Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: Ryano on November 25, 2008, 09:13:55 pm
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Here's a bow I'm finishing up right now. Its Hophornbeam (AKA IRONWOOD) Its only 56" ntn and pulls about 60#@27" Its a stout little bugger but it actualy draws pretty smooth with no feeling of stacking. It holds about 2" reflex right after unstringing and gains a little more after resting. Sorry about the crapy pictures. I plan to take some better ones tomarrow when I have some better lighting. Oh, the stave had some character to it it was kind snakey through the handle area so I used it to my advantage and its almost perfectly center shot.
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Great looking bow, as all your bows are. Looking forward to more pictures.
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Thanks xin. Here's a picture of it when I was roughing it out last winter.
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nice bow only problem is ya cut the arrow rest on the wrong side,or is that pic from the back(hard to tell)
tim
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Its right handed...so you must be wrong handed? LoL. Thanks Tim.
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Cool bow Ryan! I like the way you used the character of the bow to make it almost center shot. Good job! :)
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Nice bow Ryan, Profile looks excellent and tips are nice and even. I love finding trees or staves with that sort of jog right at the handle. I actually look for that when I'm out and about . it does give a nice center shot.
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Another Masterpiece from the master of selfbows, Awsome job Ryano
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Thanks a bunch fellas!
Ya Keenan, I always try to use the character of the wood to my advantage if possible. Its easier than trying to fight it.
Wytetail, Master you say? Thank you sir but I'm no master. I'm Still learning things everytime I work on a piece of wood. I don't know if I'll ever truly master this craft, but then again thats why I like it so much. There's always a new challenge ahead.
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Great use of character and a beauty. U da man.
John
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Outstanding bow Ryan. I can't believe a bow that short can still hold so much reflex - amazing.
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Thanks John.
Gordon, The belly is tempered which makes a big diferance. HHB seems to love Heat.
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Very nice bow Ryan. HHB does make a nice bow and you did that piece proud! 8) Pat
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Mighty fine weapon Ryan! Just as I would expect from you... ;)
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That's a beauty Ryan...as are all of yours. I have plans for a HHB down the road.
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Thanks Greg and Jimmy. Maybe I'll bring this one down to LBL.
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Here are some better pictures.
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Kooks like a meat maker to me Ryano, but its the wrong color of wood :o :o :o ;) :)
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Super Job and Bookmarked, too. ;)
What's all the white stuff in the backgrouind?
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Dana, like I said when's the last time you saw me post a yellow bow? Been a long time. Don't worry I got some comming up soon.
Don, What white stuff? ::) lol. Thanks.
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Looks nice Ryan, I bet it shoots fast. Do you find it to be much harder to shoot accurately than a longer one?
Every time I make a shorty, I think I can shoot it pretty well, until I pick up one of my longer ones.
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Ya Shannon. I always shoot longer bows more consistently but with a little practice I can shoot one of these good enough to hunt with under 20 yards.
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Gotta say Ryan even though yer a through and through Osage guy, I admire the fact that you still work
with other woods :) We had 2 feet of snow but its been warm and its melting :( :) love the snow for hunting but other that
i'm not so fond of it.
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Dana, I like to experiment as much as the next guy. I wish there were some local wood as good as Osage. I haven't found one yet but Im not done looking. There are definitely some other options out there.
I've been a snow plowing fool lately. We've been getting hammered with Lake effect snow the last two weeks. Its butthole deep wet heavy stuff to. Rifle season starts monday here, I'm glad, this snow will make them slobs work for it.
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I really like the look of this bow, nice work Ryano!
I especially like the handle area.
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much better pics ;)
yup now i can see the shelf is on the correct side ;)
that bow looks even better now that i can see it better,nice looking stick there
tim
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Nice bow Ryan. Hard to beat Ironwood as a bow wood
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Thanks guys.
Ya, Tim. I told ya the first pictures were crappy. I'm still not 100% satisfied with these ones but the much better than the ones I took last night. I'm still no good at taking pictures.
Ya, Marc its pretty good stuff.
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Another sweet bow dude, always like your creations.
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real nice man. I have always wanted to try out that ironwood. the only thing is that it doesen't really grow here :D
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really great looking as always. i really like the dark color. you do a mighty fine job- Ryan
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Nice job! Looks great as usual. Love the stain and grip.
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Thanks for the nice coments everyone.
HHB grows pretty much every where around here.
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well, you done it again, my friend. what a beauty. love the way the grain shows. how would you compare HHB to osage, performance wise?
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Marius, thank you friend.
Performance wise it can shoot just as fast if its designed/tillerd properly and kept Dry. Keeping them dry in the real world is the hard part. ;)
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Nice bow Ryan!! I agree,HHB is pretty good stuff,even for us osage fans. God Bless
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Sweet bow Ryan..ya got to bring that one to Pappys in May( I wanna fling some arrows thru it! ;) )....Brian
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Howdy Ryano,
Wow!! What a nice bow!! Why,.. A deer would be proud to taken down by that one! ;)
I have a HHB stave/log dried and waiting under my basement stairs, (I collected it right up near da U.P., in northern WI.), it's about 3-3/4" dia. And, I have some time this weekend, maybe I'll pull it out and lay it out - at least.
On the design, I was thinking of making a longer bow - maybe about a 65" flat bow (ALB) for a 28" draw. Do you recommend a shorter bow? If so, why? And if I go with this length, what width should I start with?
Can you tell us about the width(s) on your HHB? What is the width near the fades, and how far out do you go before you start to narrow the limbs. And, what is the width near the tips?
Thank you very much for the info, I hope you don't mind my asking.
Happy Holidays,
Canoe
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Excellent bow on a challenging piece of wood.. Beautiful work as usual.
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Thanks guys.
Brian, I'll bring it to Pappy's if I still have it.
Canoe, I personally like a bow about 64" ntn best. 56" was all I had to work with on this stave. 1 1/2" to 1 5/8" should be a good starting point for width, 1/2" at the tips. I narrow my outer limbs as I tiller when I'm getting close to the weight I want I try to lose as much outer limb mass as possible.
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Howdy Ryano,
Thanks for the info.
I'll probably go with 66" length and about 1-5/8" in width, and I may try to go a little narrower near the tips; 3/8 to 7/16" in width.
I like how you bent the tips. Did you use a form of some sort to get a controlled bend in the tips, or...?
Thanks again,
Canoe
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Well done, Ryan, as usual. Excellent bow. Jawge
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Very nice Ryan,IW makes a mighty fine bow and you done that piece justice.Good job. :)
Pappy
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That's a good looking bow Ryan, turned out really nice! Could you tell us what stain you used and your finishing process?
Thanks!
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Canoe, yes I used a form to bend the tips. Its just a 2x6 cut into the shape I wanted. Then I added over all reflex by gently bracing the bow backwards and heat treating the belly.
Thanks Jawge, Pappy.
Greg, thanks. It is black leather dye thinned out with alcohol. Lightly sanded with 220 and then re stained with minwax black walnut. The finish is the same thing I always use. Minwax spray polyurethane, several coats with light sanding in between coats. Then a coat of Maguire's paste wax over top of the poly.
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Thats a dandy Ryan. Bring it to the classic in the spring so I can get an up close view of it. I always like the way you stain and finish your bows.
Jesse
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Thanks Jesse. I'll bring it if I still got it. ;D