Primitive Archer
Information and Resources => Primitive Archery Clubs => Topic started by: mowgli on November 28, 2009, 02:04:40 pm
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ARe there any primitive archers / archery clubs in /near the Houston tx area?
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PA office is in Houston... ;D
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I'm trying to find people I could shoot with in the area
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im in the woodlands! im going shooting this weekend and also to fell some wood for staves.shoot me a pm if you still read year old posts,lol.
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I am in austin area..
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Im in tomball ;D
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I'm in Spring.
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Im thinking a shoot in houston should be in order >:D
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Texas City Texas. We have the Salt grass archery club here. they shoot everything.
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Greetings and Salutations...
I'm on the West side of town, I-10 and West Sam Houston Tollroad area.
Pile diving every wood pile I see on lawn waste pick up day and Chopping down every hardwood tree I see... in my mind that is. ;D
Just getting going in building bows.
Building out my tillering tree, string jig and wood gathering.
Have my first bow, Osage self bow, ready to tiller.
-Gus
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Greetings and Salutations...
I'm on the West side of town, I-10 and West Sam Houston Tollroad area.
Pile diving every wood pile I see on lawn waste pick up day and Chopping down every hardwood tree I see... in my mind that is. ;D
Just getting going in building bows.
Building out my tillering tree, string jig and wood gathering.
Have my first bow, Osage self bow, ready to tiller.
-Gus
Hey gus just were exactly are you cuttin down these trees? Cus i live by the galleria and im dying to find a proper tree to split for some staves?
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I know Gus came up and cut some osage with me. Here's that thread from this summer.
http://www.primitivearcher.com/smf/index.php/topic,26710.0.html
George
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Man that looks like loads of fun. Would love to try splitting a tree one day. Dont know of any Osage trees in south east Texas though.
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Hello Aelerik,
Sorry, don't know how I missed this reply...
Had my nose to the grind stone lately. :)
I'm in the Gessner - Long Point area, I-10 West and West Sam Houston Parkway.
Most of my wood is already split, and still a bit green but I think I could pass a stave your way that is ready to rough out.
As well as help you get it to the point of floor tiller once it's seasoned. But I can't guarantee a good tiller yet... ;)
Still trying to get the tillering process worked out in my head.
Got one bow mostly tillered, and three others in process.
-gus
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Hello Aelerik,
Sorry, don't know how I missed this reply...
Had my nose to the grind stone lately. :)
I'm in the Gessner - Long Point area, I-10 West and West Sam Houston Parkway.
Most of my wood is already split, and still a bit green but I think I could pass a stave your way that is ready to rough out.
As well as help you get it to the point of floor tiller once it's seasoned. But I can't guarantee a good tiller yet... ;)
Still trying to get the tillering process worked out in my head.
Got one bow mostly tillered, and three others in process.
-gus
hmm srry i took so long to reply, yeah thatd be great though i have yet to make a bow from an actual stave, so far just red oak boards from home depot but if ur willing to sell one cheap I wouldnt mind stoppin by and snaggin it from ya.
-Al
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Not to worry Al, been busier than all get out myself lately.
As to the stave, I'm not really in the habit of selling 'em, but I'll trade you a stave for a cold Mountain Dew... :)
Send you a PM with my contact info.
-gus
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Hi y'all I'm in Laporte Tx. and just getting into making bows
and would like to get some pointers and do some shooting
-Bo-
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Had a chance to meet Aelerik yesterday.
Got him paired up with a decent stave from the Osage trees George and Cipriano and I fell back
on the July 4th weekend. The wood was down to 11%, still needs a bit of drying but pretty darn close considering its short life as a stave.
Got him lined out on chasing some rings and turned him loose...
Aelerik is a Very Nice, well mannered young man.
Eager to learn and ready to make wood shavings.
He is welcome any time.
As I am not a bowyer as of yet, I just stuck to the basics.
-gus
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Hello Bo,
I'm located up on the West Side of Houston.
Usually up for making shavings week day evenings or weekends.
How far have you gotten into the art of bow building?
-gus
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Hi Gus
Well I haven't got to far yet just finishing up my first
its a molly style that I am making from a pine 1x4 .
I have a elm stave roughed out but it still needs a lil more time
But so far I enjoy it.
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I hear ya Bo.
Man, a pine molly... That sounds like a tough design for a pine bow.
Do you have it shooting?
Not to far along yet myself.
Have one Osage bow shooting but not finished.
Two more Osage bows ready to tiller, mostly.
A Pecan sapling Longbow that is getting close to tillering.
Been spending a lot of time gathering materials and building tools for use in bow making.
Along with trying to learn to knapp and build arrows.
-gus
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Its getting close I did actually shoot it today but its not really ready
It has a crack in the back so I backed it with a cotton shirt
It helped some but it still needs some tillering one limb is still
a lil stiff. My next attempt is gonna be a elm stave I have roughed out
and curing.may attempt another board bow in a pyramid style.
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Ok well bow #1 didnt make it :'(
But that gives me reason to start another one
it was good learning expierience
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Yes Sir Bo,
Sorry you lost your Pine Molly.
From what I have read, pine can be made into a bow.
But you have to go Very Long, Very Wide, and Very Light in draw weight.
If you are board bow building I would recommend an Oak board.
Or Hickory/Pecan if you have access to it.
I've also read that the Molly design is a tougher to tiller owing to the flat uniform cross section of the bending sections of your limbs.
Have you considered a longbow or flatbow design?
-gus
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Yeah Gus my next board will be a pyramid style and most likely
Oak although I do have acess to pecan and some other
Nice stuff
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Hello Bo,
I hear ya.
Pecan will definitely do you better than Pine, hands down.
From the advice that I've seen on PA along with TTBB and other sources, Pecan works well when you keep your limb width at least two inches from the fades out to about mid limb then start your taper out to half inch tips.
I'm in the process of tillering a Pecan Sapling bow that is a bit more narrow at about an inch and a half out to mid limb, tapering to a half inch at the tips. But I made this bow Long at about seventy three inches n-t-n. Its holding together so far, but we'll see. ;)
-gus
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Hi Gus
im gonna start on my elm and i also have a mesquite board im
working out plans for lucky for me my dad mills his own lumber and gets some good contacs on trees
so i can get pretty descent bow makings. i would really like to get hold of some bois d'arc or as they call it elsewhere osage .
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The PA office is in Houston.. did you all know that? It used to be right by you Gus just off of the Toll Way.
It has moved but isn't too far from that. If you all get a shoot together you should let us know. :D
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Yes Ma'am C.G..
I did know you were in town but not where abouts. :)
It would be nice to do a bit of shooting once it cools off.
Bo, it does sound like you have a good wood connection going on.
Still trying to do a bit of wood networking locally myself.
Would be happy to pass an Osage stave your way.
But be warned all of my unworked Osage staves were cut in the past three to four months.
-gus
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Gus
It would be awsome to get some osage
and I could try and find you some bow wood
if you give me an idea of what you're looking for
Just send me a pm and we can swap contact info
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Excellent Bo,
Sending PM.
-gus
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Hey, Gus
I got your pm unfortunatly I just
started working a night shift scheduled for about
20 days. But as soon as I can i'd like to try
and get togerher. O btw I started on my elm and so far
so good I'm pretty happy with it. Also if you want a stave of elm
I have some elm left that I still need to split right now that's
about all I have. But I got my feelers out for more
-Bo-
Laporte TEXAS
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No worried Bo,
The Osage will be here seasoning when you are ready.
Elm is cool.
Should be felling a Lacebark Elm in the next month or so.
Heading to South Central Texas in short order, hoping to gather some materials along the way.
Maybe we can get together towards the end of October.
Regards,
-gus
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Gus,
Late oct. Sounds good
You heading out there to hunt?
Hopefully I'll have a chance to
Slpit the rest of the elm between now and then
and I may have a line on some crepe mertle
If you are hunting good luck
- Bo-
Laporte TEXAS
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Yes Sir,
Good deal.
Doing a bit of Dove Hunting and may have a shot at a hog... all gun.
But will also be wood, rock and snake hunting.
gus-
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Hey guys and gals,
I'm in spring/tomball area. Got my second bow almost done and waiting on a MEET. when is it going to happen and where?
O and one of my customers is HOUSTON HARDWOODS off w34th st and 290, they have pretty much any kind of wood you can think of and for great prices.
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Hi Jermcramp,
Welcome.
Man, I've spent quite a few hours digging through Houston Hardwoods Racks and Bins... :)
The idea of having a monthly or biweekly or some such get together for bow making and what not has been loosely discussed.
And even more so after reading Miss Sadiejane's thread on the Bow Class that she has going out her way.
I guess the thing to do would be to find a willing soul who could host.
It would be good if the place was centrally located but that is not a show stopper.
Having some room to work and shoot would be helpfull.
Then find a time most suitable to as many as would be interested in coming.
I don't mind hosting, we're located in Spring Branch.
Have some workable facilities but mostly a hand tools setup at the moment.
Think we could manage a twenty yard mini range.
Lets talk it up!!! ;)
-gus
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I would love to host but my 7 mo prego wife might not be up for that...
As far as tools, I cut shape with skill and the rest rasp and file...
And I think 20 yds is perfect!
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I'll get the yard and work benches squared away.
Next we need to decide on when we want to meet.
Bohunter0908 had expressed an interest in a get together.
Aelerik might be up for it as well.
I'm up for most any day Except for Tuesdays.
Once we get a first meet together the rest will sort itself out as we go... :)
Lets make some Shavings!
-gus
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Jermcramp1
Congrats
My better half is also 7 months
preggers ....
Gus
I'm all for making shavings
just give me the when and where
when you get it figured out
-Bo-
Laporte TEXAS
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Yes Sir,
So are you guys more open to evenings or do you perfer a day time meet?
And week day or weekend?
I'm pretty easy as long as I have a few days to get the time off.
Just getting her dialed in.
-gus
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Any chance yall just wanna meet up for lunch or somethin and drive around lookin for some trees outside H-town?? Im pretty much as new as u can be to this but im sure we can find somethin worth choppin down if we all just meet up. Only reason i say we meet up is because i noticed the problem with tryin to stuff 3-5 people in one persons yard. I think it'd be cool though to just sit down and talk about bows with other people. If yall want to, lets try and get somethin coordinated.
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It might not be a bad idea to look up that 70 tree listing on Craigs List again to see if there is anything there of interest.
It was on the north side of town but not far out.
As far as hunting trees go, I'm pretty covered up at the moment.
Probably won't be tree hunting till after sinew season.
That is unless I hear of an Osage or Black Walnut or some such tree that needs whackin'.
Anyone want to come by and do some white tail leg cutting this Saturday or Sunday let me know.
You keep what you cut.
:)
-gus
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Howdy guys. Imin devers.tx between liberty and beaumont. I am a lapidarist. And a silversmith. And an radiocontrol pilot. Now i want to make bows. Have access to a big patch of bamboo and cypress and mesquite. And need all the help i can get.
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Hi Fellas. I'm in the Woodlands/Spring area and just putting the finishing touches on my first red oak board bow. I'm starting the floor tillering on my next board, but I already have an itch to try a stave. I imagine I may have to purchase one which would be fine for my first, but I'm interested in where/how some of you are getting access to the ability to chop your own tree? I'm still kind of fresh to the Houston area and don't have any access to land, so just kind of wondering. Do any of the lumber yards around here happen to sell staves or is it best to just fork out the cash for reasonably priced first stave off the internet? I appreciate any help or advice for broke college student ;)
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Hello heliopilot and AJMag.
Welcome aboard.
You've found one of the best sources of information geared toward the so called Primitive Arts on the web.
At least in my honest opinion.
In my short year of time here on the PA Forum I've had the pleasure to meet and deal with some of the Nicest folks I could have asked to meet.
The good folks here have a Wealth of knowledge running down most any path from Bow Building to Flint Knapping to Primitive Living in all its intricacies.
I am no expert nor am I a bowyer, though I've got a couple of shooting bows and few sharp arrow heads knapped out so far... :)
I'm out on the West side of Houston near I-10 and the West Sam Houston Toll Road.
If y'all make it out this way I'll be happy to pass a good stave into your hands and help you get started working it.
As for staves and wood in general around the Houston area.
Two good places to hunt hardwood boards are:
Houston Hardwoods: http://www.houstonhardwoods.com/
Clark's Hardwood Lumber: http://www.clarkshardwood.com/
I also keep my ear out for the Dreaded Wood Chippers when I out and about around town.
With the drought of the past year there are Thousands of hardwood trees being taken down and mostly chipped.
I've had some luck with stopping and picking up wood from them.
Another potential source is Tree Trimming Companies.
Yet another option are the good folks here on PA.
Every now and then folks will get together for a wood cutting party.
The next to last option for the uninitiated is Ebay.
You can find good wood on Ebay, but you can get stung as well.
The last option, at least on my list, are Some of the premium purveyors of staves on the net.
Once again there are some good ones, and there are some not so good ones.
One of the good ones, in my opinion, is Gary Davis of Rattlestick Bows.
He sells Excellent Osage Staves that are nearly Floor Tillered when you receive them.
We have started trying to have a Houston get together once a month to work on bows and what have ya and y'all are welcome to come by make shavings.
At the moment the next get together will most likely be sometime in February.
The date is yet to be determined.
Sorry didn't meat to write a book... :)
Best Regards,
-gus
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Hey Guys,
My name is Aaron and I am in the Humble Area (NE Houston). I'm just starting out with bow building and thought I'd connect with a local community of bow builders. I have my tillering tree built and my garage workshop ready for the first round of bows. I'm starting (on a budget) with a Holmegaard of red oak from Lowe's. Then I hope to make it out to the hardwood shop on 290 for some more interesting bow/backing combos. Anyways, just wanted to say Hey and if there is a get together I'd love to meet other like-minded folks. My only other obligations are my wife, college and bows. Cheers.
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Hello Aaron,
Welcome aboard!
Would be happy to include you in the Houston Group when we get going again.
We've not had a meet this year as of yet.
Two of the guys, which is the lion's share of the group, have new babies and my plate has been pretty full.
With that said I have a feeling that once things settle down and the weather warms a bit, the get to gethers will
get going again... :)
When you make it out this way I'll be happy to get an Osage stave into your hands to give you an alternative wood to work with.
Hope you enjoy this site and the Great Folks on it!
-gus
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To my fellow Houstonians,
With tree trimming time upon us, I am looking for insight. Does anyone know of local species of trees that make good bow wood that I should be on the lookout for? I see the occasional hardwood trunk on the trailers of tree trimmers and would love any info on local trees you guys have had success with.
Cheers,
Aaron
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aclewis3,
You bet.
Mulberry is a top notch local bow wood.
Crepe Myrtle is a good choice.
Elm Trees make good bow wood
Hackberry is another.
White Oak
Red Oak
Sycamore should not be over looked.
Just to name a few
And Osage starts showing up around Livingston heading north.
-gus
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Thanks Gus
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Hello Everybody,
Just thought I would bump this thread to the top and start getting some ideas bouncing around for a Houston Primitive Get Together.
It's been quite a wile since our last get together, and there are some new Houston Folks coming aboard P.A...
So How about we get something brewing for June?
Any ideas or preferences for a Date or Day of the week?
Like a Saturday or Sunday, what is good for everyone?
Would we want to try for June 9th or 10th?
We can get together at my place, unless someone else has a better place or wants to host.
Hope all is well!
-gus
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A get together would be great I work the 9th & 10th and is prefer sat but i will do what I can to make it to where ever when ever
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I'll be there if I can! We are moving to San Antonio in Sept. so we are going back and forth a lot on the weekends now.
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I'll be there if I can! We are moving to San Antonio in Sept. so we are going back and forth a lot on the weekends now.
AH You Lucky Dog!!!
Sorry to see you leaving the Houston area, but I don't blame you a bit!!!
Hope to see you next Saturday!
-gus
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Okay, lets plan it for next Saturday the 9th then.
We can get going as early as folks want to.
I've got the band saw humming pretty nice so we have it available for wood work.
I have some Rock and tools available for knapping.
I'll throw something down on the smoker for us to eat. :)
Who ever is interested in coming drop me a PM and I'll send you the address.
-gus
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Awe man we are going to meet with a realtor in SA on the 9th. But I got a few more bamboo poles and some staves I need to unload on ya if you want them, I got more than I can make and don't want to take them with me...Maybe I can drop them off next week before the meet so you can pass em around?
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Man, I can dig it... I wish you Good Luck with the Realtor.
Hope you find a nice place at a good price!
And at the same time sorry that y'all are leaving the area.
Would love to have your over flow.
I hope to start experimenting with some of the Boo that you gifted me, running it through the band saw to learn.
Just shout at me when you want to come by.
-gus
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Whats a good time for you ? Weaving a sling can be time consuming and messy . You will also need to post guards on the neighbors rock beds.
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I'd say any time after 9am.
By then I should have the Family and pets fed and wrangled into the day.
-gus
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Darwin came by just after lunch today.
After talking about the Primitive Arts and Checking out gear and bows for a little while we got to work.
We had a great afternoon Chasing Rings on Osage Staves and shooting the breeze. :)
I enjoyed meeting you Darwin.
You are welcome any time.
Judging by your Hickory/Ipe/Hickory Tri-Lam Longbow and your Garden Stake Bamboo arrows, you do Good work.
Sorry we missed you badcolsonbad and driftwood.
Hope y'all can make it next time.
:)
-gus
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It was a total blast had a great time working with Gus sorry I didn't get to meet any other guys but had a great time thanks again gus
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I missed it. A birthday came up that I forgot. This day has been bad like that. On the bright side, I found some intriguing wood. Its bright white, and when I put my hawk into it it smelled of ginger. Could this be sassafras ? If I can get all of it, could I bring it over to you for inspection ? It does have a bit of wobble, but its pretty straight compared to some of the stuff I have seen you guys make bows out of.
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Darwin came by just after lunch today.
After talking about the Primitive Arts and Checking out gear and bows for a little while we got to work.
We had a great afternoon Chasing Rings on Osage Staves and shooting the breeze. :)
I enjoyed meeting you Darwin.
You are welcome any time.
Judging by your Hickory/Ipe/Hickory Tri-Lam Longbow and your Garden Stake Bamboo arrows, you do Good work.
Sorry we missed you badcolsonbad and driftwood.
Hope y'all can make it next time.
:)
-gus
I feel pretty rotten about it. Rude of me to not call.
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No Worries bcb,
Sorry we missed you.
Hopefully we'll see you for the next Primitive Get Together.
I'd be up for another one after the 4th of July.
Have to Hammer Down on my trade bow and another project or two till then. :)
-gus
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I had a feeling that I've been missing out on things. I was hoping to get on here regularly enough to catch some kind of get together to see some others in action. This college class/working "stuff" has dominated my life and I haven't even had much time to continue on the last board I started. Just wanted to mention that I'm going to try my best and pay better attention for any upcoming dates.
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Where in Houston are you located?
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I hear ya AJ...
Stuff Happens... :o
Hopefully we can get something going on for early to mid July.
-gus
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Where in Houston are you located?
Not sure if this was meant towards me or someone else, but up towards the Magnolia area near the back side of The Woodlands
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Sorry should have specified but yes I ment you I'm in Houston near westheimer
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My daughter lives in Houston. If I ever get down there again I'll have to send out a heads up and maybe get to meet a few of you guys. 8) I was there once before when she first moved there.
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That would be neat
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Yes Sir Pat!
That would be Awesome!
We'd have to fire off the smoker, make some Flakes and Shavings, and smoke a Cigar or two.
Maybe even hoist a shot of Primo Aged Tequila or two after all work had stopped... ;D
-gus
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How could I resist such an offer, Gus. 8)
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Hey Gus,
when are yall having another get together
sorry I've been outta pocket for awhile
been busy with the baby and work
And just life in general. I did finaly finish a bow without it
breaking atleast not yet :-\ still got a lil finish work to do but its in 1 piece
Let me know when yall are gonna have another gathrring
-Bo-
LAPORTE TEXAS
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Hey Bo,
Glad to hear from ya.
Hope you and your Family are doing well.
Had my head down mostly covered up with Family Business the past six months.
But that is mostly finished.
Had a couple of shooters finished and shipped.
About to finish a new Osage Molly and a Sinew Backed Osage Longbow with flipped tips.
Also working on a Problem Child Rawhide Backed Yew Pyramid that may be my first Explode-O-Bow.
We need to have a get to gether towards the end of September or early October.
Preferably after an early season cool front. :)
I say lets start talking it up and see who's interested in getting together.
-gus
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Definitely wouldn't mind a get together, and definitely wouldn't mind a cool front beforehand. Got a couple I'm working on when I can manage to stand the heat. Even though I've got target fixation on deer season, I'd be down to sacrifice a day to join in, assuming no demanding class assignments, also.
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Gus,
That sounds good to me late september
early october cool front all sound good to me
I got my crepemyrtle shooting its not the
fastest but it is'nt broke :) I'll probaly just
use it for wascaly wabbits
I still havent done anything with the osage stave
that you gave me thanks again
i think i may try and get it atleast cut
and laid out pretty soon just want to be sure me and it are both
good and ready
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Just seeing if yall are getting together this sept or oct.. 2013
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Hey 4dog,
I'm up for a Sept or October get together.
Heck it's been more than a year since our last Houston gathering.
That's just too long...
-Gus
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Well that sounds cool have a few other guys up here in College Station area , Sasquatch is up here maybe we can scrape together enough guys , though since i last posted s, you seem to be the only one thats game in houston, i will talk to the others and see if they are up for it being here , havr access to spots at Somerville Lake , we could go primitive , no a/c , no electric , just throwin this out there.
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That sounds good to me...
I'm working on a Reciever Hitch pedestal setup for a vice.
It would make it easier to do stave work in a primitive setting.
Lakeside would be Very Nice... :)
-gus
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Let me talk to my contact at Welch Park,see if i can get us a spot,( kinda got the perfect spot in mind already) will post more info when i got it ,maybe a little 3-d range if i can find the targets.
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Wow folks sounds great! I live in Oregon but get to Houston 6 to 10 times a year. I'd love to meet up with you folks and make some wood chips or shoot just the same! If I know the time and place I can work it into my schedule.
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Well dont everyone chime in at once, i guess not enough guys wanna play?
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That's weird, I replied to this message last night... From my IPad.
Not sure why it didn't take...
In any event... That Sounds Great!
Welch Park sounds like a cool place... :)
I'd love to check Summerville out.
http://www.sailingtexas.com/Movies/LakeSomerville/clakesomervillewelch.html
-gus
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Gus,saw your post, but if im gonna go the extra mile to get the space ,gitta have more guys and gals, got a cool spot picked out, have to nail down details, might be a very small fee to get into the park but if anyones interested speaking up now would be a good thing..lol..otherwise
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I hear ya 4Dog...
Unfortunately we can't Make folks have a good time... :)
Lets Hope some others will speak up soon.
-gus
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Makes a guy sad. :'(
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I'm in even if there's just a few. Yah gotta start somewhere. Might help if you open up a new thread for it instead of jacking this one :P
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Dang Jason why dont ya just put yer 2 cents in sheesh.....lol
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That's what this thread is about now, Houston Area Happenings... Why start another?
There's some Excellent info in this thread for Houston Area Folks as well as others.
We didn't Jack It... We Confiscated It... >:D
-gus
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Hey Gus, Cipriano is threatening to go out cutting osage again up here. Y'all ought to road trip up here and take back a load. I don't want any more but I'm always up for a trip out to Thomas' place. It's almost hot enough for us to cut some wood. >:D
George
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HAHA!
Heck Sir, it is good to hear from ya...
I am about ready to do some wood cutting.
Just need to pick up a new chain for my saw.
Or we could just use Cip's new Sthil!!! >:D
What about the first weekend in August or there abouts?
It should be hot enough by then...
HeHe...
I'll get my wedges tuned up.
-gus
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That's right Gus. Come on down.. Will be hot fun times!! Yea. That Stihl's not even broken in..
Cipriano
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Down?? Won't he drive 5 hours north?? ;)
My Stihl is well broken in, but I don't think I've started it since the last time we cut wood. ::) I guess this time I should make sure it actually runs before you guys get up here. Mary says we'll be home the first 2 weekends in August and Thomas said he'd leave the tractor out for us if we came when he wasn't there so I don't think there's any reason we can't do it. Let me know which weekend you choose.
George
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Haa haa George. It's always up from here.. I'm sure we will have plenty of saws.. Should be a blast..
Cipriano
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Yes Sir...
I'll have my Sthil in fighting shape for some Bodark...
How about in two weeks?
August 4th?
Done talked with my Missus about it. :)
The Green Light is lit.
-gus
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The 4th works for me too.
George
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Alright Sir, I'll be there with Bells On... and a Chainsaw... and maybe a trailer... :)
Best Regards,
-gus
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How far up we talkin, i wouldnt mind a short road trip,,give me a chance to actually meet some of yall TEXAS bowyers ,(not that i consider myself one) , maybe do some "snakin"!! 8) im near college station.
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You'd be going to the northeast side of the Dallas burbs. I live near Wylie, and the place we cut from is just northeast of McKinney which is a little further north. If you want to check it with your GPS, the zip here is 75098.
Within reason, anyone that's interested in getting some osage that's driving distance from Dallas is welcome. Thomas said he had 4 osage trees picked out for us to cut. I don't personally know which ones they are. He also has dead straight cedar elm and hackberry that he'd probably let us cut. I can check if somebody wants it. I also think there's more osage too, though it probably isn't as easy to access. There's one huge old osage monarch that is 90% dead already, but I don't think there's a place on it that's straight for over 3'. Best part of the whole deal is that Thomas keeps a brush pile going all the time and will clean up all the small branches and wood we don't take after we leave.
What we did last year is meet at my house about 8:30am for my wife's famous biscuits and gravy. Of course, this means the guys from down south have to leave real early. Sorry about that. Let me know who's planning to come. I know we talked about the 4th earlier, but I'm planning on Saturday, Aug 3rd. Correct me if I'm wrong Gus. I wouldn't be available until after lunch on Sunday.
George
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No Sir George,
You are correct it's Saturday I was thinking of...
I'm good for what ever Mr Thomas wants cut.
I do want to make a pass on that old Monarch though.
I'm looking for just the right piece for a High Profile Walking Stick... :)
Not a lot, just a little...
-gus
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So that would be this saturday correct or am i as tired as i think i am right now???? Lol
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Yes indeed, this coming Saturday...
-gus
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Gus,
Have you got an arrival time in mind yet? Cipriano was asking if I knew. Do you guys want breakfast again, or want to get after it early before it gets too hot?
George
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George, I hate to turn down that delicious breakfast, but I say lets get after it early before it gets too hot. The earlier the better for me. Just let me know what time to get there..
Cipriano
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I'm easy...
I'll go with what ever you fellers want to do.
Just tell me what time you want me there.
I would recommend that we not spend time and effort splitting logs this trip.
Keeping our focus on cutting, loading and hauling waste wood to the brush pile.
-gus
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Excellent idea Gus.. We were worn out after splitting the logs.. Great plan..
Cipriano
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Are you sure that was this last time? I thought we only split wood to be able to lift it that first time? We can load logs in pickups with the tractor loader again and I don't think the remaining trees are as large as that first one was. I could be wrong though. I'm fine with us heading straight over there. How early can you make it Gus? We have a spare bed if you want to drive up Friday night. I'll be a zombie though, have a hog hunt Thursday night.
George
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Haha...
That first time was the last time Cipriano made it to cut... :)
And it was a Humdinger of a set of Osage Trees for sure...
Looking forward to Breaking In Cipriano's New Sthil... 8)
I'm planning on crashing at my Uncle's place Friday night.
So I should be able to be at your place by 6:00 or 6:30 George.
Or even earlier if necessary...
Just tell me what time you want me there.
-gus
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Then it's back to Cipriano and 4dog. How early can you guys make it? I'll be up by 6 but I don't think we should run chain saws out at Thomas' until at least 7 or so. He said the earlier the better, but I want to be considerate to his family too.
George
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Early.. Let us meet at 6:30AM ready to go. Thomas lives about 30 minutes away; right? I think it's a good plan to start at 7.
Cipriano
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Okay then, I'll plan on being at George's place by 6:30 Saturday morning...
:)
-gus
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Works for me. See you Saturday morning at 6:30.
George
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Still trying to get things wrkd out so i can make it,might be one of those last minute things,im trying...lol
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Ok. See y'all at 6:30..
Cipriano
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Works for me. 4dog, if you can't be there that early let me know and I'll pm you my phone number so I can direct you to us.
George
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Howdy all.
Just saw this thread this morning. I know a bunch of you guys are outta town on a wood getting spree. Sounds like a good time. I am in the Tomball/Magnolia area, and recently started working on a juniper bow from some wood I brought with me when I moved down here from Montana a couple years ago. I still have to figure out how to post pictures and stuff on this site, but just wanted to drop a line and say howdy. Would like to get deeper into primitive archery than just the magazine. LOL! I've been shooting recurves for about 11 years, but haven't gotten to hunt since I moved down here, thanks to work constraints and working out of state last year. Anyway, glad I found somewhere to hang out and get some advice and hopefully meet some new friends.
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Welcome to PA Micheal ...guys i really will try and host a gtg at Lake Somerville if anyone other than myself is interest,maybe before the season starts?
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Welcome Michael,
I'm in Spring Branch.
4dog, I'm still interested in Somerville...
But I'm thinking more once it cools off a bit...
COME ON FALL!
:)
-gus
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I just dont want to get in the way of hunting time.
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Hey 4Dog or Gus, are ya'll still doing get togethers over there? I'm a couple hours away in Buna, bout 30 minutes north of Beaumont. If ya'll do get together I'd like to join in, I know its been awhile since anyone posted here but thought it wouldn't hurt to see whats going on in ya'lls area. I'd love to meet up with some like minded people and make some shavings.
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Hey Stickman,
We haven't had a Get Together in a while.
We were talking about having one then Hunting Season got going.
But I look for something in the next month or so.
-gus
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Bump,
I live in NW houston.
If you guys meet up to build some bows, if y'all wouldn't mind, I'd like to hang around a learn a thing or two.
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Hello Knosaj,
We haven't had a Get Together in some time...
I would venture to say Life has gotten the better of us as far as Getting Together goes...
However, I'm on the West side of town, Spring Branch.
At least for the next month or two.
You are welcome to come by and make some shavings...
I'm no Bowyer but I have built a few shooters... :)
PM me if you like and we can try to get something going
-gus
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Sounds good. I plan on making one this weekend.
I might learn more from someone more experience after I get one under my belt.
So in the next few weeks when I've got an open Saturday or something maybe can hook up!
Thanks for the offer Gus!
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Howdy everyone.
Been a while since I was on here last. Our computer went down, and fighting with the kids for time on their tablet is nearly a moot point. Lol! I presume everyone made it into the new year alright, hopefully.
Do any of you guys go to any of the 3D shoots? I know there is one today at Buffalo Field Archery today, and I think there is one over by Conroe at Archery on Fire next weekend, as well as the ASA qualifier there this weekend, too.
Have any of you done anything with western juniper before? I want to finish up my first bow I started last year, but don't know where to go beyond roughing out the bow. It is 60" tip to tip, currently, though I may trim it down a bit more if it looks like the small bit of twist it has at the tips is going to be a problem. The 8' log the stave came from had 180 degrees of twist in it. The whole tree was actually able to grow very straight, so it never really clicked that it would have any twist, until the first two halves popped apart. Also, where I am with it now, I need to know how to proceed with the cambium layer. I had one friend with decades of experience with selfbows tell me to leave it on, and back over it with rawhide or another backing. Other guys I have talked to said to take the cambium off completely. One person said he has seen them stripped down to wood and left unbacked. So, any input? Lol! Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Michael
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Micheal, I regularly attend the Brazos County Archery Clubs 3-D shoots. Thats over in Bryan Tx, not to far from you i think. There's 4 of us close to this area that are avid bowyers. Give me a shout if you wanna go to one of the shoots some time or visit my bow shop....i mean garage >:D
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Hello Michael,
I'm currently located in Spring Branch.
Well be here for the next two weeks.
Then we'll be popping up in the Woodlands for a while.
Hoping to land in the Conroe area in the not too distant future.
You are welcome to swing by now or later.
I'm sure I could put a stave or two into your hands to play with.
As to your Juniper Bow.
If you are gonna back it, I would take the Cambium layer off.
But that's just me.
-gus
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Gus i used to live in off kempwood when i was a kid. We left that area when i was about 12. When are you guys moving and why are yah getting rid of the wood. I'm fairly certain that i would make room for my wood pile. i would stack it nicely in the master bedroom and then strategically place the matresses over the top of it and call it a bed.
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Howdy Gus,
Where will you be located in the Woodlands? There is a monthly shoot over there, just east of I-45 a few miles, at Archery on Fire. I made it to last month's shoot, and am hoping to pull off this weekend's shoot.
I saw a posting of a juniper bow a fellow did on here, and it looked like he left it unbacked, but took the cambium layer off, too. Was a great looking bow. Also saw something about using the heartwood, and backing that, too, so I may try that so I get some of the heartwood coloration.
What kind of staves do you have on hand? I wouldn't mind getting a decent quality stave to practice on, as the juniper material I have currently isn't particularly rookie-friendly, what with the twist it has.
Talk to you soon.
Michael
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Ink,
I'm just down from Kempwood off the West end of Long Point.
And I'm hoping to leave too much behind, Wood, Rock or Iron.
But in truth I have Several Tons of wood and Stone to move.
So if I could pass along a Stave, Split or Log along to some local folks that need it, that would be good for them and me. But if nobody wants it I'll just have to take it all with me...
;)
Michael, we are gonna be up near Woodlands Parkway.
I'd love to make some of the Shoots up that way once we get settled.
You can make a Juniper Self Bow.
The nicer the Piece of Juniper is, the better your chances.
I could lay an Osage Stave on ya...
And maybe some Mulberry...
;)
-gus
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Howdy Ink,
You're about an hour from me. Not bad, but would take a little planning ahead to make it up. How often do you guys have shoots up there? I'd like to get to know more people in the primitive archery spectrum, and make more shoots, too.
Gus,
Where will you be at off the Woodlands Parkway? I am over that direction regularly for work, and live not too far from there, to boot. I'd be very appreciative of any staves or advice you'd be willing to give me. This juniper bow is the first bow I've done anything with. I am going to peel the cambium off, and I may shorten the bow up a bit at each end to give it a bit more power. I think I am a bit narrow and thin on the limbs to get much power out of it, but a bit shorter might help give it a bit more oomph. Also, I saw one fellow on PA that it looked like he did an un-backed juniper bow, but I couldn't swear to it. Do you know anything about building a bow without backing it? Does it work, is it advisable? Also, I am thinking about doing something with crepe myrtle, too. I saw some threads about that as a bow wood, too. And I guess crepe myrtle can be heat-tempered, which I guess makes it possible to build the bow green and then dry it?
Also, if you guys want, look me up on Facebook: http://facebook.com/mhscott2
Michael
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Howdy Michael,
Our new house (Temporary) is one road south of Woodlands Parkway off of Grogan Mill/Raford Sawdust, Timber Mill Road is our street.
At this point I think it's gonna be a couple weeks before I get my work area set up again.
But I should be back I'm action pretty Quick...
Good thing is, I'll have gone through all my staves by then by moving them, and we should be able to find you a nice Piece of Osage.
Juniper can go Unbacked.
But it depends A Lot on the Quality of the Stave, and Skill of the Builder.
Heat Treating is used on Seasoned, or at least Dry Wood.
Putting Heat to Green Wood is Not Advisable...
You risk inducing Cracks and Ckecks at best...
Crepe Myrtle can make a Nice Bow indeed.
It pays to choose a piece of CM that will line up with as little correction needed up front.
Or be prepared for a bit of resistance in straightening.
If you would, send me a PM and I'll send you my Cell Number.
Regards,
-gus
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Micheal, there's a shoot every month with the archery club that i'm a member in. Mostly compound shooters but there's several of us trad shooters that regularly attend. Check out the Brazos County Archery Clubs web site for more info and shoot dates.
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Hey guys, I know its been awhile for this thread, but im in the Spring Branch Houston area. Im looking to see if I can swap some labor for some knowlage in regards to bow making. Im also wondering if anyone may know where a fellow could find some stands of cane around here. I was thinking maybe along buffalo bayou. What I can offer is my skills as a painter and remodeled guy. I can do it all except major electrical and plumbing. Well, have a dry weekend fellow Houstonians.
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Hey everybody. Been off here a while. Work has been busy. Home builders are throwing houses up as fast as they can, weather permitting, and as such, I have been running my butt off fixing fences for them. LOL! Who's all ready for hunting season? If I get to bowhunt this year, it will be with my Bear Grizzly, but the way practice time has lined up (or not, actually), I may only end up rifle hunting. Not quite sure yet. How's things been for everybody else?
Ink, I almost came up to ya'll's shoot last Sunday, but as people I knew down here kept dropping out of going, I decided I wasn't interested in driving up in my Suburban by myself. Then I found out that another guy and his wife actually ended up going. :/ Oh well. When does your club start their 3D shoots up again?
peterdragon, I am up by Magnolia, and see bamboo stands on the sides of several roads up here. I don't know the specifics on cutting off the side of the road, but I would think it wouldn't be that big of a deal to harvest some of the smaller stalks for arrows. I have been considering the same thing. I think it would be nice to have bamboo shafts to shoot out of my selfbow when (if?) I ever get it finished.
Michael
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I may have to cruise those roads and see what I can find. I have been working in spring and porter allot and im in the process of tree larceny at a few of the construction sites. Im just trying to ID a few so I dont end up making tallow tree bows. Im thinking I may have a maple sapling or three and a ton of white oak. Ill keep yall posted on what I grab.
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Peterdragon, if you can find a way to make it to college station one of these days, i can put a decent osage stave in your hands. And maybe a white wood stave as well to get you started in bow building. Let me know if your interested in coming up.
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Hey Peterdragon,
I'm in Houston and I could help you identify the staves we have around here.
Cheers
Thunder
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Sorry for not getting back to you guys. Been busy. Switching jobs, Girlfriend just bought a house and to top it all off I dropped my allegedly smart phone off a 150' scaffold. Im moving up to spring mid November, and im abliged to do thanks giving with my girls family. Ill definitely. Be intouch here soon.
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For anyone interested in the area, There is a get together happening on november 7-9th about 1.5 hours from houston. Should be a good time, check it out in the events section. http://www.primitivearcher.com/smf/index.php/topic,48564.0.html
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Sorry for not getting back to you guys. Been busy. Switching jobs, Girlfriend just bought a house and to top it all off I dropped my allegedly smart phone off a 150' scaffold. Im moving up to spring mid November, and im abliged to do thanks giving with my girls family. Ill definitely. Be intouch here soon.
That would be a huge help. So far I can spot sassofrass and what I think is some type of maple and oak trees. Was thinking I would just have at one and see how it go's.