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Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: YewArcher on November 01, 2008, 06:25:31 pm

Title: Sioux Double Curve Plains Bow
Post by: YewArcher on November 01, 2008, 06:25:31 pm: This is a Sioux Bows based off of one of the bows in Hamm and Allely’s books.

It is an ash “double curve” plains bow. The bow is sinew backed and has shiny minerals in the last coat of hide glue to make the back shimmer (per the original artifact).

42” long and 44#@22”.

I made this bow to start practicing the “pinch” draw of the Plains Indians. I have some arrows with bobulous nocks that I am finishing up.

Here is the bow un-braced, back and belly (you can see a hint of the shimmer on the back)

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d114/yewarcher/sioux%20bow/SiouxBow-unbraced.jpg)

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d114/yewarcher/sioux%20bow/SiouxBow-back.jpg)

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d114/yewarcher/sioux%20bow/SiouxBow-belly.jpg)

Here is the bow braced. All of the Sioux bows I have seen and studied have had an extremely low brace height.

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d114/yewarcher/sioux%20bow/SiouxBow-Braced.jpg)

The top nock with the horse hair pin and tuft.

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d114/yewarcher/sioux%20bow/SiouxBow-topnock1.jpg)

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d114/yewarcher/sioux%20bow/SiouxBow-topnock2.jpg)

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d114/yewarcher/sioux%20bow/SiouxBow-topnock3.jpg)

The bottom nock is spade shaped:

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d114/yewarcher/sioux%20bow/SiouxBow-bottomnock2.jpg)

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d114/yewarcher/sioux%20bow/SiouxBow-bottomnock3.jpg)

Its really hard to see the shimmer from the minerals in the photos. I did my best to try. Its pretty darn cool in person!

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d114/yewarcher/sioux%20bow/SiouxBow-mineralcloseup.jpg)

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d114/yewarcher/sioux%20bow/SiouxBow-mineralcloseup3.jpg)

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d114/yewarcher/sioux%20bow/SiouxBow-mineralcloseup4.jpg)

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d114/yewarcher/sioux%20bow/SiouxBow-mineralclsoeup2.jpg)

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d114/yewarcher/sioux%20bow/SiouxBow-mineralclsoeup3.jpg)

Here is the full draw:
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d114/yewarcher/sioux%20bow/siouxbow-fulldraw.jpg)

The original had quill work at the tips as well. My quill work is still not good enough to put on a bow. One of these days I hope it will get better!

Thanks for looking,

Steve
Title: Re: Sioux Double Curve Plains Bow
Post by: David Long on November 01, 2008, 07:04:23 pm: Beautiful shape to that thing. What kind of minerals did you mix with the glue? Very nice bow. How accurately can you shoot such a short bow as compared to your longer ones? Dave
Title: Re: Sioux Double Curve Plains Bow
Post by: armymedic.2 on November 01, 2008, 07:05:35 pm: pretty dang neat! did u use a form or heat to put the double curves in?
Title: Re: Sioux Double Curve Plains Bow
Post by: sailordad on November 01, 2008, 07:52:28 pm: ok now i want one of these short,sinewed bows. not really for me although i will get use out of it. my mom expressed and interest
in an indian style bow to hang on the wall next to her husbands old guns,model 12 12ga and an old winchester lever action rifle( over 100 yrs old )both of which are still shootible weapons
i told her i would see what i could do. now i have never made one of this types of bows yet. i really dont feel comfortable enough to attempt this as of yet.
i really like those double curve bows i have seen posted, so ifn anybody has one they may be intersted in getting rid of please p.m. me and lets see
what we can work out on a trade.
like i said though,it will need to be a usible bow and not just a wall hanger as i will shoot it and try to get good with too not just hang it up for her.

thanks

peace,
tim
Title: Re: Sioux Double Curve Plains Bow
Post by: George Tsoukalas on November 01, 2008, 08:44:52 pm: Congratulations on a beautiful bow. Jawge
Title: Re: Sioux Double Curve Plains Bow
Post by: welch2 on November 01, 2008, 10:05:50 pm: Nice bow ,again Steve ,I like that big piece of baleen too.

Ralph
Title: Re: Sioux Double Curve Plains Bow
Post by: medicinewheel on November 01, 2008, 10:25:27 pm: nice bow!
Title: Re: Sioux Double Curve Plains Bow
Post by: PeteC on November 01, 2008, 10:52:36 pm: That's a really nice replica.How does it shoot?
Title: Re: Sioux Double Curve Plains Bow
Post by: JackCrafty on November 02, 2008, 01:10:08 am: Awesome! ;D
Title: Re: Sioux Double Curve Plains Bow
Post by: Sidewinder on November 02, 2008, 01:37:12 am: Killer bow. I can't imagine a better exicuted rendition. Not that I'm an expert cuz I'm not, but truely a fan of the design. I Bet its fun to shoot and one heck of a good ambush bow. Are you getting comfortable with using the pinch draw? I have'nt tried it yet. Danny
Title: Re: Sioux Double Curve Plains Bow
Post by: Ryano on November 02, 2008, 07:22:53 am: Thats a nice little bow Steve. Good job.
Title: Re: Sioux Double Curve Plains Bow
Post by: sumpitan on November 02, 2008, 08:56:44 am: One of the most beautiful contemporary bows I've seen.

Tuukka
Title: Re: Sioux Double Curve Plains Bow
Post by: YewArcher on November 02, 2008, 09:15:39 am: David, I am not sure of the rock. My wife had some realy shiny stones from somewhere and we crushed them up and then I added it to the hide glue at the end of the sinew job.

Armymedic, Yes, I use heat to curve the bow. I use a form that has a few curves on it and do each curve by itself. If there is interstes in seeing the process then you guys let me know and I will post up a thred next time I do one.......wich should be in a week or so.

Welch, that baleen is cool right now it is slated for 2 double curved plains bows and a japanese short guards bow that I am trying to get mre detail on. If these is enough left over I will be making a greenland bow. There is not a lot of info on those though so we will see. Steve Moore Yewarcher recreating all the bows of the world! Ya! :)

PeteC, these all shoot real nice. I love them. They take some getting used to and a comitment to get the shooting style down.

Thanks there Ryano! and as you say Osage is better......if that was osage I would have drawn it 2-3" more. I let it stay at 22" as I have found the ash does not apricate the extreme overdraw. if osage was a person it would be a masochist as it loves to be punished. :o

Sumpitan, Thanks! That is a very nice compliment. Thanks a lot.

Steve
Title: Re: Sioux Double Curve Plains Bow
Post by: snakebow on November 02, 2008, 09:41:44 am: That bow is what I call a work of art. The sinew job is beautifull.
Title: Re: Sioux Double Curve Plains Bow
Post by: DanaM on November 02, 2008, 10:20:56 am: Wowsa :o I love your work absoulutely stunning :)
Title: Re: Sioux Double Curve Plains Bow
Post by: YewArcher on November 02, 2008, 11:24:27 am: Thanks Snake, I put a lot of effort and have practiced a lot to get sinew looking good. Thanks for the compliment.

Thanks Dana, Got to get together a Michigan Bow Build this spring.

Steve
Title: Re: Sioux Double Curve Plains Bow
Post by: OldBow on November 02, 2008, 12:38:24 pm: Looks authentic. Bookmarked for November Self Bow of the Month
Here's an original from the Cody, WY museum:

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Title: Re: Sioux Double Curve Plains Bow
Post by: a finnish native on November 02, 2008, 01:55:20 pm: one of the nicest bows I've seen on this site.
Good job!
Title: Re: Sioux Double Curve Plains Bow
Post by: Wooden bow on July 21, 2016, 08:54:42 am: That bow looks very graceful, and a nice sinew job! How many Layers of sinew did U put ?
Title: Re: Sioux Double Curve Plains Bow
Post by: BowEd on July 21, 2016, 08:57:49 am: Good work/investigation and follow through of your bow.Have fun learning the way they shot.
Title: Re: Sioux Double Curve Plains Bow
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on July 21, 2016, 08:57:58 am: Whoa! Dug op an oldy. Steve doesn't have hair anymore! :) I haven't seen him in a few years, here or in person.
Title: Re: Sioux Double Curve Plains Bow
Post by: Stick Bender on July 21, 2016, 03:13:17 pm: Awesome bow congrats !
Title: Re: Sioux Double Curve Plains Bow
Post by: JW_Halverson on July 21, 2016, 04:32:47 pm: A likely source of the "shimmery stone" would be the mica here in the Black Hills. It's in every streambed and is finer than most glitter you would buy and twice as sparkly. It's pretty easy to pan it out using a novice goldpanning technique. (lotsa people think they are pulling ounces of gold an hour only to find it ain't nothing but all natural organic stripper dust!)
Title: Re: Sioux Double Curve Plains Bow
Post by: Scottski on July 21, 2016, 09:13:09 pm: Very nice looking bow!
Title: Re: Sioux Double Curve Plains Bow
Post by: mullet on July 21, 2016, 09:17:57 pm: Can't believe we are responding to a thread this old I was going to say, JW, Mica or Pyrite. Both, sparkly.
Title: Re: Sioux Double Curve Plains Bow
Post by: loefflerchuck on July 21, 2016, 11:17:55 pm: Great work and attention to detail! I made this bow a few years ago too. Did you use mica?
Title: Re: Sioux Double Curve Plains Bow
Post by: Limbit on July 22, 2016, 02:42:14 am: I am interested in seeing you bend those curves in with your form, so next time you make one, please post some pics of your setup!
Title: Re: Sioux Double Curve Plains Bow
Post by: bradsmith2010 on July 22, 2016, 09:35:13 am: very nice congrats,, :)
Title: Re: Sioux Double Curve Plains Bow
Post by: Josh B on July 22, 2016, 09:56:02 am: ZOMBIE THREAD