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Title: May challenge: Cahokia/ Ishi style points.
Post by: cowboy on May 03, 2009, 09:05:56 am

Thought I'd get this started. Looks like cahokia's are it with a certain grain weight to up the challenge a bit. I'm thinking somewhere between 125 - 150 grains? You guys speak up on what you'd prefer. I don't have my spec book with me at the moment, but these points are triangular, side notched. I know Ishi's looked a lot alike and he liked expanded notch, and I believe the base can be concave? Anybody with more info - feel free :). Here's a few to give an idea.

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Title: Re: May challenge: Cahokia/ Ishi style points.
Post by: Timo on May 03, 2009, 09:28:45 am

Here is a link to some originals. I think Most cahokias where on the smaller size but we can make them however big we want. ;D

Great hunting type points.

http://www.lithiccastinglab.com/gallery-pages/cahokiaart.htm

Title: Re: May challenge: Cahokia/ Ishi style points.
Post by: cowboy on May 03, 2009, 01:40:42 pm

Whoa! Look at all the points. Thanks for the link Timo, that aughta get everybody started ;).

Title: Re: May challenge: Cahokia/ Ishi style points.
Post by: Roger on May 03, 2009, 05:44:53 pm

Figgered i'd have a go at it. Haven't broke a rock in so long I couldn't find my tools  :o
Broke four before I got these two lil' guys done. Sure hard driving flakes on those chips.
Missed the weight too (31 gr & 62 gr), but I was just happy to have two finished  ;D

R.


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Title: Re: May challenge: Cahokia/ Ishi style points.
Post by: cowboy on May 03, 2009, 05:51:41 pm

Hey Roger, good to see ya around! Ain't nothin wrong with them points. They'll get the job done no matter what they weigh :). I'm sitting in a pasture west of Georgetown right now loading rocks. I should have some gray one's to post next week..

Title: Re: May challenge: Cahokia/ Ishi style points.
Post by: Roger on May 03, 2009, 06:01:08 pm

Thanks Paul...

Man...you lucky dog! That GT works nice. That's what these two are from. Watch out fer them rattleheadedcoppermoccasin's!

R.

Title: Re: May challenge: Cahokia/ Ishi style points.
Post by: PeteDavis on May 03, 2009, 09:17:26 pm

My first Ishi...

PD

(http://www.fototime.com/46741EA493C7C42/standard.jpg)

Title: Re: May challenge: Cahokia/ Ishi style points.
Post by: Timo on May 03, 2009, 10:39:03 pm

Rog, just add more pitch to um and ya got some hunting weights. ;)

Pete, very nice!never tried an ishi.

I sat down tonight wth good intentions....

1st point:Putting in the 2nd notch and snap.

2nd point: preforming a piece of burlington..snap.

3rd point: a real beaut piece of purple Texas, had it so thin that in the light was almost all trans.Bout had the first notch done,deep and narrow.snap

When I break 3 in a row I quit. somedays? :'(

Title: Re: May challenge: Cahokia/ Ishi style points.
Post by: jamie on May 04, 2009, 06:27:13 am

ill knock one out when i recover from the weekend.

Title: Re: May challenge: Cahokia/ Ishi style points.
Post by: cowboy on May 04, 2009, 08:58:40 am

Sheesh Pete! First try? that is some kinda nice ;). I hear ya Timo, seems like we all have em :'(.

Title: Re: May challenge: Cahokia/ Ishi style points.
Post by: jamie on May 04, 2009, 12:06:31 pm

just picked up a bunch of rock at the classic and cant decide what to ruin first.  ;D

Title: Re: May challenge: Cahokia/ Ishi style points.
Post by: Bone pile on May 04, 2009, 02:33:50 pm

anyone know the grain/gram conversion?
Roger

Title: Re: May challenge: Cahokia/ Ishi style points.
Post by: sailordad on May 05, 2009, 01:04:05 am

15.43 grains=1 gram   ;D

Title: Re: May challenge: Cahokia/ Ishi style points.
Post by: billy on May 06, 2009, 12:09:17 am

here's some I made..Burlington chert and Keokuk chert, just like the originals.

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Title: Re: May challenge: Cahokia/ Ishi style points.
Post by: cowboy on May 06, 2009, 12:10:02 pm

Beautiful Billy! They look like originals, bet that smallest one was a bugger to notch :).

Title: Re: May challenge: Cahokia/ Ishi style points.
Post by: Otoe Bow on May 06, 2009, 01:28:34 pm

Nice job Billy.  I just pulled out a penny for reference and, that's small.   :o

Mike

Title: Re: May challenge: Cahokia/ Ishi style points.
Post by: billy on May 06, 2009, 04:34:42 pm

Thanks ya'll.  YEah, those points are pretty small, but that's the vast majority of what I make.  I just love those little points! 

Title: Re: May challenge: Cahokia/ Ishi style points.
Post by: Hillbilly on May 06, 2009, 04:41:04 pm

Nice looking points, y'all. Shannon, post that little blue/white coral Cahokia I gave you at the Classic-it's probably one of the better Cahokias I've done.

Title: Re: May challenge: Cahokia/ Ishi style points.
Post by: Timo on May 06, 2009, 06:55:57 pm

Nice job on them Billy,and you bet, that is about the actual size of alot of cahokia points. I'm awwed at how you can get those things notched. ;)

Title: Re: May challenge: Cahokia/ Ishi style points.
Post by: FlintWalker on May 06, 2009, 07:11:46 pm

Will do Steve. ;)   While I'm at it I'll post a couple I made at work yesterday too. 8)

Title: Re: May challenge: Cahokia/ Ishi style points.
Post by: FlintWalker on May 06, 2009, 07:38:57 pm

Here ya go!  Hillbilly made the one on the left for me at the Classic. I made the next two yesterday at work and the last one today.  I don't know what the material is ???  It's just some stuff Jesse threw in my box. 8)
 The banded obsidian point is from a piece Wade gave me.
 

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Title: Re: May challenge: Cahokia/ Ishi style points.
Post by: FlintWalker on May 06, 2009, 08:25:05 pm

I know this ain't the kind we're supposed to be posting for this challenge, but does anybody know what type this one most resembles?  I made it, but don't know what to call it ???

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Title: Re: May challenge: Cahokia/ Ishi style points.
Post by: Outbackbob48 on May 06, 2009, 08:34:27 pm

Hey Shannon, I,m not sure but I believe thats called a Gunther. Heres a point I made at the classic. Now if I can figure out how to post the picture.

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Title: Re: May challenge: Cahokia/ Ishi style points.
Post by: Outbackbob48 on May 06, 2009, 08:42:46 pm

Finally got a picture to post I believe thats harder for me to do than make a point, now if I can fiqure out how to do multiples.

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Title: Re: May challenge: Cahokia/ Ishi style points.
Post by: Outbackbob48 on May 06, 2009, 08:47:39 pm

Dang puters I posted the same picture, Last try for tonite. Later Bob

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Title: Re: May challenge: Cahokia/ Ishi style points.
Post by: jamie on May 06, 2009, 09:15:39 pm

beautiful points guys. wish i could get the flake patterns all clean like you guys do. anyway heres a few i did. one is from root beer flint , the other from a chunk of rhyolite . both stones came from hillbilly. i like the rhyolite a lot . it took me a wehile to figure out that i needed a slightly higher platform to get past the inclusions in that stuff. next point should be better. the noviculite point came out a bit heavy but it should work >:D

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/coyotebow/knapping/004-1.jpg)

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Title: Re: May challenge: Cahokia/ Ishi style points.
Post by: Roger on May 06, 2009, 09:22:35 pm

Man...yaw turnin out some nice stuff...I need to practice... ;D

Jamie that RB is sweet. I bet its sharp too!

R.

Title: Re: May challenge: Cahokia/ Ishi style points.
Post by: jamie on May 06, 2009, 09:24:35 pm

sure is roger . got a nice piece of it still imbedded in my hand ;D

Title: Re: May challenge: Cahokia/ Ishi style points.
Post by: cowboy on May 06, 2009, 10:08:49 pm

Damn, you guys are turnin out some points here! Nice work there Steve, Shannon, Jamie - I'm gonna have to get busy :).

Title: Re: May challenge: Cahokia/ Ishi style points.
Post by: Hillbilly on May 06, 2009, 10:10:07 pm

Jamie, the rootbeer colored stuff is Knife River flint from North Dakota. Good job on those. That rhyolite is great for hunting points, gets sharp and won't hardly break. Ancient Chinese secret for the hangnails: heat it up and rub beeswax on it or hit it with a shot of Armor-all. No more hangnails. :)  Nice chippin', Outbackbob. Shannon, I think yours look better than mine.

Title: Re: May challenge: Cahokia/ Ishi style points.
Post by: Timo on May 06, 2009, 10:31:02 pm

Man You guys are hammerin out ain't ya? And talk about nice! Wow! :o AIn't getting no knappin time.  >:(

Knife river is one of my fav to knap. Took me a bit to learn it, but man o man it makes some sharp thin heads. You got a bunch of that stuff hillbilly? I'll trade ya out of it somehow. ;)

Title: Re: May challenge: Cahokia/ Ishi style points.
Post by: mullet on May 06, 2009, 10:36:23 pm

  Man! you guy's are cranking them out. I don't even have time to post that broken point Dana gave me.

Title: Re: May challenge: Cahokia/ Ishi style points.
Post by: billy on May 07, 2009, 12:19:41 am

damn jamie...we're making arrowheads....not AXE HEADS!!  That's a beauty...bout the perfect size for taking down a C-130

Title: Re: May challenge: Cahokia/ Ishi style points.
Post by: jamie on May 07, 2009, 05:14:09 am

billy thats a bird point. i just have really small feet ;D

Title: Re: May challenge: Cahokia/ Ishi style points.
Post by: DanaM on May 07, 2009, 07:56:40 am

Quote from: mullet on May 06, 2009, 10:36:23 pm

  Man! you guy's are cranking them out. I don't even have time to post that broken point Dana gave me.

Broken ::) One little corner off the ear and yer gonna hold that against me eh ;) :D

Title: Re: May challenge: Cahokia/ Ishi style points.
Post by: Hillbilly on May 07, 2009, 10:09:52 am

Tim, wish I had a bunch of that stuff. I picked up a couple spalls at a knap-in last year, I think that was my last piece that I gave Jamie.

Title: Re: May challenge: Cahokia/ Ishi style points.
Post by: Dingleberry on May 07, 2009, 01:31:48 pm

Excellent points fellars.  Gotta get on it!

Jamie, I'd like to see the arrow that novaculite is getting mounted on. :)

Title: Re: May challenge: Cahokia/ Ishi style points.
Post by: n2everythg on May 07, 2009, 03:03:02 pm

nice points guys. havnt had much time myself since getting back. will try to sit down and not break one.

Shannon -
that piece of banded obsid turned out great. nice job.

later
n2

Title: Re: May challenge: Cahokia/ Ishi style points.
Post by: D. Tiller on May 07, 2009, 04:07:07 pm

I'm in the same boat! Also, left my knapping kit at the Classic. Just do not know where my brain was! Man what a few days. My brain has still not gotten back into the fast pace of life here on the island after all the fun at the Classic!

David T

Title: Re: May challenge: Cahokia/ Ishi style points.
Post by: jamie on May 07, 2009, 07:08:57 pm

damn steve now im gonna have to make the best piece ever from the rest of it.

Title: Re: May challenge: Cahokia/ Ishi style points.
Post by: mullet on May 07, 2009, 09:52:12 pm

 I know what you mean Tiller, I left a jar and a guava bow I couldn't give away. They are mailing it to me.

Title: Re: May challenge: Cahokia/ Ishi style points.
Post by: D. Tiller on May 08, 2009, 12:49:08 am

Good people there at Twin Oaks to put up with us forgetful types!  ;D

Title: Re: May challenge: Cahokia/ Ishi style points.
Post by: DanaM on May 08, 2009, 07:22:00 am

Quote from: mullet on May 07, 2009, 09:52:12 pm

I know what you mean Tiller, I left a jar and a guava bow I couldn't give away. They are mailing it to me.

Just the jar right ::) :P :D

Title: Re: May challenge: Cahokia/ Ishi style points.
Post by: Bone pile on May 08, 2009, 09:25:29 am

Well here's my attempt,these are some I want to haft on some cane and see how they take to the air.the top one is georgetown the bottom is Fla coral and the side ones are made out of Ga flint river (thanx Curt).They're sittin' on a whale vert.I found in Ospery Fl.I'm gonning to take them down to our lab and weigh to see how close they are.
(http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk33/Bonepile/ishi002.jpg)
(http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk33/Bonepile/ishi005.jpg)
Bone pile

Title: Re: May challenge: Cahokia/ Ishi style points.
Post by: jamie on May 08, 2009, 09:33:48 am

wow those are excellent

Title: Re: May challenge: Cahokia/ Ishi style points.
Post by: Timo on May 08, 2009, 09:50:03 am

Most excellent! Those will make absolutely great hunting points! Awesome job! ;) I beleive I like the top point the best.

Title: Re: May challenge: Cahokia/ Ishi style points.
Post by: DanaM on May 08, 2009, 10:16:41 am

Great points Roger :)

Title: Re: May challenge: Cahokia/ Ishi style points.
Post by: piper on May 08, 2009, 12:57:39 pm

Nice chipping there Bone...and nice material also .. HEHE

Title: Re: May challenge: Cahokia/ Ishi style points.
Post by: Roger on May 08, 2009, 02:03:57 pm

Nice points! That GT is a killah...

Title: Re: May challenge: Cahokia/ Ishi style points.
Post by: Dingleberry on May 08, 2009, 02:04:27 pm

Excellent points Bone Pile.  I too like the top one the best.

Title: Re: May challenge: Cahokia/ Ishi style points.
Post by: Sparrow on May 08, 2009, 02:04:48 pm

Nice points all.I think I like the ratio on that top one best.Good work !  Frank

Title: Re: May challenge: Cahokia/ Ishi style points.
Post by: Dingleberry on May 08, 2009, 02:48:22 pm

Here is my attempt; scars didn't reach quite to the middle like I hoped.

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Title: Re: May challenge: Cahokia/ Ishi style points.
Post by: Bone pile on May 08, 2009, 02:56:21 pm

I just got back from the lab and the weights are
Georgetown  -69.3  gr
Coral  92.2 gr
Ga flint left-81.4 gr
Ga flint right 92 gr
thanks for the responses,I want to try an ishi syyle narrow entry notch if I can find a peice of obsid and time
Bone pile

Title: Re: May challenge: Cahokia/ Ishi style points.
Post by: billy on May 08, 2009, 05:03:37 pm

Dingleberry,

That's a beauty of a point...I like the pale greenish color. 

Title: Re: May challenge: Cahokia/ Ishi style points.
Post by: Dingleberry on May 08, 2009, 05:16:25 pm

Thanks Billy,  Yours were much better than mine.

Title: Re: May challenge: Cahokia/ Ishi style points.
Post by: Timo on May 08, 2009, 06:36:08 pm

Cool looking point there Dingleberry.

Title: Re: May challenge: Cahokia/ Ishi style points.
Post by: D. Tiller on May 08, 2009, 07:11:52 pm

Dang, I need to get knapping! These are my favorite points to make!!!!

Title: Re: May challenge: Cahokia/ Ishi style points.
Post by: xin on May 08, 2009, 09:15:46 pm

Bonepile, FANTASTIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Title: Re: May challenge: Cahokia/ Ishi style points.
Post by: Bone pile on May 08, 2009, 09:46:47 pm

nice point dingleberry,pale green what was it,bottle ,slag,neighboors window?come on fess up
Bone pile

Title: Re: May challenge: Cahokia/ Ishi style points.
Post by: selfbow on May 09, 2009, 03:54:00 pm

Here's one out of Burlington...I think.
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Title: Re: May challenge: Cahokia/ Ishi style points.
Post by: Timo on May 09, 2009, 07:53:54 pm

Good thing about floods is the wash outs. I hit a couple road ditches today and found a good bucket of burlington.Got it home and knocked off a good spall. This came out of it. Wore my arse out being fresh from the earth! Gonna heat the rest of it... Not the best, and my notches stalled, but it'll do.(Don't look at that lil hingy thingy there) ;D



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Title: Re: May challenge: Cahokia/ Ishi style points.
Post by: PeteDavis on May 09, 2009, 09:27:48 pm

Nice point,Timo. Real rock!

here I go agin'....

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Title: Re: May challenge: Cahokia/ Ishi style points.
Post by: Timo on May 09, 2009, 10:39:08 pm

killer point Pete! Good weight also.

I just weighed mine @ 91 grns. To light for my hunting. I'll try again tomorrow.That piece was one of those," Just have to see if I can" points. ;)

Title: Re: May challenge: Cahokia/ Ishi style points.
Post by: Timo on May 10, 2009, 10:13:46 pm

rainin here again today so I went to the shop after visiting Mom, O:)

Just went to. Knocked out 6 points 4 being side notch.

Lft to rt,creek nodule,not sure of mat,Jeff city chert I think-122grains.......Hixton,(and I am proud of that one) 102 grains...... Reed springs chert-64grains,(love the lightining bolt) ;D ......and choteau-62 grains.

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Title: Re: May challenge: Cahokia/ Ishi style points.
Post by: FlintWalker on May 10, 2009, 10:38:24 pm

Man those are nice!  I'm guessing that Hixton is tough stuff. You should be proud of that one.  But I really like the looks of the two on the right. Them's plum purdy ;D

Title: Re: May challenge: Cahokia/ Ishi style points.
Post by: cowboy on May 10, 2009, 11:02:57 pm

Been out of pocket the last few days. Wow! you guys have been busy - great looking work all!!

Title: Re: May challenge: Cahokia/ Ishi style points.
Post by: jamie on May 11, 2009, 05:14:13 am

all awesome but that hixton looks like some great material. where is that stuff from

Title: Re: May challenge: Cahokia/ Ishi style points.
Post by: Bone pile on May 11, 2009, 08:31:15 am

Nice points Timo ,looks like they'll get the job done.I like tha lightning bolt too,gives it a good look
bone pile

Title: Re: May challenge: Cahokia/ Ishi style points.
Post by: Hillbilly on May 11, 2009, 12:02:22 pm

Y'all are making some nice stuff. Timo, I really like that Hixton point. I've got a similar one from that same red-tip Hixton material that Scott Doblar from MN gave me-one of my favorite OPP's.

Title: Re: May challenge: Cahokia/ Ishi style points.
Post by: mullet on May 11, 2009, 09:51:47 pm

  Man those are some nice points. I got a chance to knap this past weekend, I gotta post some pictures.

Title: Re: May challenge: Cahokia/ Ishi style points.
Post by: Allen7 on May 12, 2009, 01:52:05 am

I have been having a tuff time lately, hobbling around on crutches.  I badly twisted my left ankle in March; ruptured ligaments, spiral fracture of the fibula(small leg bone), had surgery, put a screw thru the ankle.   I usually work off my left leg, so haven't done much knapping.   The leg is feeling better, but ankle still little swollen.     Anyway knapped a couple points this weekend.  Here is my entry.  It is Glass Buttes Obsidian, about 2 1/2 inch x 1 inch, 132 grains in weight, and sharp.

Allen Minton

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Title: Re: May challenge: Cahokia/ Ishi style points.
Post by: Timo on May 12, 2009, 07:52:02 am

Real nice point there Allen!

Bummer on the injury,Hope ya heal soon.

Title: Re: May challenge: Cahokia/ Ishi style points.
Post by: Bone pile on May 12, 2009, 07:55:21 am

Good job Allen,hope you heal up fast.It's never fun to be lookin' at rock and not able to beat on it
Bone pile

Title: Re: May challenge: Cahokia/ Ishi style points.
Post by: cowboy on May 12, 2009, 10:18:00 am

Nice one Allen! Hope your back on track soon.

Title: Re: May challenge: Cahokia/ Ishi style points.
Post by: piper on May 13, 2009, 06:22:09 am

VERY well said there BONE PILE

  Curt

Title: Re: May challenge: Cahokia/ Ishi style points.
Post by: JackCrafty on May 13, 2009, 11:06:43 pm

My attempt at a Cahokia.

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Title: Re: May challenge: Cahokia/ Ishi style points.
Post by: Timo on May 13, 2009, 11:39:56 pm

Sweet lil point!  Looks like keokuk?

Title: Re: May challenge: Cahokia/ Ishi style points.
Post by: JackCrafty on May 13, 2009, 11:52:08 pm

Timo, I don't know what the material is but you're probably right....I picked it up from the knapping pit at the Classic. :) 

Title: Re: May challenge: Cahokia/ Ishi style points.
Post by: D. Tiller on May 14, 2009, 01:45:01 am

Looks like Keokuc (spelling?)

Title: Re: May challenge: Cahokia/ Ishi style points.
Post by: cowboy on May 14, 2009, 10:25:52 am

Better than just an attempt Pat - that's a sweet little point, and from debitage no less :).

Title: Re: May challenge: Cahokia/ Ishi style points.
Post by: JackCrafty on May 14, 2009, 11:11:20 am

Thanks Paul.   :)

Title: Re: May challenge: Cahokia/ Ishi style points.
Post by: nugget on May 14, 2009, 11:53:14 am

Not sure if this is correct but here is my attempt at it.  The point is a little thick and wieghs about 200 grains.
TJ

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Title: Re: May challenge: Cahokia/ Ishi style points.
Post by: jamie on May 15, 2009, 05:55:30 am

pat that debitage pit was a gold mine . excellent work

Title: Re: May challenge: Cahokia/ Ishi style points.
Post by: mullet on May 15, 2009, 07:43:11 am

  Nice one, TJ.

Title: Re: May challenge: Cahokia/ Ishi style points.
Post by: cowboy on May 15, 2009, 08:21:10 am

Looks good TJ - keep on knappin ;).

Title: Re: May challenge: Cahokia/ Ishi style points.
Post by: TRACY on May 15, 2009, 11:18:31 am

Nice point Nugget.

I can't believe how much material was in that pile that far exceeded anything that I find locally. I've got a few pieces that I'm working with now.

Tracy

Title: Re: May challenge: Cahokia/ Ishi style points.
Post by: DanaM on May 15, 2009, 08:08:13 pm

Here's my effort stone is unknown a spall I threw in my bucket at the Classic. It needs a little more work as it has a curl in the tip,
but overall not bad for a beginner eh :) Its 1.25" wide and just under 2.5" long and weighs in at 156 grains.

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Title: Re: May challenge: Cahokia/ Ishi style points.
Post by: mullet on May 15, 2009, 09:43:16 pm

 Nice point, Dana, looks like Keokuc.

Title: Re: May challenge: Cahokia/ Ishi style points.
Post by: cowboy on May 15, 2009, 11:18:27 pm

Yup, that one'll work Dana - nice point!! I don't know what material, but if ya stick it in the right spot = meat ;).

Title: Re: May challenge: Cahokia/ Ishi style points.
Post by: FlintWalker on May 16, 2009, 04:36:39 am

Well I finally made time to try another point tonight. I'm kinda proud of this one. I call it the first "real" point I've made.  "Real" meaning it's the first one that I've made from a spall and used some percussion to thin.  The other half dozen or so flint points I've made were just pressure flaked from  thin flakes. I almost made a couple others tonight also. (emphisis on almost)  Just as I would get 'em thin enought to start pressure flaking, I'd break 'em. >:(

  Anyhow, it's 2-7/16" long and 15/16" wide and weighs 131 grains.  I don't know what the material is. It's something Jesse threw in my box at the Classic.  It's blacker than the picture shows and only passes light on the very edges.   
 I'm happy with it, whatever it is. ;D

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Title: Re: May challenge: Cahokia/ Ishi style points.
Post by: jamie on May 16, 2009, 06:09:04 am

beauties!!!!!

Title: Re: May challenge: Cahokia/ Ishi style points.
Post by: DustinDees on May 16, 2009, 06:11:29 am

wow thats a nice looking point, like the photography work on it as well.

Dustin D

Title: Re: May challenge: Cahokia/ Ishi style points.
Post by: piper on May 16, 2009, 06:35:04 am

Now that is a real point and very nicely made...Thanks for letting us see youe work..

   Curt

Title: Re: May challenge: Cahokia/ Ishi style points.
Post by: DanaM on May 16, 2009, 07:11:26 am

Looks great Shannon and you got the notches nice and deep :)

Title: Re: May challenge: Cahokia/ Ishi style points.
Post by: Bone pile on May 16, 2009, 07:29:24 am

Very good work,I think every one stepped up a notch on this style
Bone pile

Title: Re: May challenge: Cahokia/ Ishi style points.
Post by: Timo on May 16, 2009, 07:33:00 am

Dana, nice work, looks alot like the Jeff city chert we have around here! ;)

Saw, that is a nice job! you are hooked now......Good notches, and nice convexity.

Title: Re: May challenge: Cahokia/ Ishi style points.
Post by: Outbackbob48 on May 16, 2009, 10:39:39 am

Hey Shannon nice point, looks like dacite to me. Now that your using percussion you probably give up the glass an pressure flaking only when you have to. I just gotta smash something. :>) Later Bob

Title: Re: May challenge: Cahokia/ Ishi style points.
Post by: cowboy on May 16, 2009, 12:04:00 pm

Oh yeah! That's a nice one Shannon! I don't see a step anywhere -- niiiice :) :).

Title: Re: May challenge: Cahokia/ Ishi style points.
Post by: Sparrow on May 16, 2009, 02:17:32 pm

 Wow ! Nice points guys. Yeah,that looks like dacite to me too,course,I've got dacite on the brain,love the stuff.  '  Frank

Title: Re: May challenge: Cahokia/ Ishi style points.
Post by: knap_123 on May 16, 2009, 03:14:48 pm

heres mine,  shes been playing in the dirt, so shes a little messy.  my little girl to :)(http://i328.photobucket.com/albums/l338/knap_123/kids081.jpg)(http://i328.photobucket.com/albums/l338/knap_123/kids083.jpg)

Title: Re: May challenge: Cahokia/ Ishi style points.
Post by: DanaM on May 16, 2009, 06:42:07 pm

Beautiful  youngin and the point is pretty nice too :)

Title: Re: May challenge: Cahokia/ Ishi style points.
Post by: cowboy on May 16, 2009, 10:29:37 pm

Nice work knap - and ya gotta love the younguns too ;).

Title: Re: May challenge: Cahokia/ Ishi style points.
Post by: nugget on May 16, 2009, 10:38:05 pm

Very cool points so far. Mine is the worst out of all of them. Seeing all this talent makes me want to do better. I will try and knock a beter one out before the month is up. Once again you all have done a great job.
TJ

Title: Re: May challenge: Cahokia/ Ishi style points.
Post by: Timo on May 16, 2009, 11:36:45 pm

Nice looking point there Knap! (Kid looks better though) ;)

Title: Re: May challenge: Cahokia/ Ishi style points.
Post by: billy on May 17, 2009, 12:03:59 am

another little cahokia I made today.....

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Title: Re: May challenge: Cahokia/ Ishi style points.
Post by: cowboy on May 17, 2009, 12:16:53 am

Jeeze, you guys just don't quit. Nice one billy! Man them are some nice notches :).

Title: Re: May challenge: Cahokia/ Ishi style points.
Post by: mullet on May 17, 2009, 01:00:56 pm

  Well I worked on this one a little more. I just like the looks of those old bleach bottles

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Title: Re: May challenge: Cahokia/ Ishi style points.
Post by: mullet on May 17, 2009, 01:02:51 pm

 And here's one that Dana did out of Osidean, He made this for me for the point trade.

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Title: Re: May challenge: Cahokia/ Ishi style points.
Post by: cowboy on May 17, 2009, 10:20:56 pm

I'm gonna have to find some of that brown glass. Cool point Eddie - looks like ya e-notched it a little. Looks like Dana's getting better too - nice pernts..

Title: Re: May challenge: Cahokia/ Ishi style points.
Post by: Timo on May 17, 2009, 11:57:26 pm

Really nice points everyone.I think this month challenge was a great way for us to learn a bit more about a good quality hunting point, and how better to make them. The animals this fall don't stand a chance? ;)

Title: Re: May challenge: Cahokia/ Ishi style points.
Post by: Allen7 on May 19, 2009, 03:50:02 am

I made this one out of some broken blue glass found along the road.   It looked like it might have been an old jar.  I used the biggest piece left from the bottom.   Managed to get the curve out, but is smaller than I wanted.   This one weighs in at about 110 grains.

Allen

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Title: Re: May challenge: Cahokia/ Ishi style points.
Post by: cowboy on May 19, 2009, 08:38:37 am

Nice flaking and symetry Allen!

Title: Re: May challenge: Cahokia/ Ishi style points.
Post by: selfbow on May 20, 2009, 06:10:24 pm

Here's a few
(http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b327/selfbow1/011.jpg)

Title: Re: May challenge: Cahokia/ Ishi style points.
Post by: Bone pile on May 21, 2009, 11:04:01 am

Man that's a bunch,a mess,a lot,a flock, a group ,a pile yeah a pile of points'They look good
Bone pile

Title: Re: May challenge: Cahokia/ Ishi style points.
Post by: Timo on May 22, 2009, 08:18:39 am

Allen, that blue glass is perty!

Selfbow, Nice points, looks like you are ready for fall!

Title: Re: May challenge: Cahokia/ Ishi style points.
Post by: Bone pile on May 22, 2009, 08:30:13 am

opened up a new box-o-rocks  ;D ;D and had to have another go at thia challange.Actually I want to see which style hafts up nicer on an arrow.So here's a 2,3,5 and E notch
(http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk33/Bonepile/cahakia001.jpg)
(http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk33/Bonepile/cahakia006.jpg)
I hope yall have a good,safe  Memorial day weekend, put your flags out
Bone pile

Title: Re: May challenge: Cahokia/ Ishi style points.
Post by: leapingbare on May 22, 2009, 01:54:30 pm

 ;)

Title: Re: May challenge: Cahokia/ Ishi style points.
Post by: mullet on May 22, 2009, 08:39:36 pm

 Sweet!, did I tell you I'm partial to the "E" notch? ;)

Title: Re: May challenge: Cahokia/ Ishi style points.
Post by: D. Tiller on May 22, 2009, 09:01:24 pm

Yep! The flag will be flying at my house!

Nice points! My knapping kit just got here from twin oaks in the mail. Yep! I left my tools behind by accident. I hope to have a few done by the end of this weekend.

Title: Re: May challenge: Cahokia/ Ishi style points.
Post by: cowboy on May 24, 2009, 02:07:18 am

Nice collection selfbow! Need to haft some of those up and stick em in a critter ;). That's some nice lookin rock ya got there Roger ;D.

Title: Re: May challenge: Cahokia/ Ishi style points.
Post by: Hardawaypoints on May 28, 2009, 08:28:29 pm

(http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a257/hardawaypoints/Knapped%20points/rawTexasABOknapped.jpg)

Made this one out of raw Texas, ABO knapped just to see if I could.  I can't find my reloading scale, but it would work on the end of a shaft.

Jim

Title: Re: May challenge: Cahokia/ Ishi style points.
Post by: cowboy on May 28, 2009, 09:01:08 pm

Sure would Jim! That looks like some tough old perd - nice point..

Title: Re: May challenge: Cahokia/ Ishi style points.
Post by: Hillbilly on May 29, 2009, 01:02:23 pm

Finally got a few minutes and knocked out this little Cahokia from coral:

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Title: Re: May challenge: Cahokia/ Ishi style points.
Post by: Hardawaypoints on May 29, 2009, 01:16:13 pm

Man, that sure is pretty Steve.  Makes mine look like a booger.  That coral can be some pretty rock.

Jim

Title: Re: May challenge: Cahokia/ Ishi style points.
Post by: cowboy on May 29, 2009, 01:38:37 pm

Man that's some colorful stuff Steve - kinda looks like candy, wonder how it'd chew ;D?

Title: Re: May challenge: Cahokia/ Ishi style points.
Post by: D. Tiller on May 29, 2009, 03:50:01 pm

Nice one!