Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: adb on September 19, 2008, 10:26:16 pm
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Hi, all
This is for ravenbeak. I traded him a yew stave for some SSs a while back.
I just finished this today after work. I've been working on it for about a month. To say the least, it's been a challenge. Lots of character. It's 70" OAL, 67.5" NTN, 57# @ 27". Whitetail antler nocks. Strunk style grip.
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A couple more pics.
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That is a great looking bow! Jawge
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This was the bow I was asking about whether I should back with rawhide earlier today. Needless to say, I didn't. After Pat B's advice, I just left it unbacked. I did burnish the back, and then oiled it and finished it with bees wax. I think it's going to hold up fine.
Full draw pics will come tomorrow. My wife isn't home, and I want to shoot it in a bit more before I give the nod for final tiller. This is my first yew self bow by the way... from start to finish, anyway.
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very nice job tiller and nocks look super brock
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Wow... Very nice bow. How thick is the sapwood?
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Great.
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Thats a beautiful bow. I have a stave from ravenbeak as well I need to get started on.
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really nice work on those tips!
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Great looking bow the nocks are cool!
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A full draw image would be great!
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Thanks, everyone. Full draw pic should be coming today. I want to shoot it a bit more today, and then check final tiller.
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Just looking at the pic myself, I think maybe the middle of the top limb is a bit stiff. There was a rather challenging swoop in the sapwood, with a knot at that point. I think I'll shoot it a bit more, and see how it comes out. It has developed about 1" of string follow immediately after unbrace, but comes almost to flat after resting.
Limey-Josh... the sapwood varies, but averages at about 3/8".
Thanks to ravenbeak for the stave!!! I wasn't sure I could make a bow from it!
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adb, what can I say.... I LOVE IT!!
of course being slightly particular about yew and that tree in general might help a bit but it looks great.
I love the colour (canadian spelling) of the yew after it is freshly sanded, the white sapwood is so white, It will darken nicely over time.
Great shot looking down the limb to see the sapwood heartwood intersection, I always debate about thinning of the sapwood versus leaving it full. I think a 50 50 ratio is what we're after, as i've heard heartwood is better in compression and sapwood in tension. looks like you nailed it.
tips look awesome, very traditional longbowish. The grip turned out perfect and I love the tiller.
In case you couldn't tell yet, I love it.
hope it serves you for many years and I really look forward to seeing what you can do with the other "nicer" stave.
cheers,
Jamie
thanks to the PA trading forum for making this possible, I am the proud owner of a pair of matching black cobra snakeskins waiting the right bow. now that's a win win
This is bow number three from a blow down tree i found and there's lots of us out there with staves from this same tree.
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What a beautiful bow. As usual with your work.
Dane
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I really like what you did with the horn nocks. I've never seen that.
It looks like you cut the tips at a angle, glued the nocks on, and then shape... rather than file the tips to a point and seat the nock over them?
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There is some real craftsmanship in this bow. The tips are amazing! Great candidate for September Self BOM
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You did a really nice job following the back on that bow. And the craftsmanship is top-totch.
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Thanks for the +ve feedback everyone.
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adb, the bow looks great. The proof is in the shooting. Congratulations. Jawge
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Thanks, George
After bringing the brace height up to 6", it's been shooting really sweet. It plunks 'em right where I'm lookin'! At 57#, it's nice and flat out to 30 yards. I'm in love!
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Gotta say I think you nailed that one, from the tips to the tiller its all well done. Fantastic bow and thanks for sharing. :)
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You've set a high standard for all the others with staves from the same tree.
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Hmmm, looking at that tiller I see both at brace and full draw way to much bending at the handle.
I guess it migth work, but I wouldn't trust that bow longevity wise,...but that again I'm just a beginner, what do I know.
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Looks to me like its got a natural deflexed area comming out of the handle in the lower limb which makes it look like its bending there more than it realy is Manny. Look at the unbraced picture. Just my speculation.
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Well, Manny, I guess we'll see. It's an ELB, so it was tillered to bend "full compass."
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Looks good to me adb - love those tips and that tiller looks pretty darn good ta boot :).
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....As I said, I'm just a beginner, and that's what my beginner's eyes are still seeing.
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I'm curious, how wide and thick is your bow near the handle and at the tips? I am working on my first yew self-bow and am not quite sure what to expect.
Thanks.
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Hey, Gordon
I started with 1 1/2" at the middle, extending for 10" on each side of center, and then a continuous taper to 1/2" tips. I tried to keep the thickness to the 7/8 rule of the BLBS, where the bow ends up not quite as thick as it is wide. D section profile, of course! This is the only way to go with yew. However, having said that, I'm thinking of making a yew flat bow, with wider limbs, a built up riser, and more elliptical tiller. I have a naturally reflexed stave, and I want to try something other than a traditional ELB. I'm by no means an expert with yew. Someone like Marc St Louis would be a good person to ask. Good luck. I really enjoyed making the yew bow, it's amazing wood.
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Hey, Manny
I have a proposition for you. I think a lot of people on this forum are really tired of listening to us argue and bicker. I think it detracts from the true intent of this forum, which is the sharing of bow making information. It's obvious we don't like each other, but that happens in this world. Maybe, in the interests of peace and harmony, we could just avoid each other form now on? Your comments don't seem genuine or positive, and your sarcasim about "being just a beginner" is unappreciated. I've tried, through PMs, to bury the hatchet with you, but it hasn't worked. What do you say we just give each other a wide berth? I'll avoid comments on your threads if you avoid mine. Thanks.
To the Mods & Admins: this is an attempt at peace, not continued controversy. I hope you let it stand.
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"Picture perfect" tiller is fine for pictures (LOL), adb, but the proof is how it shoots. Personally, there's a tad too much bending in the handle to suit me and may account for some of the hand shock you are feeling. Could be what Ryan said too. Anyway, it shoots fine. It's a wrap! Well done. Peace is a good, also! :) Jawge
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Hey, George
With proper brace height, there is no hand shock when shooting this bow. I'm happy with the way it is. For my first self yew, and a character stave to boot, I'm pretty pleased.
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I'm pretty pleased.
And that is all that matters, That your pleased :) Once again nice bow.
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Yes, adb, that is all that matters! Enjoy your beautiful bow. :) Jawge
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What my eyes see is too much bend in the middle and too strait limbs, all in all not a plesant arc,..again, just in my eyes.
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Fine looking bow adb,love the tips and finish work.If it shoots good for you that is the main thing.
Nice job. :) Right Jawge,Peace is a good thing. :)
Pappy
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Beautiful bow adb. I'm building up a respect for yew. I've only made a few yew bows but will continue to and put them through their paces. I pretty hard on my bows so they have to be able to take it.
I love the way you have done the tips. Has the appearance of typical horn nocks without the headaches of making horn nocks. ;)
I build bows for myself. I appreciate comments and suggestions from others and apply them when necessary but if I like it, that is how it stays. 8)
Pat
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Peace is always good, Pappy. Jawge
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in the least, beautiful. im sure the antlers were hell to get on, but the bow is something to be proud of. -jimmy
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Hey, Everyone
Since posting this bow a month ago, I've tweaked it a bit. Besides putting a couple hundred arrows through it, I re-tillered the top limb just a hair. I got the middle of the top limb bending just a bit more.
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well, the tiller looks great- actully, mine has alot of bend in the handle /lower limb, i see yours is similar-good work man -jimmy
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My intention was to make a true ELB... bending "full compass" through the handle. It wasn't a perfect piece of yew, and I wanted to make sure everything was working, to avoid over stress.
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Looks real good to me Adam, i love the full draw pic !
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That is a wonderful bow. You may not think the wood was "perfect" but it sure look clean, at least what we can see form the pics. Tiller looks dang good from Montana. Dave
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That is a good looking full draw.I think it probably shoots nice too huh ? There you go. Frank
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Mighty classy, good job, and enjoy. Kenneth
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Love it!!!!!
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Very nice bow Adb. The angle on the antler tips and groves is right on and the proportions on sapwood to heartwood is perfect. Also the rework on the tiller is spot on. Congratulations on a very nice bow. Keenan