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Title: Yup'ik and Inuit arrows!
Post by: D. Tiller on September 16, 2009, 04:53:31 pm
I will have some pictures of these up soon. Went to the Anchorage museum and WOW what a nice collection. Those arrows they used where really thin at the nock. The ends where usueally capped with Ivory or bone and had a toggle point attached for sea otter hunting. The other points where straight bone, copper or ground slate. Best looking set of arrows I have ever seen done. Now to replicate them!!!
Title: Re: Yup'ik and Inuit arrows!
Post by: billy on September 16, 2009, 06:55:08 pm
Well then....POST SOME PICS!!!! :) :) :)
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Post by: recurve shooter on September 17, 2009, 09:58:46 am
PICS
Title: Re: Yup'ik and Inuit arrows!
Post by: stickbender on September 17, 2009, 02:16:29 pm

    Yeah, dude, we are like waitin for those picts! 8)

                                              wayne
Title: Re: Yup'ik and Inuit arrows!
Post by: sailordad on September 17, 2009, 06:10:59 pm
ya know i keep checking back,but still no pics :-\ :'( :'(

Title: Re: Yup'ik and Inuit arrows!
Post by: billy on September 17, 2009, 11:08:14 pm
uh...ok now....we better be gettin some pics soon.....or ELSE!!   ;D ;D ;D
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Post by: sailordad on September 18, 2009, 12:16:05 am
ok i see there still are NO PICS

well i aint coming back to this thread,well not untill ya post the pics
and then ya better update the title to show youve posted pics
im tired of coming back and being disappointed :P




lol
Title: Re: Yup'ik and Inuit arrows!
Post by: billy on September 18, 2009, 12:22:50 am
yeah, me too.  I'm about to get PI$$ed off!!!!!!
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Post by: medicinewheel on September 18, 2009, 12:55:20 am
DANG still no P I C S !!!!
 8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: Yup'ik and Inuit arrows!
Post by: D. Tiller on September 18, 2009, 10:55:25 am
Keep patient guys! (Like, thats going to happen! :-)  The camera is up in AK at the moment. When it gets back here not this saturday but the next I will post the pictures. Or....

http://www.anchoragemuseum.org/galleries/alaska_gallery/eskimo.aspx

http://www.yupikscience.org/3coastspring/3-1a.html

Many more pictures to come! Stay tuned. This may take a while!
 ;D
Title: Re: Yup'ik and Inuit arrows!
Post by: billy on September 18, 2009, 12:00:04 pm
DAMMIT!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Yup'ik and Inuit arrows!
Post by: DanaM on September 18, 2009, 12:04:16 pm
Tiller yer a damn tease, billy is about to drive out there and eat ya >:D
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Post by: billy on September 18, 2009, 12:06:53 pm
Yeah I know!  I'm getting hungry, and Tiller Butt steaks are sounding real good!!
Title: Re: Yup'ik and Inuit arrows!
Post by: DanaM on September 18, 2009, 12:30:01 pm
billy he probably tastes like soap  :P
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Post by: D. Tiller on September 18, 2009, 03:25:12 pm
JEESH! Tough crowd!!!
Title: Re: Yup'ik and Inuit arrows!
Post by: stickbender on September 18, 2009, 03:32:04 pm

      Just soak him in a fast flowing stream, for a day or so. ;)  Should clean easy. ;D
      I think the pictures, should get here pretty fast.  And they better be pretty impressive, or Billy, just might take off after you anyway.  He is a coiled spring, and the safety, is slipping...... :o

                                                          Wayne
Title: Re: Yup'ik and Inuit arrows!
Post by: D. Tiller on September 18, 2009, 03:43:04 pm
I'm like a ghost. You'll never find me!!!  ;D
Title: Re: Yup'ik and Inuit arrows!
Post by: warhawk on September 18, 2009, 03:50:34 pm
we need pis to see for ourselves
Title: Re: Yup'ik and Inuit arrows!
Post by: stickbender on September 18, 2009, 04:00:22 pm

     Warhawk, I hope there was supposed to be a " C " in there...... ;D

                                                Wayne
Title: Re: Yup'ik and Inuit arrows!
Post by: D. Tiller on September 18, 2009, 04:03:23 pm
Me too! What a typo!!!  :o
Title: Re: Yup'ik and Inuit arrows!
Post by: warhawk on September 18, 2009, 06:48:09 pm
TYPING MISTAKO i will try to type better formats and linguistic formulas to achieve a better understanding of the transmission of raw data perceived by the receiver. warhawk out
Title: Re: Yup'ik and Inuit arrows!
Post by: D. Tiller on September 18, 2009, 07:56:36 pm
Wah he Sae?
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Post by: DanaM on September 18, 2009, 08:12:47 pm
whollywuheh ;D
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Post by: warhawk on September 18, 2009, 08:36:57 pm
I was trying to sound edjumakated. I found some novaculite today and ill knapp some arrowhead tommorrow.
Title: Re: Yup'ik and Inuit arrows!
Post by: D. Tiller on September 18, 2009, 09:29:03 pm
I was trying to sound edjumakated. I found some novaculite today and ill knapp some arrowhead tommorrow.

Lucky duck. Just not up to breaking rock right now. Overworked underpaid!
Title: Re: Yup'ik and Inuit arrows!
Post by: mullet on September 18, 2009, 11:40:04 pm
 Don't start whining on here to David ::) You should have bought Post Cards and just gave us a slide show.
Title: Re: Yup'ik and Inuit arrows!
Post by: D. Tiller on September 19, 2009, 02:59:49 am
Its just one of those days!  >:(
Title: Re: Yup'ik and Inuit arrows!
Post by: medicinewheel on September 19, 2009, 09:50:46 am
Where' da photos?
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Post by: El Destructo on September 19, 2009, 10:51:30 am
I'm like a ghost. You'll never find me!!!  ;D

Don't have to see ya David....just use my Ole Snozz to sniff you out.....ain't too much out there that smells like Lemongrass....Lavender....Gardenias....or Tea Tree Oils....so you may be invisible...but you ain't going to be hard to find..... >:D
Title: Re: Yup'ik and Inuit arrows!
Post by: D. Tiller on September 19, 2009, 04:51:08 pm
Yeah! But...those scent are not meant to attract you, Mike. They are meant to attract the opposite sex!!!!!

I'm really starting to worry about you guys!  ;D

Title: Re: Yup'ik and Inuit arrows!
Post by: El Destructo on September 19, 2009, 05:12:37 pm
Yeah! But...those scent are not meant to attract you, Mike. They are meant to attract the opposite sex!!!!!

I'm really starting to worry about you guys!  ;D



Don't worry David.....Didn't say anything about being Attracted to it....just can't miss the Smell....not that it reminds me of a French.......Maid .... to play it safe! Me...I like the Smell of Burning Rubber....and Nitro-Methane.....Leather and Hide Glue cooking....not Foo-Foo.... ::)
Title: Re: Yup'ik and Inuit arrows!
Post by: billy on September 19, 2009, 10:01:22 pm
Alright....that's IT!  I'm tired of waiting!!  I'm gonna pack all my stuff in a car and drive out to WA state, find Mr. Tiller, and we're gonna play russian rullet with primitive bows!  When he gets an arrow in his keister, then I'll cook him up, eat him so there's no evidence, then steal his camera and post the pics on here!  Probably take about 2 weeks ya'll.    :D
Title: Re: Yup'ik and Inuit arrows!
Post by: warhawk on September 19, 2009, 10:17:26 pm
why dont you try an old indian fight with obsidian knifes and you right hand tied to each other by an eight foot rope. This sounds more in line with the flint knapping community of excellence. Im joking ok!!!!!!  >:D
Title: Re: Yup'ik and Inuit arrows!
Post by: stickbender on September 19, 2009, 11:11:32 pm

     El D, be gentle now,if he likes the Froo, froo, that is his choice, besides just because you're different, doesn't mean you're a bad person. ;D  But he does need to get those pictures.  But not to worry, our man of action, Billy is finally on the job!  :o
Perhaps a little lesson can be learned here......  Don't  say anything about pictures, unless you have them ready to post! ;)
Sort of like telling a bunch of Pit Bulls, you have a treat for them, and not having any...... :o

                                                           Wayne
Title: Re: Yup'ik and Inuit arrows!
Post by: D. Tiller on September 20, 2009, 06:12:55 pm
Even if Billy shows up he wont get the pictures!  Sheeesh! I already mentioned earlier the camera is still in Alaska. I DONT HAVE the pictures on me. I left it up there so my relatives could take more pictures. Friday, Saturday at the latest the pictures will be up.

Billy, I don't fight fair!  >:(  I let the women do all my fighting for me. You ever seen women fight? Nasty!  Thats the only word I have for it. I have now accumulated a large following of women that will do all my fighting for me. You think they would allow the source of all their good smelling stuff to perish? I DON'T THINK SO!!!! LOL!!!  ;D ;D ;D ;D

Seriously though! The pictures will be posted when I get my camera back from AK!

Again for all those who have dyslexia. The pictures will be up by the latest on SATURDAY!!!!

Grumble, Grumble,Grumble,Grumble,Grumble,Grumble,
Title: Re: Yup'ik and Inuit arrows!
Post by: stickbender on September 20, 2009, 07:06:38 pm

     David, be forewarned, Billy is bringing Chocolate, and you and he will be heading to Alaska, to the source of the camera. ;)
Chocolate, will out bid soap anyday of the year. ;D ;D
Title: Re: Yup'ik and Inuit arrows!
Post by: medicinewheel on September 21, 2009, 02:33:54 am
.... Friday, Saturday at the latest the pictures will be up.

.....

Yes, ...but WHICH friday, saturday  ??? ??? ???
Title: All right here they are Yup'ik and Aleut arrows! HA!!!
Post by: D. Tiller on September 28, 2009, 11:48:40 am
Some Aleut arrows used for hunting sea otters! More coming soon!!!  >:D

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Title: Re: Yup'ik and Inuit arrows!
Post by: warhawk on September 28, 2009, 03:58:44 pm
Are the arrowheads made out of whale bone or walrus ivory? the feathers are from what type of bird and how old are the arrows?
Title: Re: Yup'ik and Inuit arrows!
Post by: D. Tiller on September 28, 2009, 11:20:06 pm
Arrows age=old
Material of the for shaft = I think walrus tusk or whale bone
Feathers = whatever bird they could kill.

Sorry Warhawk, they had no mention on the displays of what exactly they where made of. I can only speculate that the wood was whatever drifted up on the beach. Most likely some kind of cedar.
Title: Re: Yup'ik and Inuit arrows!
Post by: billy on September 28, 2009, 11:20:54 pm
He's very lucky...I was packing my stuff up and was about to jump in the car and head his way..... just in the nick of time Mr. Tiller!!!!!   >:D >:D >:D
Title: Re: Yup'ik and Inuit arrows!
Post by: D. Tiller on September 28, 2009, 11:25:30 pm
I had made preparations for your arrival!  >:D >:D >:D
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Post by: D. Tiller on September 28, 2009, 11:32:55 pm
More Photos: Some of the cable backed bows and the points.

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Post by: D. Tiller on September 28, 2009, 11:35:56 pm
More stuff!

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Post by: D. Tiller on September 28, 2009, 11:39:09 pm
MORE!!!

Third one is arrow points made from bone.
Fourth is flint spear point.


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Title: Re: Yup'ik and Inuit arrows!
Post by: D. Tiller on September 28, 2009, 11:42:03 pm
Even MORE!!!!

First Slate ULU!
Second-Copper, and bone arrow points in arrow shafts.
Third - Iron/Ivory, Iron and bone points.



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Title: Re: Yup'ik and Inuit arrows!
Post by: D. Tiller on September 28, 2009, 11:44:36 pm
Yeah! I gots more...
more composite points

Thats it for now until I can get my hands on....the other camera!!!  >:D >:D >:D




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Title: Re: Yup'ik and Inuit arrows!
Post by: sailordad on September 29, 2009, 12:34:06 am
well gotta say

it was worth the wait 8)
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Post by: billy on September 29, 2009, 11:34:58 am
Those are awesome David!  Wish I coulda been with you to see those myself, and do some knapping with you!  Hopefully the economy will turn around, I'll get a killer job that pays me well, and I'll be able to come back out and visit soon!
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Post by: medicinewheel on September 29, 2009, 05:20:52 pm
Pictures! FINALLY!!!  ;D ;D ;D
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Post by: D. Tiller on September 30, 2009, 03:16:00 pm
Look forward to it Billy! Yeah, wish you could have seen them in the museum. I think we could get some cool replicas made. Think You might try to do some like these. The Ivory and bone points look pretty neat!
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Post by: Stoker on October 01, 2009, 12:50:42 pm
Great looking pics. Is the handle of the slate ulu wood or bone?
Thanks Leroy
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Post by: D. Tiller on October 01, 2009, 07:36:34 pm
Bone!
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Post by: Stoker on October 02, 2009, 08:14:49 pm
Thank D I got a peice of caulk board slate from a school thats about buight buight about 100 yiiers ago
and I have been saving for somthing really cool this could be it
Thanks Leroy
Title: Re: Yup'ik and Inuit arrows!
Post by: stickbender on October 02, 2009, 09:32:52 pm


     Stoker; that old slate, makes some mighty fine turkey callers! ;)

                                                                Wayne
Title: Re: Yup'ik and Inuit arrows!
Post by: D. Tiller on October 02, 2009, 10:42:47 pm
Either way some good projects! Have fun.  ;D
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Post by: Stoker on October 09, 2009, 02:26:09 pm
Stickbender I did think about that also we get a turkey tag about every 5 years I got three left to wait.
I should have enough to do one of each. I'll have to go to build alongs for some plans.Good idea ;D
Thanks Leroy

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Post by: hawkbow on October 09, 2009, 03:10:14 pm
Those are some amazing weapons... those northern peoples are a tough lot. I will make it a point to visit the museum next time I get to Anchorage.. thanks for sharing.. Hawk
Title: Re: Yup'ik and Inuit arrows!
Post by: stickbender on October 09, 2009, 05:14:04 pm

     Stoker, I had been thinking about making a caller, using a coconut for the box resonator.  Clean it up and scorch it and sand it down a bit.  Then fit the slate on top, and make a couple of slits on the bottom, for the sound to come out.  I might have to experiment with it to see what is the best place for the sound hole, and the size, style, slit, round hole, etc.  I think it would make a neat sounding turkey caller. ;)  8)

                                                                                   Wayne
Title: Re: Yup'ik and Inuit arrows!
Post by: Stoker on October 09, 2009, 05:27:14 pm
Thanks stickbender I'll giver a try. Sorry tiller didn't mean to take over your thread O:)
Thanks Leroy
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Post by: D. Tiller on October 11, 2009, 12:46:38 pm
Dont bother me none! Have fun.  ;D
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Post by: Pat B on October 11, 2009, 04:03:47 pm
Found turtle shells make a good turkey call with slate attached to the inside. Check the regs about the turtle shells before you try though!  ;)
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Post by: Stoker on October 13, 2009, 09:23:48 am
Turtle shell would be cool I'll have to check with the fish cops first
Thanks Leroy