Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Arrows => Topic started by: vCo2v on November 13, 2008, 02:22:35 pm
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I'm sure there's a thread about this somewhere, but was wondering what is the better hitter? As in what hits harder?
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I've not used either for arrows, but I would bet money it would be bamboo. Bamboo is a lot harder and stronger than cedar.
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Bamboo hands down,did a few tests with some arrows,all were shot with the same bow,same distance (15 yrds) and 25 inch draw.
Carbon(vapour 4000)exploded on brick wall
cedar shattered to about 5 pieces
bamboo bounced right off(no damage)
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Hi,
If you can get bamboo go for that. It's a bit more work but you get a longer lasting arrow,just as long as you don't lose it!!!
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thanks i guess bamboo will be the choice of arrows
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nothing, and i mean nothing, can hold a candle to a well made bamboo/cane arrow. shoot arrows are fairly tough, but to me, they are more work than bamboo.
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hey! cane and bamboo are the winners hands down, only problem is you can make 12 cedar arrows in hours and 12 cane/bamboo in a week or more.
btw, I'v screwed up the stainless steel points I put on cane arrows (by that I mean flattened them on rocks) and then after examining the arrow found no damage
Zander
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I just started shooting boo shafts after shooting wood for quite a while. I don't see ever going back to wood. I am amazed with the flight and strenth of the boo arrows.
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Lets see..Hmmm.. I would have to go with Boo/Cane hands down..Cane preferably..
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unfortunately boo arrows are so hard to make, I'm ordering some wood shafts right now for target arrows. Sitka spruce in my opinion is pretty good, but still don't compare to boo. stronger and lighter than cedar though. >:D
I've heard that as far as wood arras go, hickory and IPE are the toughest of the tough, although quite heave, more suitable for hunting or war arrows i think
when I can get my hands on cane/boo I'd gladly use em, but on the whole they're more expensive and harder to come by
Zander
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i have just recently jumped pn the bamboo band wagon... i was able to get a few bamboo shafts on a trade from madcrow...
i have never worked with bamboo... other than shooting the ocasional dried out found bamboo stick as a kid unfletched or tiped but i would love to shoot them cuase it would fly alot futher than the other stuff i shot...
but i have been trying to work some and got a few made... and i have located a place i could go cut some and i got some more potential shafts drying now...
but i dont know if i am doing them right... i have been trying to straightin them as much as posible.. but the dont get real straight but i still like the way they look and shoot... havnt shot them out at far distance yet just about ten yrds at a homemade box target inside... been getting alot of rain here and when its not raining im working to make up for lost time at work...
i have to say it is alot of fun making the bamboo arrows i enjoy working with it more than any other material.. but i sure wish i had some professional made ones to compare my work to how it should be done...
i just feel like i knwo there has got to be a better way to get this things straighter...
i love the way they feel when you draw them and the feel of it when it zips free from the release...
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I just started shooting boo shafts after shooting wood for quite a while. I don't see ever going back to wood. I am amazed with the flight and strenth of the boo arrows.
I am in the same boat using river cane and tonkin shafts. Tough!
Tracy
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Shooter, one of the hardest things for us is to realize we are not working with modern materials and that perfect straightness is not necessary to get a good arrow flight. The most important thing for me is that they fly well...not necessarily how straight they actually are. Once you can make cane(or hardwood shoot)arrows that shoot well, you can concentrate on how straight they are or how good they look. Chris Cade and Art Butner(and others) make cane arrows that are as straight of factory made shafts and I really appreciate the expertise and preciseness they put into their cane arrows. There is no comparison between their arrows and mine but mine will kill just as quickly as the ones they make if I do my job of putting it where it needs to go. ;) Pat
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the natural taper in a boo shaft also allows for better penetration when hunting.
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...plus the natural taper makes them less spine sensitive. Pat
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I'm sure there's a thread about this somewhere, but was wondering what is the better hitter? As in what hits harder?
Original question which is the better and harder hitter. Hitting power is a function of arrow weight, speed and arrow flight doesn't matter
what the material is. As for pure toughness I would say Tonkin boo followed by cane.
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I tend to think the smaller diameter of the tonkin cane gives more penetration.. JMO..
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I tend to think the smaller diameter of the tonkin cane gives more penetration.. JMO..
And its easier to taper for a point and requires no plugging :)
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I Love boo and cain arrows, i just dont enjoy making them. well the 1st 2 or 3 are fun to make than its a long teddies job. but it pays off in the long run. I remember a few months ago i shot the practice range well into miller time with a cain arrow, i musta smacked 10 trees or more. and my arrow made it!
Only problem i have with my cain arrows is keeping the Field points glued on. they like to pull off in the 3d targets. very frustrating...
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I tend to think the smaller diameter of the tonkin cane gives more penetration.. JMO..
thats why if you look at high tech carbon arrows like the Easton Axis they are tiny
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Jessie, Super Glue or epoxy them on.
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i use that stuff that you got to melt.
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Yep, I tried that too. Glue will keep them on. When you want to get them off, just heat them.
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Ditto what Pat said, I can't make them as good as Art or Chris but I can make them so they shoot straight and they are tough, very hard to beat. Steve
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I trade Art and Chris, ;D ;)
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lucky
Zander
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Cane, cane, cane all the way. I like hardwood shoots, but often have trouble keeping them straight in our humidity. Cedar breaks if you look at it wrong. Cane will bounce off trees and rocks, and stays straight once you get it that way.