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Main Discussion Area => Flintknapping => Topic started by: PeteDavis on August 16, 2008, 03:19:58 pm

Title: Kirk Points Please...
Post by: PeteDavis on August 16, 2008, 03:19:58 pm
...around western Virginia, the Kirk tradition is by far the most abundant early Archaic point found, especially in the mountain sites. Here's my little take on it, you can be a kid again, just make your own! From left: stemmed, serrated and corner notched. C'mon fellers'(and gals) show your Kirks, please!
PD
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Title: Re: Kirk Points Please...
Post by: sonny on August 16, 2008, 03:55:47 pm
those are cool !! what material did you make them from ??

I especially like how you thinned the base of the stemmed point. would make hafting a little simpler it seems....
Title: Re: Kirk Points Please...
Post by: PeteDavis on August 16, 2008, 04:08:57 pm
texas flint on the left two, flint ridge on the right

The F.R. is waaay easier!

PD
Title: Re: Kirk Points Please...
Post by: FlintWalker on August 17, 2008, 12:49:06 pm
Here's one from Cowboy. It's out of some of that tough Texas stuff too.   Saw Filer

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Title: Re: Kirk Points Please...
Post by: Otoe Bow on August 17, 2008, 07:14:56 pm
I'm happy to get a pointy end and a broader end.  I've a lot to learn before I classify them as a particular style. 

Great job there Pete.

Mike
Title: Re: Kirk Points Please...
Post by: PeteDavis on August 19, 2008, 08:57:46 pm
Awwright...here's another'n....thinner and more refined...

Texas flint, heat-treated

James, this is what you had on at the Schiele if memory serves me correctly-I think I am pretty close...

Looks like a good hunting point...worked for thousands of years!

PD

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Title: Re: Kirk Points Please...
Post by: james parker on August 19, 2008, 09:33:05 pm
very nice pete,and very close to mine.....james
Title: Re: Kirk Points Please...
Post by: Woodland Roamer on August 19, 2008, 09:55:33 pm
That's a really nice kirk there Pete.

Alan
Title: Re: Kirk Points Please...
Post by: PeteDavis on August 19, 2008, 11:36:09 pm
Thanks fellers.....of course, I started out with a bigger piece!
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Just joshin, y'all. I stuck that one, in a wall~
PD
Title: Re: Kirk Points Please...
Post by: cowboy on August 19, 2008, 11:46:58 pm
You guys are killin me with alll  the fine points, I've been so busy getting my bows and arra'a made that I've not had the time to knap. Great work Pete and Shannon!!
Title: Re: Kirk Points Please...
Post by: Otoe Bow on August 20, 2008, 12:22:49 am
Nice point there Pete.  You going to hunt with it?

I know how you feel Paul.  Busy, but not making bows or arrows.  I promise I'll at least hunt with something other than FG this year.  I promise not to hunt with FG.  I promise not to hunt with FG.  I promise......

Mike
Title: Re: Kirk Points Please...
Post by: Justin Snyder on August 20, 2008, 01:00:23 am
I'm happy to get a pointy end and a broader end.  I've a lot to learn before I classify them as a particular style. 

Great job there Pete.

Mike
What a great statement Mike. It represents me so perfectly.  ;D Justin
Title: Re: Kirk Points Please...
Post by: hawkbow on August 20, 2008, 01:32:26 am
Very nice points brothers, they look even sweeter with a little crimson on them  ;) Hawk a/ho
Title: Re: Kirk Points Please...
Post by: Hillbilly on August 20, 2008, 08:46:36 am
Good looking points, Pete.
Title: Re: Kirk Points Please...
Post by: Postman on August 20, 2008, 09:45:54 am
Beautiful points- you in western VA? I'm in shenandoah co. (Mt. Jackson) there's a ring of rocks  "hut site" next to one of my improvised ground blinds in the GW Nat'l forest. Love sitting on stand imagining what it was liike back in the day. What else can you tell me about western VA tribes? 

Thanks
Postman
Title: Re: Kirk Points Please...
Post by: PeteDavis on August 20, 2008, 10:21:12 pm
Rockbridge County, sir.
Here's 8-20-08....
really an accumulation of errors but, looks about right...
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Title: Re: Kirk Points Please...
Post by: cowboy on August 21, 2008, 11:38:46 am
Looks like you've been busy Pete - that's a fine looking point. That knapping is some quality therapy :). You'll start flipping those points back and forth scrutinizing every ridge and valley and develop a sense of how to read the rock - before ya know it, you'll not have a step or hinge anywhere - just smooth tapering feathered out flakes. Ahhhh ;) ;D.
Title: Re: Kirk Points Please...
Post by: PeteDavis on August 21, 2008, 08:59:06 pm
...8-21-08...

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Title: Re: Kirk Points Please...
Post by: cowboy on August 21, 2008, 09:02:43 pm
Yer killin me! the symmetry and notching are superb! - how long did you say you've been knapping?
Title: Re: Kirk Points Please...
Post by: PeteDavis on August 21, 2008, 09:04:18 pm
I started on 6-30-08

It's time to get serious!

I'm headin' to Flint Ridge!

PD
Title: Re: Kirk Points Please...
Post by: cowboy on August 21, 2008, 09:07:44 pm
Well I'd say you've got ton's of talent and you'll go far - mind givin me some lessons in a few month's ;D? Flint ridge or bust!!
Title: Re: Kirk Points Please...
Post by: FlintWalker on August 21, 2008, 09:16:42 pm
That right there...is proof that some people just have it in their blood.  He must have been a master knapper in a past life, and the way it looks, will become one in this  life. ;)
Title: Re: Kirk Points Please...
Post by: Hillbilly on August 21, 2008, 09:50:48 pm
Shannon, I agree-and I'd say the same thing about you, too.  :)
Title: Re: Kirk Points Please...
Post by: PeteDavis on August 21, 2008, 10:01:17 pm
Thanks y'all. I am enjoying this, it seems as though I am making up for lost time somehow. I may need new shocks when I get back from Ohio.....I plan to load 'er down so I can get 'er done.

PD
Title: Re: Kirk Points Please...
Post by: PeteDavis on August 22, 2008, 09:27:12 pm
8-22-08

Indiana Hornstone-it's too darn thick (1/4'+)

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PD
Title: Re: Kirk Points Please...
Post by: cowboy on August 22, 2008, 10:43:11 pm
Those look like carbon copies! I wouldn't be afraid to send any of em toward a deer come bow season. Those are nice!
Title: Re: Kirk Points Please...
Post by: PeteDavis on August 23, 2008, 04:46:29 pm
arkansas novaculite

8-23-08

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PD
Title: Re: Kirk Points Please...
Post by: cowboy on August 23, 2008, 04:48:16 pm
Don't you work? Your havin too much fun ::) ;D.