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Title: hickory-backed jatoba ELB
Post by: medicinewheel on October 12, 2008, 03:33:26 pm

my neighbor Burkhard is registered on PA, but i don't think he ever posted; he says his english is not so good! i'm sure he'll chime in...

i glued up a stave of hickory-backed jatoba (brazilian cherry) for him that he turned into a fine longbow at my workshop during the summer.
the bow turned out great, a sweet shooter of shortly 60#@28" (weight has not been checked after shooting the bow in)
the stave was glued inducing 1/2" of reflex and the bow has less than an inch of set right after unbracing.
we went for some 3-D shooting today (he beat me) and there we took the pics!

so here is Burkhard and his first bow!

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Title: Re: hickory-backed jatoba ELB
Post by: Gordon on October 12, 2008, 03:37:04 pm
That's a really good looking bow - I bet he is proud of it. How long is it?
Title: Re: hickory-backed jatoba ELB
Post by: medicinewheel on October 12, 2008, 03:37:49 pm
when he made the bow he ran out of time to get the bow ready for a tournement he wanted to shoot, so i helped him out making bloodwood overlays and a handle lace for the bow.
the handle has been build up with cork, too.

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Title: Re: hickory-backed jatoba ELB
Post by: medicinewheel on October 12, 2008, 03:39:03 pm
That's a really good looking bow - I bet he is proud of it. How long is it?

forgot how long it is, i guess 68" ntn; will check on that later!
Title: Re: hickory-backed jatoba ELB
Post by: Bowbound on October 12, 2008, 04:39:32 pm
That's a nice bow...
The bloodwood tips are real nice. Overall a work of art.
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Post by: tpoof on October 12, 2008, 04:44:59 pm
very nice, woods look great together,,,, crisp!
Title: Re: hickory-backed jatoba ELB
Post by: Badger on October 12, 2008, 05:23:32 pm
  The bow looks great, I have about given up on jatoba, I would say 80% of my jatoba bows have chrysaled. I really like the wood up until it hits it's limit then no warning at all and the belly is crushed. Steve
Title: Re: hickory-backed jatoba ELB
Post by: Cromm on October 12, 2008, 06:23:13 pm
Nice work and nice photo's!!
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Post by: Badbill on October 12, 2008, 06:41:46 pm
Tips are very sweet! ;D
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Post by: hawkbow on October 12, 2008, 06:47:08 pm
great looking bow, love the bloodwood tips... Hawk
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Post by: OldBow on October 13, 2008, 12:01:12 am
I'm in Los Angeles but I forwarded this fine bow as a bookmark for Oct Laminate BOM. Quite the bow.
Title: Re: hickory-backed jatoba ELB
Post by: Pappy on October 13, 2008, 06:04:16 am
Very nice bow,beautiful finish work. :)
   Pappy
Title: Re: hickory-backed jatoba ELB
Post by: Buggi on October 13, 2008, 12:34:00 pm
@ medicinewheel: Thanks for help and the nice presentation of my bow.

@ all: Thanks for complements

Burkhard
Title: Re: hickory-backed jatoba ELB
Post by: DanaM on October 13, 2008, 02:20:51 pm
Very nive bow, well done Burkhard :)
Title: Re: hickory-backed jatoba ELB
Post by: Asiertxu on October 13, 2008, 05:50:11 pm
Really nice bow there Medicine!!.. 8)...

Cheers..

Asier.
Title: Re: hickory-backed jatoba ELB
Post by: The Burnt Hill Archer on October 13, 2008, 08:32:00 pm
beautiful! i really like the tips. well done!

Phil
Title: Re: hickory-backed jatoba ELB
Post by: longfletch on October 14, 2008, 03:20:32 pm
sweet looking bow, love the dark red color on the tips.

a little off subject..that knife on your waist is interesting, what type is it? looks kinda like a seax, would love to see some pics of it

bryan
Title: Re: hickory-backed jatoba ELB
Post by: adb on October 14, 2008, 03:36:26 pm
Very nice bow, Burkhard!!
I tried a maple backed jatoba once, and it broke... totally my fault, not the wood. Jatoba has a really beautiful reddish color. A well done bow, all around. Have fun shooting it! Can you guys bow hunt in Germany?
Pics of your knife would be cool!
Title: Re: hickory-backed jatoba ELB
Post by: Jesse on October 14, 2008, 10:40:12 pm
Bow looks great.  :o Well done.
                                       Jesse
Title: Re: hickory-backed jatoba ELB
Post by: Buggi on October 15, 2008, 01:00:19 pm
@ longfletch & adb: I´ll take some Pics of the knife and send them to you on email.

Bowhunting is not allowed in Germany. So we shoot at 3D-Targets.

Title: Re: hickory-backed jatoba ELB
Post by: cowboy on October 15, 2008, 02:06:17 pm
Nice Frank and Burkhard! Like those finishing touches and love the contrasting bloodwood tips..
Title: Re: hickory-backed jatoba ELB
Post by: medicinewheel on October 16, 2008, 02:42:15 am

thanks guys! - yes, i think the hickory/jatoba combo worked really well; jatoba is a nice wood to work with, it's dust doesn't bug you and it's easy to achieve a nice smooth surface.
badger: it was my first personal experience with jatoba, we didn't have a problem with chrysals. but the bow is not build to the extreme.
i know of one guy who had a problem with jatoba chrysals but that was in a hinge!
thanks, frank
Title: Re: hickory-backed jatoba ELB
Post by: islandpiper on October 16, 2008, 11:20:06 pm
medicinewheel.......wow........i'm speechless.  That is a display of artisan-ship we don't get to see every day.  Remember, an artisan makes things of use, not art.  Bravo!!

Now, the question, and perhaps i should start a new thread: 

No one ever seems to post hickory/hickory bows.    I would like to try this......one thick and one thin slice of hickory, to "average" some of the grain issues and allow some reflex to be glued in with no heat treating.   any feedback , anyone?   

thanks, piper    (and again, medicinewheel , great work)
Title: Re: hickory-backed jatoba ELB
Post by: medicinewheel on October 17, 2008, 02:08:01 am
well piper, i guess the reason for that is hickory is not as good in compression as it is in tension.
i've done hickory/hickory - and i'm sure it's been done a lot, but it's not a very good combination.
thanks for the compliments!
frank
Title: Re: hickory-backed jatoba ELB
Post by: Buggi on October 17, 2008, 05:06:45 am
As several times desired : here are the pics of the knife




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Post by: GregB on October 17, 2008, 08:25:53 am
Beautiful bow! Great job on it! Knifes are really nice as well!  ;)
Title: Re: hickory-backed jatoba ELB
Post by: Buggi on October 20, 2008, 03:02:10 pm
Some information about the knife:

Length: Blade 19cm (7,5"); overall 31cm (12,2")
I bought it czech repiblic in 1995.

Buggi
Title: Re: hickory-backed jatoba ELB
Post by: Buggi on October 28, 2008, 10:13:59 am
The sheath was made by a czech-saddler and is chased.
There is a ram and a rune on it!

Buggi
Title: Re: hickory-backed jatoba ELB
Post by: Keenan on October 28, 2008, 10:51:37 am
 Very nice bow Frank, and the knife is neat as well,  I did a bamboo backed Jatoba once that was an R/D profile but I didn't thin the boo enough and overpowered the Jatoba. Still shoots but developed some chrysals
Title: Re: hickory-backed jatoba ELB
Post by: Sparrow on October 28, 2008, 11:36:25 am
 Beautiful bow, really cool knife. Thanks for sharing. Frank
Title: Re: hickory-backed jatoba ELB
Post by: medicinewheel on October 28, 2008, 12:36:44 pm
...  I did a bamboo backed Jatoba once that was an R/D profile but I didn't thin the boo enough and overpowered the Jatoba. Still shoots but developed some chrysals

yes, i believe hickory is the better choise for a backing with jatoba!
as i mentioned above the combo worked well in this bow here.
the bow has a really nice peformance and buggi shoots her well!
in general i believe with these south-american woods you ought to look for uncurled boards; i had ipé chrysaling in a curl!
frank