Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Cave Men only "Oooga Booga" => Topic started by: jamie on June 27, 2009, 10:20:42 pm
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been a while since ive done a completely primitive diet. so im starting today. weighed in at 188 this morning . we'll see what its at by the end of july. today was a lot of wild greens. dinner was excellent. blue gills with ground nut, purslane and evening primrose roots. primrose added a nice peppery taste to the mix. i went with fishin with the ugly stick. this week ill build a primitive line and gore. i'll try to check in daily.
wanted to add this byline that just because i can eat certain wild foods doesnt mean everybody can. many plants contain tannins, latex etc that can cause illness or allergic reactions. you need to know your foods and yourself.
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Sounds like me when I was fifteen Jamie. Only I did it for a day or two not a month ;D. Looks like your on a quest like most all of us daydream about but few are commited to. Keep us posted on the goins on..
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got handed a gift this morning. kid in front of me hit a little fork horn ;D
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Thats too easy jamie, I hope you at least used a sharp rock to butcher it eh :D
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i actualy did! My knife was spent from work so i used flakes.
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Sounds interesting Jamie. Keep us posted. 8)
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awesome. I bet you gain weight ;D
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probaly wont gain weight. every time i do this i lose about 8-10 lbs . most of that in the first week. its the body getting cleaned out. then the weight stabalises as long as i get the protien i need.
well today was the same. alot of greens. for tonite i harvested a salad and some solomans seal roots. big suckers too. plus i got bonus meat when i wacked a squirrel that happened to run across my path at the archery range. gonna save the venison for when i really need it. blue gills and little critters will do for now. saw a lot of beech nuts too but didnt get any today. never saw a european beech produce actual nuts. must be all the rain. peace
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Jamie, did ya take a primative camera into the woods with ya? Sure would be interesting for us westerners to see what your gathering out there ::).
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paul i have the camera with me now. Im gonna start taking pics. Well after a couple of days im down to 182. Thats just the body cleaning itself out. The brain is still adusting. Gonna market this out as a new hollywood diet. :) peace
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Cool stuff Jamie, can't wait to hear more :)
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Have fun, and i'm looking foward to some pics !
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POST PICS!!!! POST PICS!!!!!! POST PICS!!!!!!
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worked my tail off yesterday. Aside from greens i didmt eat. Taking today off and going fishin with the kids so its fish for dinner.
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Good luck on your quest sounds interesting keep us posted
Thanks Leroy
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I would have starved to death by now. If I'm not getting about 4000 calories a day I can't function. ;D More power to ya.
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Have you gotten too hungry to update us. ;D
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Anticipating those pictures ::). Where ya at Jamie ;)?
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sorry fellas. been workin my but off. i have a few pics. my camera died the other day . i'll be getting more this weekend.
first one is plantain. lawn weed. it was introduced by the europeans as a vegetable. its healthier than spinach. the seed pods contain a lot of vitamins also . including some of the b vitamins. this is my main source of daytime nurishment.
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my main source of protein right now. these were cooked in the burdock leaves they are laying on. done on hot coals. delicious
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this is the flower stem from the burdock plant. burdock is an incredible plant. its a cleansing plant. helps to detoxify the liver and strengthen the system. the root from first year plants is used as a vegetable. or tea. i use the root from the older plants as tea and eat the younger. the flower stalk can be peeled and eaten. very similar to water chestnuts in asian food. this one was getting woody so i chewed the juices out and spit out the pulp.
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im gonna try to hit the water again tonight and gather some cattail parts for flour and vegies. then i'll do a how to on removing the starch from the roots and making ash cakes with elder flowers in em. chocalate chips would be better but not this month. ;D
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Awesome stuff. I didn't know about plantain, and had no idea it was edible.
This is too cool :)
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wanted to add this byline that just because i can eat certain wild foods doesnt mean everybody can. many plants contain tannins, latex etc that can cause illness or allergic reactions. you need to know your foods and yourself.
kegan its a great edible plant as well as medicinal. my kids will grab plantain for a cut rather than a bandaid. grab a leaf , chew it up and apply to wound. it has great healing properties. ive used it on a copperhead bite and it reduced the damage from the bite a lot. i only lost the skin in the immediate area of the bite rather than most of the skin on the top of my hand.
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milkweed and groundnut. for dinner tonight. the tubers come from groundnut (apios americana) and the flowers and buds from the milkweed plant are quite delicious. no meat today didnt have time to fish or shoot. like my little byline warning stated both of these plants have latex in them . some people could have a reaction to these. the books tell you to boil the milkweed in 2 changes of water to remove the bitter latex, i dont. i just steam them a bit. i have eaten them raw also. the groundnut ill boil just to soften.
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i'll take pictures of the whole groundnut plant sometime this weekend
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This is cool stuff Jamie :). I don't think I could ever pull something like that off.
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right now im wishing i waited. Gonna continue just busier than hell. Went 2 days so far without eating much. Gonna go fishing tonight. Protein will be good. Dont want to use the venison but i may if this keeps up. Peace
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Thanks for the pictures Jamie, very interesting! Ahh, good ole perch - kept many a young man alive on foraging weekend's ;D. You got my attention, I'm enjoying this..
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was with some friends yesterday and i could smell everything they were eating from quite some distance away. so my sense of smell is hightened.
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was with some friends yesterday and i could smell everything they were eating from quite some distance away. so my sense of smell is hightened.
That's called getting really HUNGRY ;D
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yup !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Good stuff jamie, thanks for taking me along !
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Dang, I think I would have eaten frogs and worms by now. Personally, eating greens just makes me hungrier....
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I'm with Patrick, That much "Greens" spells the "Squirts".
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I'm with Patrick, That much "Greens" spells the "Squirts".
Eddie
I was thinking the same thing. Ron
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;D ;D ;D Mullet you won't do. Jamie I though about you yesterday while I was mowing,wild
strawberries,blackberries,and wild plums.Still no meat but at least a lot of them to fill you up. :)
I could just see you hogging them down. ;) :)
Pappy
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when theres nothing in you to squirt , theres nothing in ya ta squirt!
and wild turkey is incredible. mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm >:D
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pappy just saw your post. the berries up here are just ripening. had a few mullberries. white though, its like eating corn syrup. very sweet. id kill for strawberries and plums. the ground berries (strawberries, dewberries) arent doing well because of all the rain. gonna be a lot of blueberries this year though.
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I forgot about you . Glad I checked back. I had big plans of doing just what you are doing years ago but never committed to it like that. Also I dont know all the plant species you can eat. I did it for a day or so and actually ate well because of my location camping next to a lake full of fish. Even made my own hook from a soda can tab :). I found out red squirell aint to bad cooked over a fire. Anyways good luck.This is great "after dinner" entertainment ;D
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wild turkey is incredible. mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm >:D
I prefer Makers Mark or W.L.Weller over Wild Turkey any Day ........... >:D
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this is really interesting. keep it coming jamie.
thanks
wade
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scored a lot of daylilly tubers, purslane and cattail today. i'll let the roots dry and sift out the flour. the purslane was awesome. stuffs loaded with omega 3's too. felt good and tasted great. also took the corms off the cattails and im gonna steam em with the daylilly tubers for dinner. hell i think i may break into a piece of the venison and make it a feast!! iwould expect i should feel tired because i havent been eating much but im not. i have a lot of energy and feeling quite explosive (in a good way). theres definetly something to be said about eating quality food. ill post pics of the cattail process when they dry. and also get some pics of the purslane for ya.
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wow this is cool man
never tried it for more than a day,
didnt know cattail was edible,we have literally acres of it just on the edge of town and other areas
i never knew that lawn weed you posted a pic of was edible too.
i d o remember my grandmothers both picking slalad in the yard though,never really knew what the ywere except for weeds.
keep it up your doing great
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Fish, fish, fish ! Body weight 178. Would kill for an apple or some rice. Had some black raz yesterday . Just not a lot of ripe ones yet
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Well I guess you could always eat insects! ;D
PS. If you do eat insects, please take pictures and post em' :D
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ive had a few grubs and ant larva. the ant larva is quite good. kinda has a creamy gravy taste. the grubs taste like wet popcorn
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ive had a few grubs and ant larva. the ant larva is quite good. kinda has a creamy gravy taste. the grubs taste like wet popcorn
Yuck :P Your a brave man for eating stuff like that. I'd be cooking the venison by now. The only insect l think l'd try is grasshopper.
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Yeah man I don't even like the way wet popcorn feels in my mouth, it always makes me think someone got it in there mouth and it fell out. I can't imagine knowing I have a bug that feels/tastes like a wet piece of popcorn, I think it made me throw up in my mouth a little just thinking about it.
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hoppers are ok but too many and your butt turns into a garden hose, trust me on this one.
a buddy of mine is an army ranger and we like to see who can eat the nastiest thing. He wins with the banana slugs. Earth worms are gross raw but edible cooked. Again dont eat anything raw because i have!
body weight is stable at 178
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Thanks for the pic of plaintain never knew what it was.Just thought it was a weed it's growing in my back yard tried it this weekend
a little bitter but not bad. Keep the faith
Thanks Leroy
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hoppers are ok but too many and your butt turns into a garden hose, trust me on this one.
a buddy of mine is an army ranger and we like to see who can eat the nastiest thing. He wins with the banana slugs. Earth worms are gross raw but edible cooked. Again dont eat anything raw because i have!
body weight is stable at 178
Ha....The worms are all yours big guy ;D
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I read a statistic somewhere that more people on earth depend on insect protein to survive than don't!
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I see you are still at it. :) I also found some Plaintain at the cabin,I also thought it was a weed
Do you eat it raw ? This is cool stuff may need to know this stuff someday. Thanks. :)
Pappy
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I read a statistic somewhere that more people on earth depend on insect protein to survive than don't!
Vegitarians probably don't realize that they're getting a little protein with their ruffage ;).
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This is a great learning experinence I found a shaggy mane mushroom in a flower bed( i think? according to the book)
didn't try it. I'm looking at my yard in a whole different light.
Thanks Leroy
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stoker that comment is exactly why i do this. its a test for me as well as learning some new things everytime i do it. but when other people take interest it means a lot more. if it gets one person to take interest its worth it.
by the way have i said that i couldnt of picked a worse time to do this. ;D
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wanted to add this byline that just because i can eat certain wild foods doesnt mean everybody can. many plants contain tannins, latex etc that can cause illness or allergic reactions. you need to know your foods and yourself.
kegan its a great edible plant as well as medicinal. my kids will grab plantain for a cut rather than a bandaid. grab a leaf , chew it up and apply to wound. it has great healing properties. ive used it on a copperhead bite and it reduced the damage from the bite a lot. i only lost the skin in the immediate area of the bite rather than most of the skin on the top of my hand.
We always chewed it up and put the poltice on bee and hornet stings.
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I'll remember that,I always put tobaco on bee stings,that work also,if you happen to have that bad habit like me. ;) :)
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Jamie, you inspired me. Me and a coworker ate some grubs and earthworms. tasted like dirt. Also, we harvested some wild ginger, ate some young smilax leaves and wood sorrel. It's amazing that a person could live off the plants in the woods without even having any meat. kudos to you brotha.
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Very cool. One thing though, we'd be dead without meat. You can get sustenance from plants but you'd starve to death eventually. On the other hand, you could survive on meat. You have to eat every part of the animal to do so but you will get what your body needs. Any way im still at it. Getting skinny but feel good. I broke once for a veggie pizza with a friend. But it was worth it. =) still busier than hell and definately not getting enough protein but it shows how long the body can last on a minimal diet. Or better put how many times we eat for pleasure rather than sustenance. One more week and im going to start eating some organic produce like rice and veggies but im gonna continue this wild thing for the rest of the year. I know ive been promising more pics just keep forgetting to take them. Also the diet has been pretty damn boring. Ill put up what i have tonight. Peace
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got one pic that actually came out good. this is purslane. most people weed this from their garden and throw it away . its more tasty and healthy than the rest of the vegetables they are growing.
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Does it grow flat to the ground in a big whorl? I think I just weeded about a bushel of it ::)
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yup!
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Culinary Uses
Although purslane is considered a weed in the United States, it can be eaten as a leaf vegetable. It has a slightly sour and salty taste and is eaten throughout much of Europe, Asia and Mexico.[3][1] The stems, leaves and flower buds are all good to eat. Purslane can be used fresh as a salad, stir-fried, or cooked like spinach, and because of its mucilaginous quality it is also suitable for soups and stews. Australian Aborigines used to use the seeds to make seedcakes.
Purslane contains more Omega-3 fatty acids (alpha-linolenic acid in particular[4]) than any other leafy vegetable plant. Simopoulos states that Purslane has .01 mg/g of Eicosapentaenoic acid (EPA). This is an extraordinary amount of EPA for land based vegetable sources. EPA is an Omega-3 fatty acid normally found mostly in fish, some algae and flax seeds. [5] It also contains vitamins (mainly vitamin A, vitamin C, and some vitamin B and carotenoids), as well as dietary minerals, such as magnesium, calcium, potassium and iron. Also present are two types of betalain alkaloid pigments, the reddish betacyanins (visible in the coloration of the stems) and the yellow betaxanthins (noticeable in the flowers and in the slight yellowish cast of the leaves). Both of these pigment types are potent antioxidants and have been found to have antimutagenic properties in laboratory studies.[6]
100 grams of fresh purslane leaves (about 1 cup) contain 300 to 400 mg of alpha-linolenic acid [7]. One cup of cooked leaves contains 90 mg of calcium, 561 mg of potassium, and more than 2,000 IUs of vitamin A.
Medicinal Uses
In Greek popular medicine, purslane is used as a remedy for constipation and inflammation of the urinary system.
A common plant in parts of India, purslane is known as "Sanhti", "Punarva", or "Kulfa". In North India it is known to act as a liver tonic and is used in diseases of the liver[citation needed].
Known as Ma Chi Xian (pinyin: translates literally as "horse tooth amaranth") in Traditional Chinese Medicine, it is used to treat infections or bleeding of the genito-urinary tract as well as dysentery. The fresh herb may also be applied topically to relieve sores and insect or snake bites on the skin.[8]
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yup!!!!!
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I'm getting my lady involved in this she is willing to try some of the plants like plaintain.
No worms! Ms Kerrie is generally a good sport about stuff. My Dad has purslane in his yard
he hates the stuff wait till I tell mom to cook it for him. My favorite thing when we would go
bear hunting in the spring was fiddleheads and rice. Take care
Thanks Leroy
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Very cool. One thing though, we'd be dead without meat. You can get sustenance from plants but you'd starve to death eventually. On the other hand, you could survive on meat. You have to eat every part of the animal to do so but you will get what your body needs. Any way im still at it. Getting skinny but feel good. I broke once for a veggie pizza with a friend. But it was worth it. =) still busier than hell and definately not getting enough protein but it shows how long the body can last on a minimal diet. Or better put how many times we eat for pleasure rather than sustenance. One more week and im going to start eating some organic produce like rice and veggies but im gonna continue this wild thing for the rest of the year. I know ive been promising more pics just keep forgetting to take them. Also the diet has been pretty damn boring. Ill put up what i have tonight. Peace
I think an individual person could survive on the right combination of fruits, vegetables and grains in the wild. Beans, acorns, and oils from acorns would be a necessity for protein intake. In a survival/wilderness situation it would be very difficult unless you were a guru botanist, nutritionist and had the ability to store food stuffs long term. I guess it also would depend on what climate you lived in, time of year, rainfall conditions, current health condition, etc.... Eskimos minus meat= dead eskimos. To sum up, it might be possible to live without meat in the wild but in most instances probably not. Homo sapiens and their ancestors would not have made it this far without the intake of meat protein. I for one, am a meat eater to the end!!!!! I like veggies too ;D
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Very cool. One thing though, we'd be dead without meat. You can get sustenance from plants but you'd starve to death eventually. On the other hand, you could survive on meat. You have to eat every part of the animal to do so but you will get what your body needs. Any way im still at it. Getting skinny but feel good. I broke once for a veggie pizza with a friend. But it was worth it. =) still busier than hell and definately not getting enough protein but it shows how long the body can last on a minimal diet. Or better put how many times we eat for pleasure rather than sustenance. One more week and im going to start eating some organic produce like rice and veggies but im gonna continue this wild thing for the rest of the year. I know ive been promising more pics just keep forgetting to take them. Also the diet has been pretty damn boring. Ill put up what i have tonight. Peace
I saw a nature special or somehting about some Inuit eating habbits, and they took it in both extremes- all meat and no meat. They had two guys who knew their stuff (modern setting though). The meat guy ate just about everything you could think of- including certain... er... "organs" that I'm sure gave very little nutritional value, nearly as much as they made the camera guy sick ;D. However, the no-meat guy got pretty sick, I don't remeber from what. He had to eat such a rediculous amount of nuts and what not that he wound up messing his digestive system up. By the end of their study, the meat guy was perfectly fine. The no-meat guy didn't look so good though :P. I think the test was like three months or something- I have to look for that show.
I think an individual person could survive on the right combination of fruits, vegetables and grains in the wild. Beans, acorns, and oils from acorns would be a necessity for protein intake. In a survival/wilderness situation it would be very difficult unless you were a guru botanist, nutritionist and had the ability to store food stuffs long term. I guess it also would depend on what climate you lived in, time of year, rainfall conditions, current health condition, etc.... Eskimos minus meat= dead eskimos. To sum up, it might be possible to live without meat in the wild but in most instances probably not. Homo sapiens and their ancestors would not have made it this far without the intake of meat protein. I for one, am a meat eater to the end!!!!! I like veggies too ;D
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Ok jamie I found a nice purslane I missed while weeding and tried it raw ;D MMMMM good Wife wouldn't try it though ???
I only ate a couple bites just to see how it sat in my system but I will be eating more now that I know its good tasting and good fer ys ;D
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good stuff eh dana. has a nice crisp taste
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good stuff eh dana. has a nice crisp taste
Yup its good but next time I think I will rinse the dirt off :P :D
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extra minerals and it builds up your resistence to tetnus and ecoli. =)
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jamie I work in a sewage plant, I get exposed to all kinds of little nasties and my immune system is cranking, haven't had a cold or flu in years ;D
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forgot about that. that'll kick your immune system into overdrive ;D
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jamie I work in a sewage plant, I get exposed to all kinds of little nasties and my immune system is cranking, haven't had a cold or flu in years ;D
Dana, what a way to jinx yourself. You probably have a sore throat as you read this.
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Rick I could probably drink water from New Yorks harbow and not get sick :P :o :D Might grow an extra appendage but not get sick 8)
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Rick I could probably drink water from New Yorks harbow and not get sick :P :o :D Might grow an extra appendage but not get sick 8)
Oh lord Dana with two heads. >:D
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Rick I could probably drink water from New Yorks harbow and not get sick :P :o :D Might grow an extra appendage but not get sick 8)
Oh lord Dana with two heads. >:D
Look at it this way ronnie I could argue with myself and not you guys ;D
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Rick I could probably drink water from New Yorks harbow and not get sick :P :o :D Might grow an extra appendage but not get sick 8)
Oh lord Dana with two heads. >:D
Look at it this way ronnie I could argue with myself and not you guys ;D
:D ;D
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Don't beleive Him Ronnie....He would have a few free Beers....and then still argue with everyone else...... >:D
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Don't beleive Him Ronnie....He would have a few free Beers....and then still argue with everyone else...... >:D
Probably but then I would be right twice as often eh ;) :D
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gotta point der Pard........ ::)
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Well at any rate he would argue twice as much. >:D
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Jamie, that's cool-I've done this for a few days here and there over the years, but never tried a month. I've experimented with eating a large variety of wild foods over the years, some of them I really like and some I could eat if I had to. The thing that keeps getting me is that I can't find a coffee or beer bush in the woods around here. ;D I'm like Dingleberry-I think I could live out of the woods myself if I didn't have to find food for a group of people or work a daytime job in the meantime. I wouldn't guarantee you that I would be within all the game laws, but I'd live....:)
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steve this was a pretty uneventful month. only thing i really learned this time was that i can go on a lot less than i ever thought i could. each time i do this i either learn a new food , or some type of enlightenment. this time i learned starvation. ;D. i think im going to upstate new york this weekend and the property is loaded with different edibles and small game
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Jamie, you need to come to Florida. If somebody went hungry here they need to be eliminated from the Gene Pool. I think survival off the land should be taught at the food stamp place.
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Eddie-I'll second that. I could never figure out why homeless people go to the city-I'd be out in the woods by a lake or river somewhere with a trotline, a line of snares, deadfalls, and crawfish traps, and run a check for fresh provided-by-Chevrolet deer along the road every morning. If you were near the coast, you got crabs, oysters and other shellfish, all kinds of fish and other goodies. You've got enough hogs down there to provide a pretty regular food source, too.
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amen
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Eddie-I'll second that. I could never figure out why homeless people go to the city-I'd be out in the woods by a lake or river somewhere with a trotline, a line of snares, deadfalls, and crawfish traps, and run a check for fresh provided-by-Chevrolet deer along the road every morning. If you were near the coast, you got crabs, oysters and other shellfish, all kinds of fish and other goodies. You've got enough hogs down there to provide a pretty regular food source, too.
That's why they're "homeless". If they're not smart enough to be able to come up with some way of sheltering themselves, why would you think they're smart enough to be able to actually fend for themsevles ;D?
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Way to go Jamie! I think it's good for the body and soul with what you've done. I tried the cattail roots once and puked profusely :P
Can you notice a positive mental difference at all? Scares me to think of all of the crud put into our foods nowadays.
Thanks Tracy
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kegan thats not entirely true. A lot of the street rats could teach us a lot about survival. Many of the document underground cities are set up along the same lines as aboriginal villages. Chief, doctor, spiritual guide. Although i know enough to survive in the woods. If i was in dire straights i would also want to know how to survive on the streets like them. Tom brown says he lived in central park for some time with them and was amazed with ther skills. As much as he tought them, they tought him.
yeah tracy my awareness goes through the roof when i do this. Are you sure you had cattail? Sounds more like iris poisoning. Vegetation is very similar in looks and will often grow together.
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lets see, dugout, longhouse, starvation....yup you get my vote for caveman of the month. ;D
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Looking back now, I was pretty sure but always room for error. You've got me inspired to do a mini quest now :)
Tracy
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Hey Jamie Since moving to Alaska,I have learned that the more local foods (Un-polluted) I can stuff in my craw,the healthier I am.Viruses don't touch me any more and I don't seem to have any other probs. either.Just turned 50.No pills needed. Lots to learn yet. Great thread here. Thanks for sharing. ' Frank
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thanks curve ;D
tracy if you do it definetly pick up a field guide. i'll look at the title of some of my books and give ya a list of the best. petersons is ok for i.d. but it has some flaws
fish thats very cool. i try to buy only local. problem is i cant get anybody to grow avocadoes up here. ;D
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Fascinating study, has anyone lived on wild for a significant time and what was the effect on your health?
zeNBowyer
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month at a time for me. and it always has a positive effect on my system. even this time after starving most of the time. when im eating normally i still get about 50% of my diet from wild food. a couple friends of mine are in the north woods of maine living completely primitive for a year. they'll be out this fall if they survived and i'll let everybody know how they did when and if they walk out.
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Jamie, ever read the Omnivore's Delimma by Michael Pollan? It's the natural history of 4 meals and one of them is the hunter-gatherer's meal. Seems fitting for the topic here.
Thanks for the info so far!
Any recommendations on mushrooms and fungus as far as a good reliable reference? Hate to make a mistake eating the wrong ones
Tracy
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i stick to the tree shrooms. oysters and chicken of the woods. puffballs and morels for the ground. i dont screw around with mushrooms. im definetly gonna look for that book
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You cannot afford a mistake with mushrooms if you are remote, unless you are an expert I would avoid mushrooms, it's my understanding their is very little nutrition in them anyway
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Congrats on your quest. Went to a 3d last weekend shot with a fellow that knew that area well learned alot.
Not to familiar withthe aspen parkland. I have the national adouban mushroom fleid guide it has good pictures
and disscriptions. I get my mushrooms at the store a little chicken in that department.
Thanks Leroy
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I have eaten bad mushrooms...talk about a fire hose! Both ends at the same time. Absolutely horrible. Be sure you know your schroom before you eat it. I ate what was probably false morels outside of Mo'town, WV.
Omnivores Dilemma is an excellent book! Those of you that enjoy reading really ought to pick it up.
Virtually all the red meat I eat is deer I get off Fort Stewart, plus I got one feral hog last year...bow season in a couple weeks! Then rifle season for weeks and weeks...can't wait to load the freezer again
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Some of the most dangerous mushrooms are toxic to your liver, lot more than just a little nausea/vomiting/other end, once your liver goes-
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I wish we had more edible 'shrooms in Florida. I only know of one I'd chance eating and gotten too old for that.
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you got a bunch of psychedelic shrooms down there ed. =)
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Great post! Have not checked in for quite a while and just read the entire thread. It is amazing how many free edibles grow in your yard or nearby that most people are unaware of. I can walk around my yard and gather lambs quarter, dandelion, burdock; all great greens. There is also lots of purslane, just pick and eat. If I have a stomach or digestive disorder; there is always Canadian Fleabane nearby. I often just pick leaves chew thoroughly and swallow......not ver tasty but very effective....the recommended method is to make a tea of it.
I have been interested in this for many years; and just recently began a study course that I picked up from the Ancient Roots group on Yahoo. Very good infor there.
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I would have loved to have a good medical work up on you before and after, especially the cholesterol data!
Just as a side note, I have been off beef for two years (less than 3 lbs total per year) but still eat red meat 6 nites a week. I'll let you guess what all I have eaten, LOL. My bad cholesterol went down 27 points to 163 and my doctor is really cranked up about it.
I gotta run now, time to apply for more South Dakota Antelope tags!
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ill do another this october and have my buddy/doctor do a physical and blood screen.
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Been a while since I last looked in. Jamie, I had no idea that they lived like that.That's so neat :)
Looking forward to your fally edition too :)!
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Jamie'
I went for 7 days without food once 3 of those with no food then went to the movies
after a good sweat lodge. The popcorn smell almost sent me into oversensitiveity mode,
very cool and scary at the same time.
You got all my respect bud, good worl and luck
J.B.
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thanks jb. i know what you mean about smells.
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This is an interesting thread I would love to be versed on survival and knowing and eating the right things. Of course I do know some being fish any mamals...bugs, fiddleheads,some roots. But there are lots of dangerous ones to avaoid. One thing is having a computer to look such things up EH? Or my droid in this case. I hope someday I can take off an extensive amount of time to go 100% ABO living I think 2 weeks for the first time out would be a killer. Thanks Jamie!
Russ
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very cool thread, thanks for the info. I gathered a bunch of camas this summer at my cabin, really high in starch, but tastes good. the natives gathered it and dried it, sometimes using earth ovens, I am trying to find out more info on preparing it. it gets really sticky when eaten raw or boiled. must be a good way to reduce the starch.
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Just be sure which camas you are using. There is one from the prairies in the Dakotas that is known to cause some "distress". It's called Death Camas. Wonder why, hehe.
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I need a cigarette and a beer after reading this thread !!
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me too after doing it ;D
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;D that was cool man,great job
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thanks man. its definetly interesting. it also is a great teacher. one thing to read it in a book, but when you rely on it it really soaks in. peace
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Jaimie was rereading this thread and not to soil it I have to say when the old lady took off and left I couldnt eat at all I lost almost 50lbs. after reading your post and how u fealt explosive not eating for awhile. Your body becomes euphoric at a certain point and for those who have starved to death probably didnt even hurt. It is so true it hurts like crazy at first but then it seems like u have loads of energy. Later I found out your body switches to survival mode and starts burning the stored fat and muscle. Anyway I could afford to lose some weight anyway! LOL thanx bro.
Russ
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your correct to a degree. cause i get that way in the spring when the work loud is insane. this was different though .
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I may follow your lead Jamie and do my own living off the wild for about a week or so and just see how it goes? Sounds like good redneck entertainment. I live within a stones throw of a river that's full of nature's bounty, the river can provide nearly everything a man needs to survive and I believe that's why Indians usually settled near them.
I also know where AA76 is coming from cause I was on the Atkins diet for over a year and lost over 100 lbs. on it. At first I was craving carbs like a mad man and thought I was gonna lose my mind, then after about 2 weeks of eating nothing but meat and veggies I felt awesome! The weight just started falling off like crazy and my energy level went through the roof. My wife at the time was reaping the benefits as well cause my sex drive went off the charts. LOL :o ;D
I think the body goes through a cleansing period until it rids itself of all the bad stuff we put in it, then the afterburners kick in. When I lost all the weight I felt better and looked better than I had since high school and was even about 15 lbs. lighter than when I graduated.
I need to get back on it again, but I'll have to put some fresh deer meat in my freezer first. That's what I mainly survived on when I was low carb eating.
Do you have any good links for wild edible plants or recipes for them? I live in Missouri and I know some of the goodies, but not nearly enough to keep it interesting. I know I can get plenty of protein with fish, crawdads, squirrels, ect. but it's the plants to go with it that I'm not too saavy about.
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Very interesting stuff, keep it up. I'm not very primitive, more traditional ;D
However I think I should know what to do when I get lost (When not if ;D)
Cattails, panfish, crayfish, and squirrel is the farthest ive been to a wild diet.
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The purslane is just starting to gow in between the rows of my garden....I see a purslane and chive salad in my near future!
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My hats off to you. I did alot of survile camping (we did'nt call it primitive) when I was in my teens and early 20's and I've went a week before and it sucked at first. But was'nt so bad after a couble trips. I can see that is said about what happens after a while. WE STAYED ALONG A WATER SYSTEMS AND FISHED AND TRAPPED. I was a trapper at the time so it was'nt so hard. But I sure learneD the finer points of snareing. Do you snare jamie any if not give it a try. It's sure carryed me.
LIKE I SAID MY HATS OFF TO YOU
GOOD LUCK
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very very interesting! i will be going to pick up some edible plant books for Ohio here in the next few days and definitely going to give this a try sometime! very inspirational!
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crooked arrow i have used snares before but not an expert. mostly squirrel lines. im better with deadfalls . i do carry wire with me when i go camping though, our campsite in upstate new york is loaded with cottontails and ive snared a few. definitely something i need to get better at.
merriick. i highly recommend books by samuel thayer and a new book ancestral plants by arthur haines. these two have dispelled a lot of the nyths surrounding wild edibles
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Dang Jamie, snaring is easier than a deadfall. I can snare most things, but I have never had success with a deadfall.
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Good thread, very inspiring! I've done cattails, dandelion, and berry fish, and bunny for a 2 week run the detox is rough but after that it is a great feeling.thanks for the pics.will be trying some of the yard veggies ;)
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Feel like this would be interesting to try one of these days. I live on 100 acres, we have a 2 acre spring fed pond filled with catfish, bass, bluegill, crappie, snapping turtles, snakes, and frogs, and I'm not adverse to eating any of them. Outside of that we have about 40 pecan trees, hickory trees, lots of acorn producing oaks, blackberries, muscadines, mulberry, dandelion, wild plantain, and chanterel mushrooms. We have a pretty good herd of deer, rabbits, squirrels, and some other forest creatures I might consider if I was hungry.
I don't know as many of the wild edibles as I would like to in order to give myself a completely balanced diet. I don't know enough of the natural carbohydrates, my diet would be filled with an overload of protein and not enough of everything else. I guess about a cup of pecans throughout the day would give me a healthy amount of fat.
I might try collecting and preserving all of the edibles I can as they come into season and try it during hunting season. If I go for this sort of diet for a month, I want it to be as balanced and healthy as possible. Collecting the things available and squirreling them away will allow that.
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wow amazing jamie!!!! :OK :OK :OK :OK :o :o :o :o
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Deerhunter21, you do realize Jamie's post is 9 yrs old. Bob