glued up a couple laminations into a good copy.  I used 2 f-clamps to hold down the center (4 inches from outside to outside of the clamps).  Then I placed a 1.5" block 6.5 " out from each of those clamps, to reflex the limbs.  I placed 4" blocks under the tips, and 6.5" in from the tips I used f-clamps to create recurves...brought the limbs down so that they were 2.25" from the benchtop. 

I used TB2.  The laminations are of edge-grained white ash.

The bottle says clamp time 30 minutes.  I went out for an hour, came back, undid the thing and POP!  the lams came apart.  Usually I wait overnight, but I wanted to leave the shop clean for my buddy (whose shop it really is)...now they're no good.  Have to start again....G'dammit!
Title: Re: Laminated Bow - BBO Double Curve, Inset Handle
Post by: Gordon on July 31, 2008, 02:19:53 am
Did you heat the curves in after the bamboo was glued up?
Title: Re: Laminated Bow - BBO Double Curve, Inset Handle
Post by: Badger on July 31, 2008, 04:40:23 am
Radius, how did you apply pressure to the laminations, you need to leave it clamped at least 12 hours in dry weather. Did you wrap it in inner tubes?  Steve
Title: Re: Laminated Bow - BBO Double Curve, Inset Handle
Post by: snedeker on July 31, 2008, 07:45:01 am
I pretillered the 9/16" osage slat and heated in the curves like it was a selfbow, then glued on the power lam,then the bamboo.

Red mahogany stain on all by the way.
Title: Re: Laminated Bow - BBO Double Curve, Inset Handle
Post by: Ryano on July 31, 2008, 10:16:39 am
Nice bow Dave!  :)
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Post by: Woodland Roamer on July 31, 2008, 10:23:50 am
Great looking bow Dave, nice job.

Alan
Title: Re: Laminated Bow - BBO Double Curve, Inset Handle
Post by: a finnish native on July 31, 2008, 10:36:11 am
very elegant.
Title: Re: Laminated Bow - BBO Double Curve, Inset Handle
Post by: DanaM on July 31, 2008, 11:02:59 am
Nice looking bow dave :)
Title: Re: Laminated Bow - BBO Double Curve, Inset Handle
Post by: radius on July 31, 2008, 11:24:18 am
Radius, how did you apply pressure to the laminations, you need to leave it clamped at least 12 hours in dry weather. Did you wrap it in inner tubes?  Steve

wrapped it in plastic, clamped it into place, then added a pressure board and clamps between the clamps that were holding the shape...next time i will leave it longer...usually, my blanks retain their shape...
Title: Re: Laminated Bow - BBO Double Curve, Inset Handle
Post by: Hillbilly on July 31, 2008, 12:46:25 pm
Sweet! I like that profile.
Title: Re: Laminated Bow - BBO Double Curve, Inset Handle
Post by: OldBow on July 31, 2008, 12:48:31 pm
Dave - that is one of the best bows you have ever made.  And bookmarked #1 for August Laminated Bows of the Month
Title: Re: Laminated Bow - BBO Double Curve, Inset Handle
Post by: Pat B on July 31, 2008, 02:07:28 pm
Very nice, Dave. The braced and unbraced profile are quite sexy!     Pat
Title: Re: Laminated Bow - BBO Double Curve, Inset Handle
Post by: snedeker on August 01, 2008, 11:10:58 am
Radius, I have noticed that clamp time on the glue container too. They certainly don't mean something under tension.   Of course this one of mine was done by heat bending a core piece, not through form glue up.  I used simple form tp get a little more reflex in the boo glue up.  My booo was from just a 2.75 inch diameter pole

Dave
Title: Re: Laminated Bow - BBO Double Curve, Inset Handle
Post by: Rich Saffold on August 01, 2008, 01:42:20 pm
Looks real good Dave!
Title: Re: Laminated Bow - BBO Double Curve, Inset Handle
Post by: sknight199017 on August 02, 2008, 12:12:42 am
This is a really nice bow.