Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Shooting and Hunting => Topic started by: Ranger B on October 21, 2008, 07:42:49 pm
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Today I got on the stand at 5:30 a.m. and right after daylight I heard the turkeys coming off the roost and almost immediately they began cackling. I saw them running and then saw a coyote chasing them. I saw no deer! After about an hour he got too close to my stand and I drilled him right behind the shoulder. He took off and in about another hour a little 6 pointer came in. He walked around for a while and when he started to leave I gave him a couple of gently grunts and he circled back for another look then eased out. When I got off the stand I followed where the coyote had run. I knew he couldn't be far. About 50 yards from my stand I saw the only blood and then at about 60 yards I saw my arrow, broken in two and bloody from feathers to the end, but no coyote. I searched for that coyote for over an hour and nothing. Is this typical? Are they hard to track and can they run longer than a deer?
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I shot one once a couple years ago with my bow. But it was almost a straight down shot from my tree stand and the arrow passed threw it right between the shoulder blades. It ran around 75 to a hundred yards before it crawled in a hole under a blow down tree where the roots had pulled up out of the ground. Mine bled like crazy the whole way, wasnt that hard to track. They are definetley tough critters though. 8)
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They are really good at hiding when wounded.They usually won't just lay down in the open. Frank
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Man your on a role Ranger. Sorry you didn't find him. yotes are tuff critters and after all that fur is off they are fairly small bodies. I've shot two with bow and several with rifles and they can be brutal tuff. One time I hit one with a .223 AR , quarted away and from behind the shoulder, blew out his chest and he was still alive chewing on his own leg. Kind of errie to see that.
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I have shot coyotes through the chest with .223 and 22-250 and had them run 200 yards before they dropped. They can be real tough to kill and even harder to find. Justin
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Well, I guess that explains it. I was disappointed not to find him. I hit him right behind the shoulder at 8 yards or so. Didn't think he would go far and already had a new quiver in mind with his hide. Maybe next time.
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Good luck this morning. Also something to think about,sometimes it ant right where you think it is.
Right behind the shoulder mid way up he shouldest have gone to far.The couple I have killed with a bow didn't go far but both went under a bunch of brush. :)
Pappy
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Jimmy, sorry you didn't find him...I've shot at a couple, but so far haven't connected... :)
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They're tough critters. I shot one with a 30/06 150 grain core-lokt that went probably close to a hundred yards. It blew one side of its chest out, literally a fist-sized hole. I was tracking it not by blood, but by ribs, hearts, livers, lungs and stuff strown along the ground. I was amazed at how far it went after having its chest cavity almost completely cleaned out.
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You guys have probably seen this one.....just thought it was interesting. The archer shoots the coyote square between the eyes.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2P1uyeRqjBo&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2P1uyeRqjBo&feature=related)
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You didn't tell me I was supposed to aim at the head. I shot the vitals like on Twin Oaks 3D targets. I need another try ;D ;D
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we shot a crap load of them last year, but we lost of them- they almsot always ran in the river, if the blood wasn't too good, there wasn't much chance if it went in the river. we were also using 30-06 and 17 hmr though, my god, you're on a roll man! sorry you couldn't find em though. good luck hunting though man, i wouldn't shoot a coyote in the head tho , that guy had a wheelie bow :P what a noob ;D I could just imagine an arrow deflecting right off it, and the thing starring up at me and laughing, while I fumble around trying to knock another arrow-lol. jimmy
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what could you use besides the hide on a cyote? i realize they're vermin kinda (no limit where I'm at and a lllooonnnngggg season) but shouldn't you be worried about if they were rabid?
Zander
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They chase and kill just about every game animal I hunt. That one was chasing the turkeys. I fly helicopters in the Army and at night I see them chasing deer all over Fort Campbell. You can hunt them year round in TN and there is no limit for a good reason. I don't mind killing one for his hide at all, but that's just me.
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The eat pretty good,a little stringy tho ,about like a border Collie ;) ;D ;D I save the hide and teeth. :)
Pappy
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yeah I figured the hide, teeth, and claws, and trust me, I see them all the time, and if they get in range I'll drill em so they don't eat my dogs, but isn't there a pretty good chance that they got rabiese in which case it would be dangerous to touch em'?
Zander
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Eating the meat will not transmit rabies to you......unless you eat the brain or other nervous tissue.
Here is a quote from the Center of Disease Control:
Rabies virus is found primarily in saliva and in the tissues of the central nervous system, especially the brain. It's usually spread through the bite of an infected animal.
It can also be transmitted if the animal's saliva or nervous tissue gets into your eyes, nose, mouth, or an open wound or scratch. Airborne transmission is possible but rare—it's more of a concern for laboratory workers who handle animals, or in moist caves with little ventilation.
You cannot catch rabies from contact with blood, feces, urine, or scent glands. The rabies virus hitches a ride up the nerves, traveling directly from the bite wound to the brain. Later on, it may travel from the nerves to other organs, but it never enters the blood. That said, if the animal's head has been damaged, there could be spinal tissue or fluid mixed in with splattered blood. Animals may catch rabies by eating infected animals. Rabies might be passed from mother to offspring in the womb. However, when people encounter very young animals that are rabid, it's more likely that they were infected after they were born, either from contact with their mother or another rabid animal.
Although deadly, the rabies virus is actually fragile. It can be destroyed by exposure to sunlight (UV light).
http://www.cdc.gov/RABIES/exposure/types.html
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wow, thats interesting, so I don't suppose handling the freshly pulled saliva covered teeth with knapping cuts on your hands would be the best idea lol :D
Zander
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I kill them for the hide all the time. Some critters are meant for eating and some are only good for hides. As far as I'm concerned coyotes are just hides. Justin
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yeah, I imagine if I ate it I would probably be uncomfortabe and thinking about dog (meat is probably super tuff and stringy too) but I completely respect people who eat everything they kill, but I don't think I could stomach a cyote
Zander
PS: a cyote quiver would be wicked >:D
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I shot a red fox last year and thought I centered him at about ten yards. Blood trail started out as a big glob then easy tracking then harder tracking then totally lost the trail after a couple hundred yards. Complete pass thru, searched half day and even went and got my dogs, thought they might show some intrest in a clump of weeds or something and tip me off. Found a new place to hunt coyotes with a thick population, good off season hunting opportunity. Kenneth
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definetly right about the hides, I think the opposum is another in that book, they're just big rats, fat and slow. My dog chewed one up to hell last year, and my cousin killed one with a broomstick, both were big, fat and ugly ;D actually, i've heard coyote fur is real good insulation, like a labador coat, two layers for winter and such. the only ones i've seen deer hunting were far away, i've heard theyre pretty smart too, as far as senses.