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Title: Trade points
Post by: RidgeRunner on February 02, 2007, 10:44:37 am
What is the best way to cut trade points and knife blades out of old skill saw blades?
I have been told two different things by two different guys.
The first guy said that a clod chisel on an anvil would be the fastest way.
The second guy said that a hack saw with a (good blade) was the best way and would produce better shaped points over the cold chisel method.
I have not tried either way yet.

Thanks
David
Title: Re: Trade points
Post by: Pat B on February 02, 2007, 11:23:30 am
David, I've used a cold chisel and it worked fine. I have not used a hack saw yet but I bought a good blade the other day to try. There are trade offs with both methods.   I also tried a Drimmel with a small fiber disc. After 3 discs and no completed point I figured it would be cheeper to buy points. LOL That method didn't work for me but has for others.   Pat
Title: Re: Trade points
Post by: Hillbilly on February 02, 2007, 11:40:14 am
I've used a cold chisel, lots-o-work, but it works. I like to cut 'em out with a dremel, but I usually like to make trade points out of thinner stuff like old handsaw blades. Actually haven't made any in a while, use mostly stone points now.
Title: Re: Trade points
Post by: 1/2primitive on February 02, 2007, 05:11:24 pm
I've also used a dremel tool, w/ the fiber discs, they worked great for me.....
         Sean
Title: Re: Trade points
Post by: mullet on February 02, 2007, 06:15:05 pm
  I use a cold chisel on an anvil also.Then clean them up on my belt sander.I can now cut them so they each weigh 125 grn.
Title: Re: Trade points
Post by: RidgeRunner on February 02, 2007, 06:21:12 pm
10-4 Guys  and thanks
The cold chisel method will tried this weekend.
I do not have a good hack saw blade or a drimal yet.  My Birthday is comming up! ;D

Thanks
David
Title: Re: Trade points
Post by: RidgeRunner on February 05, 2007, 09:31:10 am
Just to let everyone know the cold chisel method worked well.
It took about an hour for me to cut 16 point out of one saw blade.

Three are completely finished. They have a blade that is 1" wide and 2" long.
I made a 1/4" long reverse angle on the back of the blade that tapers to a 3/8" wide
by 3/4" long tang. 

I hope this can be understood.  Man I have got to get me some way to post photos!

Thanks
David
Title: Re: Trade points
Post by: Pappy on February 05, 2007, 12:10:45 pm
I also use a drimmel tool,mine is air it dose good I cut out a dozen in a little over an Hr.
   Pappy

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Title: Re: Trade points
Post by: Pappy on February 05, 2007, 12:11:28 pm
These are 160 grain.
    Pappy
Title: Re: Trade points
Post by: RidgeRunner on February 05, 2007, 01:13:45 pm
Well one thing for sure, those look much better than what I made.
Pappy:
What type of material do you cut yours from?

Thanks
David
Title: Re: Trade points
Post by: Coo-wah-chobee on February 05, 2007, 01:36:12 pm
   ....................WOW Pappy !.Those are gorgeous-mine look like they came from a "neanderthal cave".well except they didn't have metal---great lookin heads !................bob
Title: Re: Trade points
Post by: Pappy on February 05, 2007, 01:54:34 pm
They were cut from band saw blades that came from the Nissan plant.I think they use them on
a big cut off saw.I have a buddy that works there in maintenance and he brings them to me.I also use them for scrapers,I'm not sure how thick they are but they are tough.I will mike them when I get a chance and see .I think I laid them out 2 in long by 1 in. wide.What ever the with of the blades are.He chops off the teeth before he brings them to me.
   Pappy
 
Title: Re: Trade points
Post by: Pappy on February 12, 2007, 01:06:10 pm
I finely got around to checking them.They are 50/1000 of an inch.
   Pappy
Title: Re: Trade points
Post by: bikermikearchery on March 27, 2007, 06:52:33 am
Just a tip, if you use the dremmel just scribe a line half way through the metal, Clamp at the line in a vice and snap the blade off. This will save some time and a lot of fiber wheels.
Title: Re: Trade points
Post by: Pappy on March 27, 2007, 12:42:57 pm
I'll try that next time,I do use a lot of wheels once they break through,if you don't
keep it perfectly straight. :)
   Pappy
Title: Re: Trade points
Post by: Easternarcher on March 27, 2007, 01:29:16 pm
Explain how a cold chisel works for this please..... ???
Title: Re: Trade points
Post by: Pat B on March 27, 2007, 01:42:56 pm
Place the stock to be cut on a hard surface(anvil) and with a sharp cold chisle(used for cutting steel) and a hammer, go around the shape to be cut out and score it by hitting the chisle with the hammer. If the scoring goes well, you ought to be able to snap the blanks out along the score lines as BikerMike suggests. Pat
Title: Re: Trade points
Post by: bikermikearchery on March 28, 2007, 07:36:35 am
That sounds easer than the dremmel. I tried a cold chisel once but I clamped the stock in a vice and beat the chisel through. Just made big ugly tears. I'll try it your way now.
Title: Re: Trade points
Post by: Easternarcher on March 28, 2007, 12:19:43 pm
I GOTTA TRY THIS....WOULD BE COOL TO MAKE MY OWN BROADHEADS. :)
Title: Re: Trade points
Post by: artcher1 on March 31, 2007, 01:14:25 pm
Just made my first trade point from a band saw blade. Steel's tougher then any circular saw bade I've used in the past for trades. Thickness and weight are the same for their dimensions though. 'Bout wrecked my hacksaw blade on the first one so I annealed the metal for the second attempt. Didn't help one bit! Going to have to find an easier method for cutting out this band saw material I reckon. Here's a pic-ART B

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Title: Re: Trade points
Post by: Coo-wah-chobee on March 31, 2007, 01:23:09 pm
   Damm---thats beautiful, mine when I made them could hardly be called trade points.nobody would trade for 'em. :D ; :D......bob
Title: Re: Trade points
Post by: duffontap on March 31, 2007, 03:03:25 pm
Very helpful thread.  I'll try a couple ways this weekend and post my progress.

             J. D. Duff
Title: Re: Trade points
Post by: duffontap on April 10, 2007, 03:19:12 am
Did I say 'this weekend'?  I meant this year.

       J. D. Duff
Title: Re: Trade points
Post by: rudderbows on April 15, 2007, 05:33:11 pm
I use a 10" cuttoff grinding wheel on a chopsaw.( Electric miter)  Cuts out a blank in about 10 seconds. The biggest problem which is easily overcome is using a piece of hardwood underneath the metal as a support. Clamping the steel down with a piece of hardwood on top also eliminated some safety problems and made for a cleaner cut.
Title: Re: Trade points
Post by: Justin Snyder on April 15, 2007, 06:04:38 pm
If you use your chop saw, make sure you use the wood under the metal.  Unless your chop saw is made for metal it probably has plastic on the deck.  The material being cut will get hot and melt the plastic on the deck.  Justin