Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: Marc St Louis on November 30, 2008, 03:34:54 pm
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This is a bow I made for a guy with long arms that wants a short bow to hunt big Pigs. It's also my second attempt at making the bow, needless to say a short bow and a long draw are a difficult combination to make. My first try was a Hickory backed Osage 60" long and 1 3/8" wide limbs and it was pulling about 75# @ 31"...it broke. I had the bow fully tillered and was beginning to do the finish on it when I did a full draw with it again. The bow exploded violently. The Hickory let go on the top limb, it was a quarter sawn strip. You can see what happened here in this picture
(http://i.imgur.com/DzvdkZR.jpg)
I figured I would try the lower density and more elastic wood Yew for the second try. Now I know that White Ash makes an excellent backing for Yew but I was a bit worried about using a quarter sawn backing after the first failure. So I chased a good ring on a White Ash stave and ripped a flat sawn backing strip, a bit of a pain but worthwhile. I steamed the recurves in a pair of Yew billets then glued them together in deflex. Then I used dry heat to reflex the limbs and glued more reflex in with the Ash. In all it started with about 5" of reflex and after tillering the bow out to 31" it kept almost 3" of that. I have drawn the bow out to full draw many times and it has settled to about 2" of reflex now. I also shot it a couple times using a 550 grain arrow and a 28" draw. It is fast, in fact probably as fast as any bow I have ever made. The bow turned out at 60" long with 1 1/2" wide limbs and it pulls 63# @ 28", I can't pull it back any further with the hand held scale I have. That should project out to about 70# @ 31". Here's a couple pictures
(http://i.imgur.com/p2CJFHP.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/ZV6Ep0N.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/WuzZf6q.jpg)
The braced image is corrupted so I will have to upload it later
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I must say photobucket has sure buggered up their site
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another awesome bow marc :o
thats one heck of a draw length too.love the curves
tim
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Marc your bows are not only are visually appealing but but also deadly weapons :) I feel sorry for the pigs ;D
I do have a question though is the bottom limb bending more or is it just the picture?
I would love to see a close up of the tip overlays. And I've also had some problems with photobucket lately >:(
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I think the term 'awestruck' would apply here :o :o :o!
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Another beauty Mark. I must say you are becoming the short R/D master. I second what Dana said that is a serious little rocket launcher. Congratulations and thank you for sharing the results of the first one. We all learn that way ;)
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Thanks guys.
Dana. I'm always worried that I will hit the ceiling when I draw a bow back so I have tendency of angling the bow down. It's hard to correct. The bow is smooth and doesn't pivot when I draw it back.
Here is a braced/unbraced picture
(http://i.imgur.com/WCJm8Xr.jpg)
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Very nice bow, Marc, as usual. :) Jawge
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Thats a classic mark, especially with that long draw, I think it is going to my buddy so I can't wait to see it in person. I have a feeling the combo of ash and yew will get along quite well for years to come. Steve
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awsome marc !!! i relley like the idea usin ash with the yew have you put it on the cronograph yet? im wonderin if it outdoes white lightning ??? brock
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Mark, I love how that bow is bending most of the work is right in the sweet spot! Steve
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Thanks guys.
Steve. Yes I made the bow for Steve Q
To cold and to much snow up here to be using a chronograph Brock
Steve. I was amazed at how fast the bow shot a 550 grain arrow at a short draw
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Nice recovery Mark, I never had good luck with ash They all 4 Busted.
and yes p-bucket is.PK
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Nice looking Bow Marc. Did you ever think of incorporating a reverse riser handle into a short bow for a long draw like that? You can add a couple inches of draw length pretty easily with a forward grip.
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Another very nice one Marc,great job. :)
Pappy
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very nice bow as usual Marc, should be a real killing machine... Hawk
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Very impressive bow. Love the limbs on this one. Great entry for December Laminate Bows of the Month
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Thanks guys.
Ryan
I did try a reverse handle riser a few years ago. All that does is exagerate the deflex in the handle and you can do the same thing by glueing in more deflex in the handle. The more deflex the longer draw you can get for a given length of bow.
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Great work!!!
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Amazing.... :)
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Thanks guys. Bows like this are a lot of work but if you like speed and a short package then they are the way to go
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Mark acceptional bow as usual !! Looks like it would be a sweet shooter..
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Reflex deflex bows have never been my cup of tea, but this one makes my head turn. I especially like the braced and full draw pictures. :)
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I certainly admire your short recurves Marc, they are in a class all of their own. Beautiful bow!
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She's a beauty Marc. When you first mentioned a short bow for a long draw and pig hunting I thought Of Mullet. ;D Pat
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Beautiful bow Mark, next time I travel from Windsor to North Bay I would love to see some of your handi work if thats ok with you. I'm hoping to do do some fishing at Robb Haytt's sometime this winter.
Robb
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love these bows of yours. all i can say is, you are a true master of this craft.
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Thanks guys
Pat. I think Eddie prefers to run them over ::)
By all means Robb. You will have to make a detour to Mattawa though as that is where I am now
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Bows like this are a lot of work but if you like speed and a short package then they are the way to go
Depending on one's draw and style to shoot. I would assume that a gull winged bow would deliver an arrow as fast as that kind of a bow, if bakced with sinew and tillered properly. surely that kind of a bow would not have the same draw lenght, but for those with a short draw like mine.
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Bows like this are a lot of work but if you like speed and a short package then they are the way to go
Depending on one's draw and style to shoot. I would assume that a gull winged bow would deliver an arrow as fast as that kind of a bow, if bakced with sinew and tillered properly. surely that kind of a bow would not have the same draw lenght, but for those with a short draw like mine.
??? Not by a long shot
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Absolutely beautiful bow Marc !! Great job,the full draw pic just screams;" PERFORMANCE". God Bless
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Awesome bow Marc. Is that yew from the wood I traded you last summer?
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Thanks guys
Yes it is Glenn. One of the staves had splits that went right through from back to belly, too bad because it was the more dense of the 2. The one was fine though and as you can see made a decent bow :)